So, Some Say the DOJ Isn't Prosecuting Any of the January 6 Capitol Breach Cases.

[MineralMan]

That's incorrect, actually. Cases are being prosecuted. If you're curious, the DOJ has a page on its website that lists them, shows the stage of the prosecution and tells you what the current status is. It's a long table, arranged in alphabetical order with the names of the defendants. It will take a while to read through it all. And yes, many of the charges are misdemeanor charges with defendant out on their own recognizance. Why not felonies? Because there's not evidence of felonies, I suppose.

It's really easy to find with a Google search for Capitol Breach Prosecutions, but here's a link so you can check them out for yourself:

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases

[Eyeball_Kid]

1. The DOJ's prosecution list just isn't edifying.

The aggregate of news junkies is looking for a high profile conviction or imprisonment, like household names: Bannon, Clark, Giuliani, Greene, Boebart, etc.-- people whom society in general would regard as figureheads who could be made into examples of how the wheels of justice actually do turn on the privileged and powerful.

When a subpoena is served on Trump, Junior, Kushner, Meadows or any other inner circle criminal, with penalties for dishonoring the subpoena already published, I'll be listening intently.

[MineralMan]

6. The more important the crime, the longer it takes to investigate before

filing charges. And those investigations are not done in the public view, for the most part. We're not talking about things that will take a week or two. More like months. Why? Because it takes that long to dig up the evidence needed to charge such figures with the serious crimes they appear to have committed.

What we "know" about those crimes is not admissible as evidence in a criminal case, you see. We "know" very little that could be used. Important cases take important amounts of time to investigate and for prosecutors to build a case that will stand up in court.

But, you knew that, I'm sure. You're impatient. We're all impatient, but our impatience has little or nothing to do with the work of investigators and prosecutors.

[dpibel]

12. How does this work?

In #7 and #9 of this thread, you are unable to comment on procedural matters because you are neither a member of DOJ nor a district court judge.

But it appears to me that you are here holding forth on investigative and evidentiary matters.

How is it that you have expertise to lecture here, but are excused from responses below by your lack of expertise?

[Grasswire2]

16. nt

[Scrivener7]

19. Yes. The "you can't have an opinion on the DOJ" lectures, from people who are IN THE PROCESS

of lecturing on their opinions about the DOJ, are getting very tiresome.

[pnwmom]

2. Judge Beryll Howell thinks many are being undercharged. n/t

[Bayard]

3. I think most of them are

Charge them with SEDITION for gawdsakes! Not misdemeanor parading or whatever.

[Scrivener7]

4. I guess she doesn't think 3 months' probation for participating in an

attempt to overthrow the government is an appropriate sentence.

That's because she is not a moron.

[Grasswire2]

17. astounding, isn't it? nt

[MineralMan]

7. Yes, I know.

Again, I don't work in the DOJ, so I have nothing to contribute to such cases.

[pnwmom]

8. She has seen the EVIDENCE that they were rioting and destroying things at the Capitol

and she doesn't understand why they're being prosecuted like ordinary protesters (like the kind who shout out things from the balcony while Congress is going on.)

[MineralMan]

9. I am not a Federal District Judge, so I don't know

how that stuff is handled. If the charges aren't adequate, in the judge's opinion, she can share her concerns with the DOJ attorneys. It sounds like she has done that.

[Scrivener7]

13. And yet you seem to have opinions about many other things that are not related

solely to where you DO work.

As does everyone else in the world.

[11cents]

5. No, that is not what "some" are saying

Many here and elsewhere are following the prosecutions closely. They're aware that they are happening and feel that the insurretionists are in most cases being grossly undercharged.

It seems that "some" of the judges hearing the cases agree!

[KPN]

10. Huh? News to me. Seems like we're all aware of the prosecutions that have occurred thus far. That

doesn't necessarily equate to satisfaction with outcomes, but it's also certainly not the same as saying there are none.

[msfiddlestix]

11. Many here are focused on ancillary legislation related to BBB

I'm one of the many who are focused primarily on our Criminal Justice as related to Jan 6th as well as a wide spectrum of criminal activity committed out in the open and in full view of the public by tfg, his family and all other associates.

As regards the Jan 6th prosecutions thus far has been woefully under charged. Judges agree and they are far better informed of what's going on to a much larger extent than the public. I take their perspectives and analysis with a very high degree of credibility.

It's important to validate fact based reality in our community. We cannot continue to play to the myth that we don't have a right to know generally what is going on or not going on. It is dangerous to us all to assume all is going as it should in secrecy.

Transparency and accountability is what we should all be striving to achieve. What do we have without either?

Certainly not Justice in this regard.

[Grasswire2]

18. YES

I want to know who, exactly who, decides what it is that the American people should be allowed to know.

How do we people CONSENT to be governed with super secrets continually hiding important truths from us?

How do we consent if we are not fully informed?

Who decides this?

Senator Blumenthal keeps going in front of the mic and moaning about how the American people "need to know" this (classified) and that (classified) "horrifying" and "shocking" information.

Senator Blumenthal (as any other Senator) could read classified material into the Congressional Record with impunity, as is his privilege.

And yet here we are. We people couldn't even be told the latest info that was due to be released about JFK assassination. Sixty years?

Did we ever see the unredacted Mueller report?

How about the McGahn testimony?

Sick of it.

[stillcool]

14. I don't think it matters what the DOJ does

people want who was there, regardless of their participation or non, to got to jail. Doesn't matter how many are in jail at this time, awaiting trial, which will take a while. They don't care. If it is not said on the TV it s not happening. Why bother with a thought process, when you can just diss anything that has any gray area. Who needs evidence?

Jan. 6 trials slowed by mounting evidence in US Capitol riot
By ALANNA DURKIN RICHER and LINDSAY WHITEHURST
September 28, 2021
https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-trials-arrests-health-united-states-3f40cb01b0415c6cd453b214711ab4ea
The court delays are dragging out a process already called into question by some right-wing lawmakers, who argue it’s a waste of time and money to prosecute people accused of low-level crimes. As the court cases continue to stall, so do answers to what happened that day and the possibility for consequences from the most violent assault at the Capitol in a generation. Meanwhile, Democrats in the House are subpoenaing former President Donald Trump’s aides and have requested a trove of documents as a select committee also probes the insurrection.

While it’s not unusual for federal cases to take a year or more to work through the system, some defense lawyers and judges are raising concerns that defendants with a right to a speedy trial may end up waiting a long time before getting their day in court.

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So far, only about 80 cases have been resolved by guilty pleas — largely by those who were charged only with misdemeanor offenses. Scores of others face serious felony charges including conspiracy, assaulting officers and obstructing of an official proceeding that call for lengthy sentences behind bars.
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The Justice Department has called it the largest investigation in American history, with probes open in 55 out of 56 FBI field offices. Evidence collected in the attack includes thousands of hours of video footage, hundreds of thousands of tips from the public and more than 1 million Parler posts, replies and data. The Justice Department is building massive databases to share all evidence stemming from the attack with defense attorneys.

691 people have been charged in the Capitol insurrection so far. This searchable table shows them all.
Madison Hall , Skye Gould , Rebecca Harrington , Jacob Shamsian , Azmi Haroun , Taylor Ardrey , and Erin Snodgrass Updated 21 hours ago
This table includes the names, charges, and links to court documents of all the people charged so far. We're keeping it updated as more names are released.
https://www.insider.com/all-the-us-capitol-pro-trump-riot-arrests-charges-names-2021-1
Capitol insurrection arrests made in 2021
Search in table
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https://tulsaworld.com/news/state-and-regional/crime-and-courts/judge-sentencing-oklahoma-woman-in-jan-6-riot-at-capitol-questions-fairness-of-prosecution/article_7458668a-252a-11ec-ac5e-2f3750d3b236.html
Judge sentencing Oklahoma woman in Jan. 6 riot at Capitol questions fairness of prosecution
COLLEEN LONG and MICHAEL KUNZELMAN Associated Press Oct 4, 2021 Updated Oct 19, 2021 6
WASHINGTON — Rejecting the recommendation of prosecutors, a federal judge sentenced a Jan. 6 rioter from Oklahoma to probation on Friday and suggested that the Justice Department was being too hard on those who broke into the Capitol compared to the people arrested during anti-racism protests following George Floyd’s murder.

U.S. District Judge Trevor McFadden questioned why federal prosecutors had not brought more cases against those accused in 2020 summertime protests, reading out statistics on riot cases in the nation’s capital that were not prosecuted.

[Gore1FL]

15. Do you have a link?

I have seen no one here deny that the prosecutions are happening.

I have seen threads complaining about the sentencing. Some of those threads quote judges with the same sentiment. That isn't the same thing, though.

Some links would be appreciated. Examples will help me to better understand what you are referencing.