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A short while ago the House passed the "Confidentiality Opportunities for Peer Support.... (Original Post) George II Oct 2021 OP
K&R! SheltieLover Oct 2021 #1
What Does The Act Involve? Me. Oct 2021 #2
Here's a link to the text. As Congressional bills go, it's relatively short: George II Oct 2021 #3
Can You Break IT Down To 2 Sentences Or Less Me. Oct 2021 #4
I probably wouldn't do it justice. Here's a the short title: George II Oct 2021 #5
here is the whole thing, its not that long bottomofthehill Oct 2021 #33
To make Federal law enforcement officer peer support communications confidential. elleng Oct 2021 #6
Oooooohhh...so that's why the OP didn't want to say it. ret5hd Oct 2021 #7
WHAT???? George II Oct 2021 #23
Wait...what? You think keeping counseling confidential is a bad thing? lapucelle Oct 2021 #50
None so blind...well, you know how it ends. ret5hd Oct 2021 #51
Not "seeing" a far-fetched conspiracy theory as the impetus for this legislation lapucelle Oct 2021 #53
From a quick read it looks to provide confidentiality Torchlight Oct 2021 #8
Thank You, Got It, Agree Me. Oct 2021 #9
From a quick read it looks to provide confidentiality ret5hd Oct 2021 #10
I guess we quickly read different meanings. Torchlight Oct 2021 #11
Well, as law enforcement is deified in this country... ret5hd Oct 2021 #12
It applies only to federal law enforcement. Torchlight Oct 2021 #13
Yeah...I've used that excuse before myself... ret5hd Oct 2021 #14
Not an excuse, just an admission of my fallibility. Torchlight Oct 2021 #21
I read it as it would provide confidentiality for anything an officer said to his therapist.... George II Oct 2021 #15
Peer. Define peer (in this context) ret5hd Oct 2021 #17
I presume it refers to group therapy, during with others in the group are peers. George II Oct 2021 #20
Presume. ret5hd Oct 2021 #22
Why not call the author of the bill and ask her instead of veiled accusations about me? Even.... George II Oct 2021 #26
It's defined, along with its exceptions, in the bill. Torchlight Oct 2021 #25
pretty tight definition, from the Act bottomofthehill Oct 2021 #27
The legislation defines the term in context. lapucelle Oct 2021 #54
And don't therapists etc already enjoy confidentiality? ret5hd Oct 2021 #19
Again, call the author of the bill or your representative (assuming you're not from any.... George II Oct 2021 #45
That's a wrong reading. Those conversations are already protected. Politicub Oct 2021 #44
Exactly! Amazingly obvious. ret5hd Oct 2021 #46
Please read the bill and the definitions within the bill. Thanks! George II Oct 2021 #49
What's an RA? A resident advisor? lapucelle Oct 2021 #55
Yes... Peer counseling isn't something that requires rigorous training Politicub Oct 2021 #63
Neither a quick nor a close reading of the bill supports that claim. lapucelle Oct 2021 #52
"presto...anything one cop says to another cop is confidential" ForgedCrank Oct 2021 #59
geez i tried to read it and its all blah blah... samnsara Oct 2021 #47
Exactly opposite..."peers" will be shielded... ret5hd Oct 2021 #58
I see Bowman didn't Cha Oct 2021 #16
Peer. Define peer in this context. ret5hd Oct 2021 #24
here it is bottomofthehill Oct 2021 #28
Yep..."I just shot this guy...can we talk in private?" ret5hd Oct 2021 #29
its 2 pages long, give it a read. bottomofthehill Oct 2021 #32
Are you serious? You think that's what this bill is all about? Have you read the bill? George II Oct 2021 #34
"Sorry, your honor. I can't discuss what we conversed about... ret5hd Oct 2021 #36
Except that statement is not made in the course of a peer support counseling session. TexasTowelie Oct 2021 #60
If the peer is "certified", how soon may a "session" begin? ret5hd Oct 2021 #61
It appears that you have ignored the text of this legislation during all of your replies. TexasTowelie Oct 2021 #62
K&R LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2021 #18
We need a new thoroughly bulletproof constitution, been obvious. Brainfodder Oct 2021 #30
there is a logical reason this is for Federal Law ENforcement bottomofthehill Oct 2021 #31
Precisely. George II Oct 2021 #35
Then get a therapist...already confidential. ret5hd Oct 2021 #37
Obviously you disagree with 99.3% of those who voted for the bill. I trust their judgement. George II Oct 2021 #38
And I have pointed to flaws that you didn't consider. ret5hd Oct 2021 #39
again, got to guess you did not actually read it bottomofthehill Oct 2021 #40
A "peer support specialist" is his Buddy. ret5hd Oct 2021 #41
You need to get busy sarisataka Oct 2021 #42
You've pointed to what you perceive as flaws. The fact is, with or without this bill, anyone who... George II Oct 2021 #43
You haven't pointed out any flaws. N/T lapucelle Oct 2021 #56
Well, "features" then. ret5hd Oct 2021 #57
why dont they just install a confessional booth? geez... samnsara Oct 2021 #48

George II

(67,782 posts)
3. Here's a link to the text. As Congressional bills go, it's relatively short:
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 03:35 PM
Oct 2021
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/1502/text

For the life of me I don't understand why anyone would vote against it. Obviously 99.3% of those who voted agree with me.

George II

(67,782 posts)
5. I probably wouldn't do it justice. Here's a the short title:
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 03:48 PM
Oct 2021
This Act may be cited as the “Confidentiality Opportunities for Peer Support Counseling Act” or the “COPS Counseling Act”.


The bill passed the Senate by Unanimous Consent in June.

bottomofthehill

(8,329 posts)
33. here is the whole thing, its not that long
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 05:21 PM
Oct 2021

117th CONGRESS
1st Session
S. 1502
AN ACT

To make Federal law enforcement officer peer support communications confidential, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. Short title.

This Act may be cited as the “Confidentiality Opportunities for Peer Support Counseling Act” or the “COPS Counseling Act”.

SEC. 2. Confidentiality of peer support communications.

(a) Definitions.—In this section:

(1) LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY.—The term “law enforcement agency” means a Federal agency that employs a law enforcement officer.

(2) LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.—The term “law enforcement officer” has the meaning given the term “Federal law enforcement officer” in section 115 of title 18, United States Code.

(3) PEER SUPPORT COMMUNICATION.—The term “peer support communication” includes—

(A) an oral or written communication made in the course of a peer support counseling session;

(B) a note or report arising out of a peer support counseling session;

(C) a record of a peer support counseling session; or

(D) with respect to a communication made by a peer support participant in the course of a peer support counseling session, another communication, regarding the first communication, that is made between a peer support specialist and—

(i) another peer support specialist;

(ii) a staff member of a peer support counseling program; or

(iii) a supervisor of the peer support specialist.

(4) PEER SUPPORT COUNSELING PROGRAM.—The term “peer support counseling program” means a program provided by a law enforcement agency that provides counseling services from a peer support specialist to a law enforcement officer of the agency.

(5) PEER SUPPORT COUNSELING SESSION.—The term “peer support counseling session” means any counseling formally provided through a peer support counseling program between a peer support specialist and 1 or more law enforcement officers.

(6) PEER SUPPORT PARTICIPANT.—The term “peer support participant” means a law enforcement officer who receives counseling services from a peer support specialist.

(7) PEER SUPPORT SPECIALIST.—The term “peer support specialist” means a law enforcement officer who—

(A) has received training in—

(i) peer support counseling; and

(ii) providing emotional and moral support to law enforcement officers who have been involved in or exposed to an emotionally traumatic experience in the course of employment; and

(B) is designated by a law enforcement agency to provide the services described in subparagraph (A).

(b) Prohibition.—Except as provided in subsection (c), a peer support specialist or a peer support participant may not disclose the contents of a peer support communication to an individual who was not a party to the peer support communication.

(c) Exceptions.—Subsection (b) shall not apply to a peer support communication if—

(1) the peer support communication contains—

(A) an explicit threat of suicide by an individual in which the individual—

(i) shares—

(I) an intent to die by suicide; and

(II) a plan for a suicide attempt or the means by which the individual plans to carry out a suicide attempt; and

(ii) does not solely share that the individual is experiencing suicidal thoughts;

(B) an explicit threat by an individual of imminent and serious physical bodily harm or death to another individual;

(C) information—

(i) relating to the abuse or neglect of—

(I) a child; or

(II) an older or vulnerable individual; or

(ii) that is required by law to be reported; or

(D) an admission of criminal conduct;

(2) the disclosure is permitted by each peer support participant who was a party to, as applicable—

(A) the peer support communication;

(B) the peer support counseling session out of which the peer support communication arose;

(C) the peer support counseling session of which the peer support communication is a record; or

(D) the communication made in the course of a peer support counseling session that the peer support communication is regarding;

(3) a court of competent jurisdiction issues an order or subpoena requiring the disclosure of the peer support communication; or

(4) the peer support communication contains information that is required by law to be disclosed.

(d) Rule of construction.—Nothing in subsection (b) shall be construed to prohibit the disclosure of—

(1) an observation made by a law enforcement officer of a peer support participant outside of a peer support counseling session; or

(2) knowledge of a law enforcement officer about a peer support participant not gained from a peer support communication.

(e) Disclosure of rights.—Before the initial peer support counseling session of a peer support participant, a peer support specialist shall inform the peer support participant in writing of the confidentiality requirement under subsection (b) and the exceptions to the requirement under subsection (c).

SEC. 3. Best practices and support.

(a) Definitions.—In this section:

(1) FIRST RESPONDER.—The term “first responder” has the meaning given the term “public safety officer” in section 1204 of title I of the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968 (34 U.S.C. 10284).

(2) FIRST RESPONDER AGENCY.—The term “first responder agency” means a Federal, State, local, or Tribal agency that employs or otherwise engages the services of a first responder.

(3) PEER SUPPORT COUNSELING PROGRAM.—The term “peer support counseling program” means a program provided by a first responder agency that provides counseling services from a peer support specialist to a first responder of the first responder agency.

(4) PEER SUPPORT PARTICIPANT.—The term “peer support participant” means a first responder who receives counseling services from a peer support specialist.

(5) PEER SUPPORT SPECIALIST.—The term “peer support specialist” means a first responder who—

(A) has received training in—

(i) peer support counseling; and

(ii) providing emotional and moral support to first responders who have been involved in or exposed to an emotionally traumatic experience in the course of the duties of those first responders; and

(B) is designated by a first responder agency to provide the services described in subparagraph (A).

(b) Report on best practices.—Not later than 2 years after the date of enactment of this Act, the Attorney General, in coordination with the Secretary of Health and Human Services, shall develop a report on best practices and professional standards for peer support counseling programs for first responder agencies that includes—

(1) advice on—

(A) establishing and operating peer support counseling programs; and

(B) training and certifying peer support specialists;

(2) a code of ethics for peer support specialists;

(3) recommendations for continuing education for peer support specialists;

(4) advice on disclosing to first responders any confidentiality rights of peer support participants; and

(5) information on—

(A) the different types of peer support counseling programs in use by first responder agencies;

(B) any differences in peer support counseling programs offered across categories of first responders; and

(C) the important role senior first responders play in supporting access to mental health resources.

(c) Implementation.—The Attorney General shall support and encourage the implementation of peer support counseling programs in first responder agencies by—

(1) making the report developed under subsection (b) publicly available on the website of the Department of Justice; and

(2) providing a list of peer support specialist training programs on the website of the Department of Justice.

SEC. 4. Sense of Congress.

It is the sense of Congress that Federal, State, local, and Tribal police officers, sheriffs, and other law enforcement officers across the United States who serve with valor, dignity, and integrity deserve the gratitude and respect of Congress.

Passed the Senate June 7, 2021.
Attest:

lapucelle

(18,250 posts)
53. Not "seeing" a far-fetched conspiracy theory as the impetus for this legislation
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 09:19 PM
Oct 2021

is most likely an indication of reasonabilty.

Torchlight

(3,327 posts)
8. From a quick read it looks to provide confidentiality
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 03:53 PM
Oct 2021

to federal law enforcement officers who use counseling services (which I'm guessing means mental or emotional therapy or some-such).

Me.

(35,454 posts)
9. Thank You, Got It, Agree
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 03:59 PM
Oct 2021

they certainly go roundabout to say what you just did...in other words a 1000 to 10

ret5hd

(20,491 posts)
10. From a quick read it looks to provide confidentiality
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 04:22 PM
Oct 2021

to anything a cop says to another cop…as long as that other cop is certified as a counselor.

Every cop gets certified, then presto…anything one cop says to another cop is confidential. Sorry, we can’t release those body cam recordings…they’re confidential.

Torchlight

(3,327 posts)
11. I guess we quickly read different meanings.
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 04:26 PM
Oct 2021

As I saw the term Peer Counseling Session more strictly defined than just a conversation between two cops.

ret5hd

(20,491 posts)
12. Well, as law enforcement is deified in this country...
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 04:31 PM
Oct 2021

I am all but positive that one of us will have the chance to tell the other “I told ya’ so!”

Torchlight

(3,327 posts)
13. It applies only to federal law enforcement.
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 04:33 PM
Oct 2021

and in a day or two, I'll all but forget every conversation I've had today, real and imagined, long before the chance arrives.

Torchlight

(3,327 posts)
21. Not an excuse, just an admission of my fallibility.
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 04:46 PM
Oct 2021

and that long before the suns sets today, different things will occupy my brain and push this one out.

George II

(67,782 posts)
15. I read it as it would provide confidentiality for anything an officer said to his therapist....
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 04:41 PM
Oct 2021

...or counselor.

George II

(67,782 posts)
26. Why not call the author of the bill and ask her instead of veiled accusations about me? Even....
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 04:51 PM
Oct 2021

....better you can call your representative or either of your two Senators who, unless you live in NY-14, MI-13, or MO-1, voted for it, to explain it to you. Even if you live in one of those three districts, both of your Senators voted for it so they can explain what the bill is about and why they voted for it.

Torchlight

(3,327 posts)
25. It's defined, along with its exceptions, in the bill.
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 04:49 PM
Oct 2021
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/1502/text

The term “peer support specialist” means a law enforcement officer who—

(A) has received training in—

(i) peer support counseling; and

(ii) providing emotional and moral support to law enforcement officers who have been involved in or exposed to an emotionally traumatic experience in the course of employment; and

(B) is designated by a law enforcement agency to provide the services described in subparagraph (A).

bottomofthehill

(8,329 posts)
27. pretty tight definition, from the Act
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 04:56 PM
Oct 2021

COMMUNICATION.—The term “peer support communication” includes—

(A) an oral or written communication made in the course of a peer support counseling session;

(B) a note or report arising out of a peer support counseling session;

(C) a record of a peer support counseling session; or

(D) with respect to a communication made by a peer support participant in the course of a peer support counseling session, another communication, regarding the first communication, that is made between a peer support specialist and—

(i) another peer support specialist;

(ii) a staff member of a peer support counseling program; or

(iii) a supervisor of the peer support specialist.

(4) PEER SUPPORT COUNSELING PROGRAM.—The term “peer support counseling program” means a program provided by a law enforcement agency that provides counseling services from a peer support specialist to a law enforcement officer of the agency.

(5) PEER SUPPORT COUNSELING SESSION.—The term “peer support counseling session” means any counseling formally provided through a peer support counseling program between a peer support specialist and 1 or more law enforcement officers.

(6) PEER SUPPORT PARTICIPANT.—The term “peer support participant” means a law enforcement officer who receives counseling services from a peer support specialist.

(7) PEER SUPPORT SPECIALIST.—The term “peer support specialist” means a law enforcement officer who—

(A) has received training in—

(i) peer support counseling; and

(ii) providing emotional and moral support to law enforcement officers who have been involved in or exposed to an emotionally traumatic experience in the course of employment; and

lapucelle

(18,250 posts)
54. The legislation defines the term in context.
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 09:29 PM
Oct 2021
PEER SUPPORT SPECIALIST.—The term ‘‘peer support specialist’’ means a law enforcement officer who—

(A) has received training in—
(i) peer support counseling; and
(ii) providing emotional and moral support to law enforcement officers who have been involved in or exposed to an emotionally traumatic experience in the course of employment; and

(B) is designated by a law enforcement agency to provide the services described in sub- paragraph (A).


https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/1502/text

Did you miss that in your quick read?

George II

(67,782 posts)
45. Again, call the author of the bill or your representative (assuming you're not from any....
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 06:08 PM
Oct 2021

...of the three districts represented by the three who voted against it) or either of your two Senators, who DID vote for it, and ask them to explain the bill and why it's good.

It is obvious that anything I do to try to explain it won't be acceptable.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
44. That's a wrong reading. Those conversations are already protected.
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 06:02 PM
Oct 2021

This is peer-to-peer counseling… something I was “certified” to facilitate as an RA thirty years ago. It was a one-hour class or something along those lines.

In other words, it’s a way to shield communications under the guise of peer counseling.

lapucelle

(18,250 posts)
55. What's an RA? A resident advisor?
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 09:36 PM
Oct 2021

That's an entirely different situation, and things have probably changed in the past 30 years.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
63. Yes... Peer counseling isn't something that requires rigorous training
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 11:21 AM
Oct 2021

like a therapist.

My RA example was a way to say that peer counseling certification can mean just about anything. If you read the law closely, you’ll see it is a long-winded way of saying that peer counseling isn’t therapy.

This law is a cloak for a subset of law-enforcement conversations.

lapucelle

(18,250 posts)
52. Neither a quick nor a close reading of the bill supports that claim.
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 09:09 PM
Oct 2021
(4) PEER SUPPORT COUNSELING PROGRAM.—The term “peer support counseling program” means a program provided by a law enforcement agency that provides counseling services from a peer support specialist to a law enforcement officer of the agency.

(5) PEER SUPPORT COUNSELING SESSION.—The term “peer support counseling session” means any counseling formally provided through a peer support counseling program between a peer support specialist and 1 or more law enforcement officers.


Why would a cop have his body cam on during a formal counseling session with specialists provided by a law enforcement agency?

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/1502/text

ForgedCrank

(1,779 posts)
59. "presto...anything one cop says to another cop is confidential"
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 10:02 PM
Oct 2021

Not true. If you read the thing, it has very specific carve-outs for the stuff you are worried about.

samnsara

(17,616 posts)
47. geez i tried to read it and its all blah blah...
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 06:22 PM
Oct 2021

..are peers to become mandated reporters or what?

ret5hd

(20,491 posts)
58. Exactly opposite..."peers" will be shielded...
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 09:49 PM
Oct 2021

from being questioned about any admissions/discussions that a guilty cohort may make.

Cha

(297,143 posts)
16. I see Bowman didn't
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 04:41 PM
Oct 2021

go with the Squad's "Nays" again.

And why shouldn't federal law enforcement officers, who use counseling, have Confidentiality?

bottomofthehill

(8,329 posts)
28. here it is
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 04:57 PM
Oct 2021

COMMUNICATION.—The term “peer support communication” includes—

(A) an oral or written communication made in the course of a peer support counseling session;

(B) a note or report arising out of a peer support counseling session;

(C) a record of a peer support counseling session; or

(D) with respect to a communication made by a peer support participant in the course of a peer support counseling session, another communication, regarding the first communication, that is made between a peer support specialist and—

(i) another peer support specialist;

(ii) a staff member of a peer support counseling program; or

(iii) a supervisor of the peer support specialist.

(4) PEER SUPPORT COUNSELING PROGRAM.—The term “peer support counseling program” means a program provided by a law enforcement agency that provides counseling services from a peer support specialist to a law enforcement officer of the agency.

(5) PEER SUPPORT COUNSELING SESSION.—The term “peer support counseling session” means any counseling formally provided through a peer support counseling program between a peer support specialist and 1 or more law enforcement officers.

(6) PEER SUPPORT PARTICIPANT.—The term “peer support participant” means a law enforcement officer who receives counseling services from a peer support specialist.

(7) PEER SUPPORT SPECIALIST.—The term “peer support specialist” means a law enforcement officer who—

(A) has received training in—

(i) peer support counseling; and

(ii) providing emotional and moral support to law enforcement officers who have been involved in or exposed to an emotionally traumatic experience in the course of employment; and

bottomofthehill

(8,329 posts)
32. its 2 pages long, give it a read.
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 05:20 PM
Oct 2021

from another section
(b) Prohibition.—Except as provided in subsection (c), a peer support specialist or a peer support participant may not disclose the contents of a peer support communication to an individual who was not a party to the peer support communication.

(c) Exceptions.—Subsection (b) shall not apply to a peer support communication if—

(1) the peer support communication contains—

(A) an explicit threat of suicide by an individual in which the individual—

(i) shares—

(I) an intent to die by suicide; and

(II) a plan for a suicide attempt or the means by which the individual plans to carry out a suicide attempt; and

(ii) does not solely share that the individual is experiencing suicidal thoughts;

(B) an explicit threat by an individual of imminent and serious physical bodily harm or death to another individual;

(C) information—

(i) relating to the abuse or neglect of—

(I) a child; or

(II) an older or vulnerable individual; or

(ii) that is required by law to be reported; or

(D) an admission of criminal conduct;

ret5hd

(20,491 posts)
36. "Sorry, your honor. I can't discuss what we conversed about...
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 05:28 PM
Oct 2021

That is priveledged communication.”

How much deference do we need to show to the people abusing/killing/beating/lying-to us?

We have the most dangerous job in the world!!!

No you don’t.

TexasTowelie

(112,116 posts)
60. Except that statement is not made in the course of a peer support counseling session.
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 12:22 AM
Oct 2021

Anything that is stated prior to a session is not considered confidential.

ret5hd

(20,491 posts)
61. If the peer is "certified", how soon may a "session" begin?
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 12:45 AM
Oct 2021

1 minute?
5 minutes?
Can the “session” start before the investigation of an incident begins? The man is traumatized! He just killed someone! Are you going to begrudge him a totally secret “session” with his “certified” partner or “certified” superior officer? It’s totally NOT trying to get a good story…it’s a “session”!

TexasTowelie

(112,116 posts)
62. It appears that you have ignored the text of this legislation during all of your replies.
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 01:05 AM
Oct 2021

Why don't you read what is in the bill before using the same argument that has been refuted multiple times by other members? If you did, you would realize that these sessions and peer support specialists aren't magically created out of thin air. There are even provisions to review the programs so that additional educational courses may be required for the specialists.

Your argument that all cops will become peer support counselors is ridiculous and intended to stoke fear. It makes me wonder if I'm on DU tonight or some other site.

bottomofthehill

(8,329 posts)
31. there is a logical reason this is for Federal Law ENforcement
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 05:13 PM
Oct 2021

On the SF-86 there is a mental health section. It is burred in a 100 plus page form and asks a lot of questions. If you lose your security clearance, you lose your job. It puts Feds in a difficult position. Seek help for a traumatic experience (think Jan 6) then you have the added stress of the potential loss of job. It is not easy. Mental Health is important, so is feeding your family so is keeping the roof over your head, so many keep it in. Creating some safe space to talk to people who will not have to disclose is important.

ret5hd

(20,491 posts)
39. And I have pointed to flaws that you didn't consider.
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 05:39 PM
Oct 2021

Explicitly apply it only to formal group settings…not roadside “counseling” sessions in the heat of an incident.

Formal sessions. Formal, recognized, scheduled sessions. Not impromptu roadside discussions, one on one, trying to figure out how to get out of this mess.

“Hey brother…you been certified?”
“Yeah”
“Can we talk?”

bottomofthehill

(8,329 posts)
40. again, got to guess you did not actually read it
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 05:44 PM
Oct 2021

(5) PEER SUPPORT COUNSELING SESSION.—The term “peer support counseling session” means any counseling formally provided through a peer support counseling program between a peer support specialist and 1 or more law enforcement officers.

sarisataka

(18,600 posts)
42. You need to get busy
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 05:58 PM
Oct 2021

And provide your wisdom and insight to the 50 Democratic Senators and 220 or so Representatives who overlooked this flaw.

George II

(67,782 posts)
43. You've pointed to what you perceive as flaws. The fact is, with or without this bill, anyone who...
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 05:59 PM
Oct 2021

....admits to what you think might be a criminal act, is NOT protected by this bill or any other.

I guess I and 524 legislators (4 did not vote) don't agree with you or the three who voted Nay.

Thankfully the bill passed anyway.

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