Claire McCaskill reading Garland the riot act

[cilla4progress]

on Nicolle Wallace's show! She said every day of delay is a win for TFG and his troops.

Some of us here -though not all - have been advocating and pushing for this since 1/20/21.

This is malpractice by Garland.

[Funtatlaguy]

1. Garland is replaceable.

[cilla4progress]

2. He needs to be replaced stat

Sally Yates comes to mind.

[brush]

11. Agreed. Sally Yates would be no shrinking wall flower.

After the obvious partisanship of Barr acting as trump's WH lawyer, it's time for an AG for the people of the United States who makes fair and quick rulings and the hell where the chips fall.

[Pepsidog]

14. Or Shiff.

[brush]

17. Absolutely.

[Rebl2]

33. Would she

have to be approved by senate? If so, would there be the votes to get her approved?

[NewJeffCT]

52. Yes, and probably not

I don't think Yates or Schiff could get confirmed - moderates like Manchin and/or Sinema might buy into the inevitable media firestorm.

[Orange Buffoon]

48. Always favored Yates.

[walkingman]

3. I'll believe that when I see it. I don't think he was the best choice by any measure.

[Funtatlaguy]

4. Paging Sally Yates.

[tishaLA]

55. he was a reasonable choice based on a flawed theory

that repubs' fevers would break after tfg disappeared to FL, but if anything they've gotten worse.

[walkingman]

57. Yep, the GOP is definitely the Trump party which I find amazing and disgusting. They

have no shame.

[Trueblue1968]

7. and i think he should be removed. MAKE HILLARY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL !!

[triron]

9. By executive appt. No confirmation necessary. (Trump did it, now Biden should return the favor)

[onenote]

26. When did Trump name an Attorney General by "Executive appointment"?

Where that person wasn't already serving in government and eligible for the position under the Vacancies Act?

[SheilaAnn]

31. OMG, that would be so awesome. Heads would be exploding all over the place...Bwah! n/t

[housecat]

15. YES!!!! HILLARY!!!

[calimary]

23. Lordy, that's an OUTSTANDING idea!!!

And she’d be equally outstanding in at job.

[KS Toronado]

78. She was really mistreated by repugs over Benghazi

just to name one. Maybe she'd like to be Attorney General for a little revenge?
Maybe she could kill off the reQublicOn party?

[brooklynite]

12. How many of you have contacted the White House to express your concerns?

Or is grumbling anonymously on the internet more satisfying?

[walkingman]

13. Good point. It is easy to think that makes a difference but it doesn't. Not

say that calling or writing the WH would either. I've contacted all of my elected officials for decades and at most I get a "canned reply" and nothing changes.

[Doc Sportello]

16. You mean like grumbling anonymously on the internet about other posters?

Do you find that satisfying?

[inthewind21]

19. Touche

[Celerity]

20. lol

[brooklynite]

21. I'm not complaining about the performance of the Administration or Congress

When I do, I forego complaining here and talk to my contacts at the DNC, DCCC and DSCC.

[cilla4progress]

27. You have contacts there??

Care to share?

[brooklynite]

28. I would, but then someone would complain that I was boasting...

Suffice to say, I'm a high-dollar donor (check my FEC records if you want to) and have direct contacts with members of the DNC and the staffs of the campaign committees.

[spooky3]

40. I must not be doing the search correctly. I found myself and my small

donations in the FEC database (for the past year). But when I searched by your first and last name shown in the profile, or by your last name and either Brooklyn or New York as the location, the search came up empty.

[brooklynite]

51. Comes up when I check.

Make sure you aren't filtering for 2021-2022. I haven't contributed for this cycle.

[spooky3]

53. OK. Thanks. nt

[spooky3]

54. The filter was the problem. Thanks! And thanks for supporting Dems. nt

[Autumn]

49. I doubt that most of us have deep enough pockets to gain access to get them to listen to us. When I

have written them with my concerns I have gotten a form letter back that usually has had nothing to do with my concerns. Do they always address your concerns?

If it takes deep pockets. or as you call it "high-dollar donors" to get them to understand why we are complaining I think they do the voters a great disservice.

[MiHale]

76. How about this?...

We have made our concerns public, well here.

We do not have the contacts you do and never even come close.

Many of us here have written our representatives in D.C. and in State.
We get form letters back, at very least we know they received the letter.

So…How about you taking our concerns to your contacts? It is our best way to contact them.

Thank you for being here brooklynite, I read many of your posts and always learn something.
Thank you also for your monetary donation to Democrats.

[Carlitos Brigante]

22. .

.

[msfiddlestix]

61. yeah, we're the only people "complaining"

/sarcasm



From what I'm reading, the folks in the du community are hardly the only voices. T

here seems to be quite a clarion call shouting out loud in the Media.

By people with professional creds. Have you not read or heard them speak out in the media?

Do you think Adam Schiff is some wacko? How about Lawrence Tribe? There are a number of well known and respected professionals from the field and you don't seem to credit their opinions and their knowledge?

[Trueblue1968]

64. i just love grumbling on the internet. using my real name or anonymously !!!!!!!!!

i just love grumbling on the internet, yes i do. i just love grumbling on the internet, how about you??.

[mvd]

5. I really like Claire as a commentator

I also wonder what is going on. I just hope he’s busy building a case.

[Grasswire2]

6. the tide of public opinion is growing in frustration.

I have thought from the get-go that this was Biden's strategy -- to wait for public outcry to push adjudication in order to give himself time to stabilize the economy and fix Covid response.

If that WAS, IS, his strategy, it may have been smart. But now the time has come to hammer down. Justice must be applied.

And that also means dumping Trump holdover, Federalist Society member Christopher Wray. Today.

[wnylib]

24. Is it possible that Wray is more of a problem than Garland is?

[Rebl2]

34. That's what I think

[cilla4progress]

8. Just heard Marc Elias on there, now.

He said the best he can hope for is buy time for Democracy to right itself - for our country, our electorate, to right itself. He says Democracy won't be solved in the courts.

Mr. Elias knows whereof he speaks.

I'm struggling not to panic.

[spooky3]

41. thanks for this summary - I missed it. nt

[Vinca]

10. Claire for AG!

[SayItLoud]

18. Then there's Individual 1 . A slam dunk and still NO FRIGGIN indictment.

Don't tell me they're building a bigger case. They can indict and build bigger cases all day long. Something's rotten in NY and the DOJ.

[rickyhall]

25. 10 months and Public Enemy #1 is still At Large and Mouthing Off. What's up with that?

[bringthePaine]

29. Mueller, now Garland: WTF? Dems loaded w/ talent, but the Weenie Express rides and rides...

[Irish_Dem]

73. Right, I wonder what happens to make them flip like this?

[ananda]

30. Is Biden listening? He needs to something about this, stat.

???

[Ford_Prefect]

32. I recognize that Due Process can take a very long time but this has gone well beyond reason.

It is important to remember that both W and Trump filled many posts in the DOJ and other agencies with their own kind of conservative agents. IMO some of those may be delaying or diluting the process too. Slow walking the prosecutions, minimizing the charges, soft pedaling the pretrial treatment and the proposed marshmallow sentences sure looks like something less than full justice.

As we have seen with the FBI there are cabals of agents within the ranks who have used their positions to unethical political advantage for their favorite presidents. They remain as do those in the DOJ and elsewhere. I cannot believe they are not having an effect on this too.

I wonder if Garland, like Mueller before him, might be reading the law a bit too circumspectly?

[Arazi]

58. Garland testified last week he doesn't know if there are DOJ employees who assisted w the coup plans

That indicates there hasn't even been even a cursory examination of his own staff for subversion.

Adam Sciff is alarmed. I'm as alarmed as Schiff (who knows better than most what's percolating behind the scenes).

[Ford_Prefect]

59. My concern from some time ago is that too many of the establishment cannot comprehend

just what is happening because in their view at some point the opposition must play by the "rules". They do not seem to understand the degree of radicalization that has occurred nor how far the rot actually goes and among whom.

They seem incapable of understanding that the visible behavior of the GOP is being steered and managed by people who have absolute contempt for democratic process and the rule of law.

These people are willing and intend to destroy every institution of federal government in order to establish their absolute and permanent control of the United States. They have the money and the political means to enable their plans, along with considerable help and influence from interested parties outside the United States, among them certain Saudi, Russian, and Chinese players.

[Withywindle]

63. +1

That's what I think too. The window of opportunity to turn this beast around, if we ever really had it, is closing VERY quickly, and I just don't see the sense of urgency, or the understanding of the full scope of the problem.

[yaesu]

35. no matter when or what Garland decides be prepared for the flushed turd to tie any decision up

in court for years, that is what he does.

[monkeyman1]

37. jail & no bond - extreme flight risk !

[NurseJackie]

38. Absurd! No it's not.

This is malpractice by Garland.

Absurd! No it's not. Stop!

[ShazzieB]

43. Agreed.

Malpractice is an outrageous accusation.

We don't know if Garland is behaving appropriately, because we don't know WHAT he's doing or not doing. We don't know WHY he's doing or not doing it. We therefore don't have grounds to form an opinion, at least not yet.

I understand the frustration underlying that assertion, but frustration doesn't give anyone the right to make unfounded accusations.

I'm not defending him, for the same reason I don't think we should attacking him: insufficient evidence.

[Bobstandard]

46. Inaction is sufficient evidence

Inaction is sufficient evidence for us to form the opinion that Garland is not the AG we need at this moment.

[secondwind]

75. I'm hanging in there with you...

Am not THERE yet.

[SoCalDavidS]

39. Don't People Realize This Was By Design

Sadly, I tend to believe that this was destined to be a dog & pony show, with nobody of any consequence being held accountable.

Actions speak louder than words, and so far, actions have been pretty much non-existent.

The criminals responsible know this, which is why they are not at all concerned. The discussions on DU about TFG being charged or arrested are LAUGHABLE. As I said before, he's far more likely to get elected to another term, than he is to face charges or be taken away in handcuffs. The same goes for those closest to him, whether in Congress or not.

If you're looking for accountability, and people being arrested, you're in the wrong country. We're Pathetic, and we don't do that stuff here.

[BigmanPigman]

42. Sad but true.

[Irish_Dem]

68. I cannot argue with what you are saying. The facts seem evident.

Slap on the wrist or get our of jail cards to all.

[NurseJackie]

45. Ha!

[Mr. Ected]

47. "The wheels of justice turn slowly, but

Any damn slower and we're going to lose this country. You think we could survive 4 more years of Trump?

So yeah, lean in on your old-school adherence to the rules and protocols, because that's exactly what they expected us to do and exactly what they WANT us to do. To them, they're at war. To us, we're trusting the process. With a silent AG and time running out, damn straight I want to know if the DOJ is with us or against us on this.

[azureblue]

50. Garland - ehere's a little tip

You don't get diplomatic with a steam roller. Especially one that is headed right for you

[myohmy2]

56. absolutely...

...if 1/6 was an attempted overthrow of our government then why hasn't the political perpetrators been brought to justice, tried and imprisoned by now?

...or...

...what you're telling me is it was just a bunch of harmless Americans out having harmless fun...a prank

...the fascists aren't going away...this is the beginning, not the end...

...it's a fight for our country, democracy and way of life...but we're not winning...

...time to get serious...

...past time to get serious...

[cilla4progress]

60. Quite a divide here,

I see!

[Scrivener7]

67. I'm really only seeing two or three of the "You don't understand how things work, what have YOU done

to help Merrick Garland, we will get an answer in a few years" muttonheads in this thread, though.

Most people seem to see that this situation is dire and needs to be addressed, regardless of historical protocols.

My favorite was the one who told me I didn't have the right to question what was being done until I staged a hunger strike, or a protest that caused me to lose my job and my home.

Flawless logic.

[Scrivener7]

65. When we are discussing a coup attempt that came within a hair's breadth of the murders of our

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elected representatives, that aimed to overthrow our electoral rights and apparently nearly succeeded, that was coordinated at the highest levels of government and that could have ended our Democracy...

... when you are talking about that kind of thing, you need to speed up the due process. A lot.

It takes time! We don't know! Blah blah blah!" is fine if you are talking about one person getting justice.

A little extra effort needs to go into the prosecution of those who planned to overthrow the government. If the work is time consuming and demanding, hire more people.

This is ridiculous.

[brewens]

69. No more kumbaya. If heads don't roll and TFG and his collaborators aren't locked up,

I'll say fuck it. I can just be a middle aged white dude in Idaho, and nothing the RW or SCOTUS does will really screw me.

[brooklynite]

70. No, she wasn't.

The analogy fails, because "Reading the Riot Act" meant notifying rioters that they are in violation of the law, and that action will be taken against them if they don't disperse. What action is she (or anyone else) proposing against Garland.

[Scrivener7]

71. Lol!

[cilla4progress]

81. Did not place it in quotes.

Used it colloquially.

[Paladin]

72. Get it done, Mr. Garland. The pressure's not going away. (nt)

[YoshidaYui]

74. If Trump gets away scott free from all his crimes

and is allowed to run and win re election I will scream!! Cause once he is installed as President He will never step down and be President for Life and Democracy will be dead, and we will find out what its like to live under a dictatorship, 700,000 dead will just be
the beginning!!

[George II]

77. As the old saying goes, "haste makes waste". Not having solid airtight cases risks....

....risks the possibility of a case being tossed out on technicalities or risks it being lost because of inferior evidence.

Senator McCaskill and all who are bashing AG Garland have absolutely no idea how far in his investigation or how close to being presented he is.

No decent AG would tip off to the press the current status of any case until it's ready for prosecution.

AGs don't hold daily press briefings or issue status reports of criminal investigations.

[Arazi]

82. The Stormy Daniel's case is finished. Just waiting for Individual #1 to be arrested

Mueller outlined 10 charges the DOJ could bring.

Now.

First that matter why isn't the Mueller report unredacted by now? 🤔

[Sparkly]

79. The Republicans are keeping him busy with the "Yell at the AG" Show.

Now on CSpan-3.

[JudyM]

80. I was biting my tongue, giving him the benefit of the doubt

till today when I saw his reaction to getting pounded. He doesn’t seem like he has the fire in him that’s necessary to aggressively right this ship.

[George II]

83. President Biden thinks he does. That's good enough for me.

[Texaswitchy]

84. Garland was to old for the job.

I am a year younger.

There are some jobs I am not able to do.

He was picked because of the supreme court.

We needed someone younger and tougher.

Not afraid to mix it up.

[cilla4progress]

85. ...

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