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Tribetime

(4,684 posts)
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 12:19 AM Oct 2021

At the doctor's today had a conversation with the nurse

I wore a Cleveland Indians sweatshirt little chilly out and the nurse said I can't believe they're changing the name to the Guardians they should have left it the Indians because they were honoring a player for the Indians who was Indian. I wanted to say something but I didn't want to get into an argument I just can't believe the stupidity

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At the doctor's today had a conversation with the nurse (Original Post) Tribetime Oct 2021 OP
always say something Skittles Oct 2021 #1
Maybe I should have but it didn't seem like the right setting Tribetime Oct 2021 #3
call it out regardless Skittles Oct 2021 #5
👍 Tribetime Oct 2021 #6
.. Demovictory9 Oct 2021 #7
I have actually said that before Skittles Oct 2021 #8
They needed to change it, but the new name is awful. roamer65 Oct 2021 #2
I always thought the tribe was good Tribetime Oct 2021 #4
I like the Tribe, too. Guardians is just horrible. brush Oct 2021 #9
There's actually a good locally based reason for that Withywindle Oct 2021 #10
It's still a horrible name for a sports team. I don't care what... brush Oct 2021 #13
Deep dive reveals Withywindle Oct 2021 #11
I know a lot of Cleveland fans.. luvs2sing Oct 2021 #12

Skittles

(153,142 posts)
5. call it out regardless
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 12:25 AM
Oct 2021

I would have said, for example, "I am surprised you are able to dress yourself".

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
2. They needed to change it, but the new name is awful.
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 12:22 AM
Oct 2021

They should have named them Cleveland Rocks.

A play on the old Drew Carey thing.

brush

(53,764 posts)
9. I like the Tribe, too. Guardians is just horrible.
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 02:34 AM
Oct 2021

After all the time it took and they come up with that. Sad.

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
10. There's actually a good locally based reason for that
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 02:40 AM
Oct 2021

It's after historic Art Deco statues on a major bridge in the city

https://www.wtol.com/article/sports/baseball/cleveland-guardians-nickname-indians-change-team-name/512-c5ebba6e-3b8c-4d20-9469-794b45b5d136

"The Guardians nickname refers to statues just outside the stadium on the Hope Memorial Bridge. The 43-foot "Guardians of Traffic" have stood for nearly 100 years and are meant to symbolize progress and transportation.

The four pylons contain one guardian facing each direction for a total of eight designs. No two are the same.

According to Cleveland Scene, there's a stagecoach, covered wagon, hay rack, early 20th century car and four trucks representing the evolution of transportation. They were nearly torn down in the 1970s when the county engineer wanted to add more lanes to the bridge."

At the link, there are pictures and video, it's actually really cool.


brush

(53,764 posts)
13. It's still a horrible name for a sports team. I don't care what...
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 11:56 AM
Oct 2021

the history of the bridge is. Just horrible. And I've been a fan for decades through all the close call World Series just misses.

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
11. Deep dive reveals
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 03:13 AM
Oct 2021

That whole routine was based on a song written by a British guy in 1979.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Rocks

Ian Hunter was the lead singer of Mott the Hoople. Yes, "All the Young Dudes," that's him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Hunter_(singer)

Considering the Rock'n'Roll Hall of Fame is there now, Cleveland Rocks would be a good baseball team name. Guardians is fine too.

luvs2sing

(2,220 posts)
12. I know a lot of Cleveland fans..
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 06:24 AM
Oct 2021

who are very socially conscious and believed that story for a long time. Hubster was one of them. That’s what he was told growing up, and he carried that until just a few years ago.

I’m not a Clevelander, and I wasn’t even a baseball fan till 1994, so I don’t have that history. I managed to straighten him out with that, and he agrees with the need to change the name.

However, we both think Guardians is a stupid name.

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