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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMcConnell's biggest ally in the Senate - Joe Manchin - kills paid family leave
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Sen. Kristen Gillibrand, a longtime advocate for paid leave, negotiated with Sen. Joe Manchin throughout the week to keep paid leave in the bill -- sharing the stories of workers and drafting alternatives. But her efforts were unsuccessful
Does anyone know what democratic values and goals Manchin actually does support? Seems like he is towing the Republican line on everything.
onecaliberal
(32,824 posts)budkin
(6,699 posts)Can't wait until 2022.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and that's a long time for any WVans who might be unhappy now. Red state, but how many remembered in 2018 that he voted against the Republicans giant "tax reform" just the previous year? Already old stuff.
budkin
(6,699 posts)And we don't have to think about him anymore.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)even if it doesn't get him out of our hair all the time.
Colgate 64
(14,732 posts)PXR-5
(522 posts)Maybe the Dems should primary him, sure it's WV, and most likely a Republican would get the seat, but really, he's just a Republican anyway.
I'm personally getting tired of "when they go low, we go high"
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,326 posts)LonePirate
(13,417 posts)BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)He should be deeply ashamed of himself.
Bettie
(16,089 posts)What is actually still IN the bill?
LonePirate
(13,417 posts)The climate change stuff is a fantasy wish list of unproven stuff that will not reap any benefits for years to come, if ever. Everything else that would be a benefit to average Americans as soon as the bill is signed has been scrapped or pared down to such a point where it's almost useless.
If we didn't need his vote for judges, I would hope Biden would kick Manchin's sorry ass out of the party. He is a disgrace to the millions of good Democrats in this country.
Bettie
(16,089 posts)to be had.
He and Sinema are a disgrace.
I'd hope that this will mobilize Democrats to vote more in, but with suppression and outright legalized cheating....
leftstreet
(36,106 posts)He's a fine senator, but his leadership skills are ZERO and he's not the right person for the times
Guess he can ponder all this when McConnell's back (officially) in charge
LonePirate
(13,417 posts)tritsofme
(17,376 posts)Math is math.
leftstreet
(36,106 posts)or blackmail them, or whatever it takes to keep the party in line
Ugh, this is why people vote for what they perceive to be strong arm leadership
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,006 posts)Let's break the law because the ends justify the means!
leftstreet
(36,106 posts)AZSkiffyGeek
(11,006 posts)Whatever it takes?
leftstreet
(36,106 posts)wait...stripping Joe Mansion of his committee assignments and his power to generate lobbyi$t money would probably feel like torture to him
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,006 posts)And that Democrats should blackmail Manchin. Im just taking your cavalier view of the law to its end.
You support breaking the law of it serves your purposes. You said so above.
tritsofme
(17,376 posts)The sort of leverage youre taking about exists only in your imagination.
LonePirate
(13,417 posts)budkin
(6,699 posts)And that's what's going on.
tritsofme
(17,376 posts)She never would have gotten a vote in committee, let alone win confirmation on the floor if McConnell was in charge.
We have the narrowest possible majority in the Senate, math is math.
leftstreet
(36,106 posts)and threaten to strip him of all his committee a$$ignments, giving him senate cafeteria cleaning duty instead, unless he plays ball
By the way, McConnell wouldn't want Mansion or Cinema
tritsofme
(17,376 posts)Why would Manchin accept such a punishment, when McConnell would be more than happy to restore his committees and more, in a Republican majority?
leftstreet
(36,106 posts)He can think of no way to lead his own party?
Hmm, sounds like it's time for him to go then
tritsofme
(17,376 posts)Math is math, regardless of your feelings on it. The solution is winning more elections.
48656c6c6f20
(7,638 posts)Joe Coal and Ms. Cinema around so we have a majority. Wait, that's what every republiQan is saying.
a kennedy
(29,647 posts)🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬
rickyhall
(4,889 posts)Is it OK? Can I say that? Just checking.
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,006 posts)With Manchin and Sinema.