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ancianita

(36,033 posts)
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 04:36 PM Oct 2021

Malcolm Nance On the 23%'s War On Democracy

"I've been studying extensively all of the tactical activities and how all these small groups, the Oath Keepers, the Three Percenters, the Proud Boys, they were coordinating extensively throughout November and into December to bring all of their forces into the Capitol -- and what we've really been missing.

I think what the Rolling Stone article has finally given us the outlines of is the premeditated murder of the American constitutional form of government.

We have an actual command cell, a leadership organization that was reaching down organizing people from the ground up with the sole intent of carrying out what could clearly now be considered a coup d'etat. They intended to overthrow the government.


You know, November 2022 is not going to be a referendum about Joe Biden or referendum on the 1/6 insurrection.

It's going to be a referendum whether American democracy ends, whether the American experiment comes to a crashing halt.

If the Republicans take power in January 2023 and they control the House of Representative, Jason Johnson has said many times on this channel, they fully intend to impeach Joe Biden and Kamala Harris as a monthly event just for fun.

But more importantly, they will give and help Donald Trump come back into power.

Listen, they are operating on a strategy that I've written about, which I call the DARF strategy:
deny that there was ever anything to the insurrection,
attack anyone and anything that denies Donald Trump was not the president, then exact
revenge and then spread
fear.

We're on the cusp of an insurgency.
That means there may be more insurrections, many more small, mini insurrections. But that's when you take the political -- your political disagreements from the halls of power out into the streets. The Republicans have done it once. They are now building all of the pressure within their base to believe that there is a completely illegitimate United States government in power.

And when you can convince people, especially people like Madison Cawthorne, thinking that you have to go in and resolve these issues with the second amendment -- with this bizarre belief in what they think the Constitution says, because the Constitution doesn't say anything about what they did other than sedition -- then you have the basis of where you could have broad based political violence.

But they fully intend to take back power. And when they do, they will not relinquish.

We just saw it in Sudan. They're on their Twitter feeds right now wondering why we can't do in the United States what happened in Sudan yesterday, a coup d'etat."

From The ReidOut October 25 2021


If Nance is worried, I'm worried. Especially when Youngkins offers VA as the launch platform against Washington, DC.

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Malcolm Nance On the 23%'s War On Democracy (Original Post) ancianita Oct 2021 OP
I agree with all of this but kacekwl Oct 2021 #1
Sure. ancianita Oct 2021 #3
Reaganites were a backlash against wnylib Oct 2021 #4
Absolutely. The days of Lee Atwater ancianita Oct 2021 #5
I agree rockfordfile Oct 2021 #2
once they get power... Layzeebeaver Oct 2021 #6
I've read the rolling stone article, and... reACTIONary Oct 2021 #7
I hear you. it didn't. It's probably Nance's interpretation ancianita Oct 2021 #8

kacekwl

(7,016 posts)
1. I agree with all of this but
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 04:48 PM
Oct 2021

why would they bring trump back ? Why wouldn't they bring in a real evil mastermind fascist instead. If they get the house they have no use for trump.

ancianita

(36,033 posts)
3. Sure.
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 04:58 PM
Oct 2021

He's just a place holder for the real powers that will run this government, right? I get it. There can easily be someone better, smarter, more competent than Trump. Maybe that person will be the VP that takes over when Trump leaves under some pretext.

But for now? I'm pretty sure it's Trump because now he's become a symbol.

They are solidifying their "story of saving America." It's the story that started back with Reagan, with the racist roots of it existing long before Reagan, roots that moved along as "states rights," and now show up as the intellectualized "great replacement" that they want to use to win against the alleged "critical race theory" crap that they imagine, and so it's what drives them to think they are beating back some imagined hordes. Not knowing that they are the hordes.

It's a lot like how the Nazis believed.
After a war it took decades for them to recover. Some didn't, and found their way here -- to normalize and culturize in America what history has shown to be evil.

wnylib

(21,433 posts)
4. Reaganites were a backlash against
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 06:50 PM
Oct 2021

the civil rights movement. That's what he meant by "Government is the problem." Government was enforcing civil rights laws.

The ultimate insult to them was the election of a Black president.

The anti establishment comments from RWers today remind me of the counter culture anti establishment movement of the 60s and early 70s in the opposition to Vietnam and in the fights for civil rights and women's
rights. Except today's RWers take exactly the opposite position in opposing those rights.

ancianita

(36,033 posts)
5. Absolutely. The days of Lee Atwater
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 07:01 PM
Oct 2021

who formed a lobbying firm with Roger Stone, and all the "states rights" lingo he and Gingrich developed.

Racist lingo iterations go back to the days of "that peculiar institution" that the Civil War was fought to end. It's never ended.

The democratic dream has been endlessly deferred.

Layzeebeaver

(1,623 posts)
6. once they get power...
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 07:12 PM
Oct 2021

...then we are all fucked.

protests will be quashed.

The constitution will be amended.

Voting rights will be destroyed.

Women will lose control of their bodies.

The minority will rule for a generation or more.

And our society will give way to a institutional corporate-ocracy.

Vote - GOTFV everywhere!

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
7. I've read the rolling stone article, and...
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 07:24 PM
Oct 2021

... from the information it provided there is nothing in it about a "command cell" directing the insurrectionists. They were organizing a public protest event. Nothing illegal or seditious about that.

ancianita

(36,033 posts)
8. I hear you. it didn't. It's probably Nance's interpretation
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 08:14 PM
Oct 2021

of the kind of organizing that went on. A fifth participant he probably knows of, Joe Oltmann, called the room a command center, so Nance might just be putting two and two together...

There was a lot of pre Jan 6 prepping for that room's use.

Here's some info from Seth Abramson on Joe Oltmann and who he met with, the speech he gave the day before to a crowd of 25,000 by this account. You can believe that Nance knows about this stuff.

https://sethabramson.substack.com/p/breaking-news-new-member-of-trumps


I think it's why Nance says "...what the Rolling Stone article has finally given us the outlines of is ..."








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