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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,860 posts)
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 08:54 PM Oct 2021

Inexperienced 'Rust' Armorer Enraged Nicolas Cage on Previous Film: 'You Just Blew My F-ing Eardrums

Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, the 24-year-old armorer who handled weapons on the set of Alec Baldwin’s “Rust,” was the subject of numerous complaints on her previous film just two months earlier after she discharged weapons without warning and infuriated star Nicolas Cage, a crew member told TheWrap.

Stu Brumbaugh, who served as key grip on the Cage Western “The Old Way” this summer, told TheWrap that Gutierrez upset both Cage and other crew members on the Montana production by failing to follow basic gun safety protocols like announcing the arrival and usage of weapons onto the set.

After firing a gun near the cast and crew for a second time in three days without warning, Brumbaugh said that Cage yelled at her, “Make an announcement, you just blew my f—ing eardrums out!” before walking off set in a rage. “I told the AD, ‘She needs to be let go,’” Brumbaugh, adding, “After the second round I was pissed off. We were moving too fast. She’s a rookie.”

It was only after alerting his superiors that the production needed a more experienced armorer who did not make these kinds of basic safety mistakes that he learned it was Gutierrez’s very first movie. While her LinkedIn profile bills her as a videographer whose experience as an armorer dates to March 2021, she is the daughter of Thell Reed, a weapons expert and fast-draw exhibition shooter who is well known in Hollywood and has previously worked with actors like Brad Pitt.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/inexperienced-rust-armorer-enraged-nicolas-222821834.html

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Inexperienced 'Rust' Armorer Enraged Nicolas Cage on Previous Film: 'You Just Blew My F-ing Eardrums (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2021 OP
Do armorers have licenses? SheltieLover Oct 2021 #1
She must have been cheap, sadly this company was doing things on the cheap and knew Eliot Rosewater Oct 2021 #2
But are they required to have a license SheltieLover Oct 2021 #4
I know they can be union or non union. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #6
Yes, I'd read union workers walked off the job for unsafe conditions days before this tragedy SheltieLover Oct 2021 #10
Yep. Going to be many witnesses testifying about unsafe conditions. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #12
I wonder who is responsible for hiring & ensuring safety? SheltieLover Oct 2021 #13
Attorney on TV said producers have responsibility. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #14
Thx! SheltieLover Oct 2021 #15
Isn't Baldwin the (or an) Executive Producer? Marcuse Oct 2021 #17
He is a producer of some kind. Attorney on TV said he is liable in terms of civil suit. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #18
First Assistant Director Sgent Oct 2021 #24
I doubt it, but I will try and find out. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2021 #16
Like anything else in this country: Act_of_Reparation Oct 2021 #22
It appears they were on a very tight budget and didn't ask too many questions? Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #3
Not a good idea, obviously. SheltieLover Oct 2021 #5
Right, big mistake. Yes there will be civil liability. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #9
I would think there would be! SheltieLover Oct 2021 #11
Definitely a person of interest. Sneederbunk Oct 2021 #7
Here comes the bus, Ms. Gutierrez-Reed, and you're going under it. maxsolomon Oct 2021 #8
yes... Demovictory9 Oct 2021 #29
There's Two Major Glaring Violations WHITT Oct 2021 #19
I'm on the same page Stinky The Clown Oct 2021 #21
As I understand it, she did not hand the gun to Baldwin. Her boss did. Stinky The Clown Oct 2021 #20
The AD isn't her boss. The property master might technically be... Azathoth Oct 2021 #23
First AD Sgent Oct 2021 #25
No, he likely can't fire her. And he's not her boss. Azathoth Oct 2021 #27
Who loaded the gun? Sneederbunk Oct 2021 #26
That, as they say, ... Straw Man Oct 2021 #30
Nepotism ... she must have got the job due to her father Raine Oct 2021 #28

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
2. She must have been cheap, sadly this company was doing things on the cheap and knew
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 08:59 PM
Oct 2021

they were, they are liable for civil damages big time.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
4. But are they required to have a license
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 09:02 PM
Oct 2021

To handle weapons on sets, if you know?

I know nothing about the film industry.

Irish_Dem

(46,797 posts)
6. I know they can be union or non union.
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 09:06 PM
Oct 2021

Don't know about the license, but they should be required to have a license.

Hi Sheltie!

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
24. First Assistant Director
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 11:35 PM
Oct 2021

is directly in charge of safety and of choosing the armorer. S/He reports to the Director, who reports to the producers. I'm guessing the armorer in question was a union member due to her background*, although she may have been getting scale wages.

*her father is a longtime Hollywood armorer and special effects person and union member.

maxsolomon

(33,279 posts)
8. Here comes the bus, Ms. Gutierrez-Reed, and you're going under it.
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 09:06 PM
Oct 2021

It sounds like the entire set was seat-of-the-pants.

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
19. There's Two Major Glaring Violations
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 10:12 PM
Oct 2021

of protocol, so far.

1) You cannot bring live rounds onto a film set. Who brought them, and why?

2) The armorer is supposed to have any firearms in a locked case, only to be removed to load with blanks, and then be handed directly to the actor, and after the director yells 'cut', the actor hands the firearm back to the armorer, who puts it back in the case and locks it.

What the hell was the assistant director doing handling the firearm, and what was he doing handing it to the actor?

Stinky The Clown

(67,777 posts)
21. I'm on the same page
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 10:26 PM
Oct 2021

She may have been the armorer, and woefully reckless and inexperienced and whatever else they want to say, but as to the tragic incident, at this point it seems she was just a witness.

Stinky The Clown

(67,777 posts)
20. As I understand it, she did not hand the gun to Baldwin. Her boss did.
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 10:23 PM
Oct 2021

From what I've read, she essentially had nothing to do with this. The Assistant Director, Dave Hall, who is her boss, called "Cold Gun" handed the gun to Baldwin. Hannah Gutierrez-Reed should have been the one, but she wasn't.

Not sure of what wrong she could be guilty.

Azathoth

(4,607 posts)
23. The AD isn't her boss. The property master might technically be...
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 11:28 PM
Oct 2021

But the armorer is called the weapons master for a reason. She controls all weapons on set, and is the one ultimately responsible for their custody, care, and safety procedures. That is her entire job.

Saying she had nothing to do with this is like saying a pilot has nothing to do with a plane crashing because he let the airline's marketing director take the controls.

She is almost certainly guilty of manslaughter, and the AD is likely in the same boat.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
25. First AD
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 11:37 PM
Oct 2021

has the power to hire and fire her. He shouldn't interfere with her duties, but he is in charge of all safety issues on the set (not just firearms).

Azathoth

(4,607 posts)
27. No, he likely can't fire her. And he's not her boss.
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 12:13 AM
Oct 2021

The producers and their teams are the ones who contract and fire important people. They're the officers, the AD is an NCO.

The 1st AD is a coordinator. He's responsible for *coordinating* the shooting schedule, safety meetings, getting the production crew organized, etc. A hospital administrator can coordinate and schedule surgeons, doctors, etc., but he can't walk into an operating room and take over a surgery. Likewise, an AD can run daily safety meetings, maintain call sheets and tell everyone when they have to be on set and what they need to be doing, but he can't hop in and fly the helicopter for a scene, or push the armorer out of the way and manage the guns on set.

Straw Man

(6,622 posts)
30. That, as they say, ...
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 01:46 AM
Oct 2021
Who loaded the gun?

... is the question. I'll bet whoever it is is praying that they never find out.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
28. Nepotism ... she must have got the job due to her father
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 12:23 AM
Oct 2021

pulling strings for her. This is what happens when you're hired because of who you're related to instead of what you know and your experience.

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