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Joe Kennedy (Original Post) Boydog Oct 2021 OP
Hubris. nt Mopar151 Oct 2021 #1
Kennedy is a rookie riding mostly on his family name. Ocelot II Oct 2021 #2
I never understood why he challenged Markey. dflprincess Oct 2021 #3
I lived in MA for 54 years. I like Joe Kennedy and have actually CentralMass Oct 2021 #7
Thanks for this dflprincess Oct 2021 #13
This was exactly what pissed people off. Blaukraut Oct 2021 #8
Good Question Mayday_Messenger Oct 2021 #4
Heard a story where someone had to pick out Joe Kennedy in a Washington bar Boydog Oct 2021 #5
I think when Joe was campaigning with Beto in Texas dflprincess Oct 2021 #14
Tell ya fatha! Tanuki Oct 2021 #6
Oh I'm sure his Dad would be the only parent to help Boydog Oct 2021 #10
Some thoughts on the subject: Tanuki Oct 2021 #9
Interesting Mayday_Messenger Oct 2021 #11
Because MARKEY is a good Dem? UTUSN Oct 2021 #12
Markey is a skilled politician who out campaigned the noob who thought his name would carry him. SYFROYH Oct 2021 #15
Like how Teddy blew it against Jimmy UTUSN Oct 2021 #16

Ocelot II

(115,609 posts)
2. Kennedy is a rookie riding mostly on his family name.
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 08:54 PM
Oct 2021

I recall reading that some people thought he'd gotten too big for his britches in challenging a popular incumbent Democrat.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
7. I lived in MA for 54 years. I like Joe Kennedy and have actually
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 09:08 PM
Oct 2021

met him and heard him speak. However I think his decision to run against a popular Democratic Senator like Markey was a mistake.

dflprincess

(28,072 posts)
13. Thanks for this
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 10:41 PM
Oct 2021

I like both Kennedy and Markey as well & I thought Kennedy had a bright future (hopefully he still does). Not being in Massachusetts, I thought there might be things going on that I was not aware of that would explain it. Kind of sorry to hear it may have just been ego.


Blaukraut

(5,693 posts)
8. This was exactly what pissed people off.
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 09:11 PM
Oct 2021

There was no good reason for him to challenge Markey except that he felt it was his turn, maybe? There was no daylight between their positions on the issues, so people went with the incumbent they knew and liked. Joe can wait and try again some other day.

4. Good Question
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 08:56 PM
Oct 2021

The polling suddenly changed in late July. Would be interesting to hear from some of those in Massachusetts as to what happened.

I like Joe Kennedy btw. Hope he finds his way back into national politics.

Boydog

(718 posts)
5. Heard a story where someone had to pick out Joe Kennedy in a Washington bar
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 09:07 PM
Oct 2021

They chose Beto O Rourke. I too like Kennedy

dflprincess

(28,072 posts)
14. I think when Joe was campaigning with Beto in Texas
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 10:42 PM
Oct 2021

they made some jokes about Beto sometimes being mistaken for the Kennedy.

Boydog

(718 posts)
10. Oh I'm sure his Dad would be the only parent to help
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 09:20 PM
Oct 2021

his kid in an election in a negative or positive manner. I’m not impressed with Markey a bit. If Kennedys got beaten down for that, not a one of them would have ascended to the national political spotlight.

Tanuki

(14,914 posts)
9. Some thoughts on the subject:
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 09:18 PM
Oct 2021
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/09/02/joe-kennedy-senate-campaign-failed-408033

..."Kennedy’s failure to lay out a rationale for taking on Markey wasn’t the sole cause of his defeat. Rather, it was symptomatic of a campaign that was too confident, for too long — it didn’t think the usual rules applied, or that the 74-year-old Markey had enough fight in him to fend off one of the Democratic Party’s brightest young stars.
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What Kennedy didn't envision was the way Markey would reinvent himself as a darling of the progressive left over the course of the year, harnessing the energy of young voters and climate activists.
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"Here is my #1 hot take as a newly-free Warren staffer: THE F------ CO-AUTHOR OF THE GODDAMN GREEN NEW DEAL MIGHT LOSE HIS SEAT IN THE SENATE TO A MODERATE AND YOU’RE ALL JUST SLEEPING ON IT," tweeted Emma Friend, a staffer on Warren's presidential campaign. Markey raised $57,000 off the viral post, and he hired Friend to the campaign a month later. Dozens of Markey fan accounts began to pop up on Twitter.
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As young activists churned out pro-Markey memes and videos, he brought them into the fold as digital fellows. It helped that Markey won endorsements from New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, his partner on the Green New Deal, and the Sunrise Movement. The Markey campaign spent almost half a million dollars airing an ad that only featured AOC, and not Markey, in the weeks leading up to the primary."...(more)

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