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Put guards at the door and if you do not have a child in the school board area.. then you do not get in.. if you pay taxes in that school board district and need to address the board about taxes.. then let that person in.. but outsiders have no business messing in the working of a local school board..
LakeArenal
(28,729 posts)Peacetrain
(22,836 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)in school) that are most vocal about what is going on.
Peacetrain
(22,836 posts)and if the rest of the populace in that area does not stand up to them and vote in rules to address a board by.. then you are going to have a mess.. but a lot of these crazies coming into school boards are not even in the districts.. you get loud and people step back.. sometimes you have to push back if you want to keep any semblance of order.. if they are in the district, but are raucous and interrupt others then bar them from the meetings..
At some point the adults have to take back control.. and it is not always easy
hlthe2b
(101,729 posts)every bit as much about the schools that produce our future, as those who have children in those schools--as do teachers and staff who may not have children in school as well. Hell, I probably spent more time researching candidates for the upcoming District school board election this year than almost any other issue.
The point is to keep outside organized trouble-makers out. Not taxpayers in the district.
Peacetrain
(22,836 posts)what do you do then? I think everyone attending a meeting has a right to hear everyone. But no one individual or group even if they live in that area have the right to stop others from participating..
hlthe2b
(101,729 posts)I might add that it appears to be parents causing the problems among those living in the district (but not among outsiders coming to stir up problems--thus the need for proof of residency). This idea that only parents care about our kids and their education is partially what has gotten us into these problems in the first place. Your fellow, but deluded parents are largely troublemakers in most settings across the country. You should welcome the informed and thoughtful participants who actually want to help the cause--not single them out for exclusion. Why you would single them out with no evidence they are trouble makers confuses me. Talk about biting off one's nose to spite their face...
Peacetrain
(22,836 posts)and threatening school board members volunteers etc.. follow them home .. I am so over it..and we need to restore some order or our society will cease to exist..
hlthe2b
(101,729 posts)And voters need to research who they are putting in the office of Sheriff, District Attorney, Voter Registrar, Chief of Police, elected judges, and School Boards/Superintendents. The days of the single issue or candidate voting should have been gone decades ago. Now it is critical to inform ourselves (and sadly, given the demise of local reporting, we need local newspapers and media to do it).
Peacetrain
(22,836 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Buh-byyyyeeee!
onethatcares
(16,133 posts)to take my yard clippings to the city landfill. It's an easy enough solution.
The Bundy's got away with drawing down on federal agents, they shouldn't receive a bit of government
assistance for crop damage, herd damage, water mitigation or anything that pertains to "One out of many">
Peacetrain
(22,836 posts)and leave anything off I have to prove I live in that area..
3Hotdogs
(12,209 posts)1st Amendment
Anyone can go to ANY public meeting.
Hekate
(90,192 posts)They can be ejected if they do. The First Amendment is NOT without limitations or consequences.
I served on several County commissions over 20 years, and was Chair on one of them for 7+ years. As part of that and part of other activities in the County I also spoke before the Board of Supervisors numerous times.
Even in fairly civil times, there were and are rules that could be invoked to ensure things stayed civil. Trump and his thugs caught public servants off guard and made sure they stayed off-balance.
It is way past time to protect our public servants and public spaces.
3Hotdogs
(12,209 posts)It proposes denying admission to public meetings. That is unconstitutional.
Peacetrain
(22,836 posts)Show me where the constitution says someone has the right to deny others to participate by jeering or follow them home and threaten their physical safety or that of their families.. hmmph
3Hotdogs
(12,209 posts)No one is allowed to disrupt.
Everyone is allowed into a public meeting until they disrupt.
The OP wants to prevent people from entering the meeting. That is illegal prior restraint.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)into a possibly existential problem. In many areas, public servants may be forced by threats of violence against themselves and their families to withdraw from office, leaving vacancies for RW extremists to take over local government.
This is what happened in nations that fell to the Nazis 90 years ago. With local governments, including police departments, largely taken over, mobs were emboldened and empowered to attack people they didn't like in the streets and even in their homes.
As we now know they've become not just capable of that, but many even eager. We eat children's faces, after all.
Hekate
(90,192 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I always knew it could happen here, just never thought it could. And now the threat is accelerating dreadfully. It wasn't like this even a year ago.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,145 posts)LaMouffette
(2,013 posts)The Trump humpers have no respect for the rule of law, as evidenced by January 6th. They are so brazen now that they would unleash all kinds of abuse on a couple of security guards or even police officers, if not actual violence.
Why not post some truly scary, Danny-Trejo-fierce, motorcycle gang members at the door instead, people who would have no compunctions about punching these idiots' lights out? Watch the cowards turn tail and run.
And this, coming from a pacifist! I tell you, the right is radicalizing me!
LaMouffette
(2,013 posts)Take it to Zoom.
hardluck
(634 posts)LiberatedUSA
(1,666 posts)as a solution to mass shooting was generally people felt that was a fubar idea. Seems a little cold in the year for flip flops.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)at any individual school. We have something like 150,000 elementary, middle and high schools.
The other IS HAPPENING NOW around the nation, with real promise of getting much worse.
old guy
(3,281 posts)to limit and even suspend public comment at those meetings. It is never popular but it is within their power.
Dr. Strange
(25,898 posts)ThoughtCriminal
(14,011 posts)with the most gawd-awful, boring stuff that they have to deal with and then debate that stuff to death until the ones with the MAGA hats decide they have had enough and leave.
Nothing works like a 40-minute discussion about re-painting playground equipment for thinning out the crowd.
I've been to a few school board meetings and would either chew my arm off or fake my own death to get out of there.