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luv2fly

(2,475 posts)
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 10:50 AM Oct 2021

Minneapolis Cops Accused of Delaying Backup for Liberal Officer

Trump-Loving Minneapolis Cops Accused of Delaying Backup for Liberal Officer on Dangerous Calls
Published on October 30, 2021 at 10:20 AM ET
By John Wright – Raw Story

A liberal Minneapolis police officer has quit and left the country after she says she was relentlessly harassed by fellow officers for not supporting former president Donald Trump.

Colleen Ryan was the only Minneapolis police officer disciplined in connection with the department’s response to George Floyd protests last year — for “speaking without permission to a magazine columnist about what she called a toxic, para-militant police culture that breeds dangerous officers like Derek Chauvin,” the Minneapolis Star-Tribunereports.

Ryan has filed a complaint with the Minnesota Department of Human Rights alleging she was discriminated against because she’s a lesbian who advocated for “women and queer officers” in the workplace.

In her complaint, Ryan alleges she was denied a promotion to become a field training officer earlier this year. Meanwhile, two straight men from her shift were promoted – one who violated the department’s search and seizure policy, and another who faces drunken-driving charges.

More at

https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/2021/10/trump-loving-minneapolis-cops-accused-of-delaying-backup-for-liberal-officer-on-dangerous-calls/

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Minneapolis Cops Accused of Delaying Backup for Liberal Officer (Original Post) luv2fly Oct 2021 OP
Police brotherhood and sisterhood is in trouble ...... Lovie777 Oct 2021 #1
Not the least bit surprised. Phoenix61 Oct 2021 #2
Law enforcement centers accross the country will be bluestarone Oct 2021 #3
Wow, looks like cop reform efforts are going swimmingly in Minneapolis! WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 #4
Perhaps it is... 2naSalit Oct 2021 #6
It would be quite satisfying for me to know for a fact that...... jaxexpat Oct 2021 #19
My point is the system is unreformable. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 #23
Then it has to become 'reformable' whathehell Oct 2021 #24
How do you make an unreformable system "reformable"? People have been trying for reform for decades. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 #31
It's being "unreformable" is your opinion.. whathehell Oct 2021 #34
Hoping for reform is surrending to criminal anarchy. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 #38
Hoping for it may be, doing it is not. n/t. whathehell Oct 2021 #39
Are you voting yes to 2? iemanja Oct 2021 #45
I don't live in Minneapolis. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 #46
Then it has to become 'reformable' whathehell Oct 2021 #26
And you coulld be right. 2naSalit Oct 2021 #33
So if the system can't be reformed and is abolished as you advocate, what then? Jedi Guy Oct 2021 #35
The abolitionist model means taking the resources we dedicate to the cops and instead diverting them WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 #36
That's absurd on its face. Jedi Guy Oct 2021 #40
I'll put you down as a "no," then? WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 #43
Please do. I prefer fantasy only in my entertainment, not in my politics. N/T Jedi Guy Oct 2021 #48
What is politics, but fantasy persevering? WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 #50
Let me put it another way, then. Jedi Guy Oct 2021 #51
there will always be rapists, killer, molesters DonCoquixote Oct 2021 #53
What do we do with them now? Not much. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 #59
part carign for their victims DonCoquixote Oct 2021 #60
The vast majority of sexual assaults happen between people who know each other; the cases of WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 #61
She got Serpicoed for her dastardly Liberal thinking Submariner Oct 2021 #5
That is reminiscent of a Law and Order episode from years ago PatSeg Oct 2021 #7
The old boy network is not just for the wealthy dlk Oct 2021 #8
The police are the front-line soldiers of American Fascism. n/t spike jones Oct 2021 #9
I fear you are right-- HUAJIAO Oct 2021 #17
Servicing. Of course. SharonAnn Oct 2021 #10
This really shows us how far we have slipped after 40 years of propoganda. Very sad Evolve Dammit Oct 2021 #11
We just have to keep pounding on them until they wake up and decide to change. Meanwhile, good Martin68 Oct 2021 #12
This is a terrible plan. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 #20
I'm all ears to hear your better plan. Martin68 Oct 2021 #32
Minneapolis should make her Police Chief. SunSeeker Oct 2021 #13
"quit and left the country" left-of-center2012 Oct 2021 #14
Ukraine with the OSCE. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 #21
That's what Serpico did after he testified against the Department whathehell Oct 2021 #29
My (D) state rep is a cop. Someone left a note on his car saying, "Who's gonna watch your back?" femmedem Oct 2021 #15
It's a national 'cancer' left-of-center2012 Oct 2021 #16
Would those cops be upset if they were called gestapo. plimsoll Oct 2021 #18
Some of them might really like it. gldstwmn Oct 2021 #37
"Trump loving cops" is much too mild RVN VET71 Oct 2021 #22
law enforcement in the US is as scary as calling the police in Mexico or some other types of samsingh Oct 2021 #25
Too.broad a brush.. whathehell Oct 2021 #28
You're right...those lilly white gated communities... ret5hd Oct 2021 #54
Lol..Where might they be? whathehell Oct 2021 #55
Yup, gotta clean out the riff raff like Chauvin. Joinfortmill Oct 2021 #27
We are menaced by all types of Criminals. MarcA Oct 2021 #30
Eliminate all police unions? kshel Oct 2021 #41
The FBI needs to start infiltrating local police forces in Roisin Ni Fiachra Oct 2021 #42
Or the weeder gets Rounduped luv2fly Oct 2021 #47
Reminds me of the female Florida Trooper who chased down another cop speeding to his off duty gig A HERETIC I AM Oct 2021 #44
If true, then those cops should be fired. rockfordfile Oct 2021 #49
why is this so easy to believe. barbtries Oct 2021 #52
RICO prosecution of union on civil rights? nt Mopar151 Oct 2021 #56
i don't know. barbtries Oct 2021 #57
K&R for exposure Blue Owl Oct 2021 #58

Phoenix61

(16,993 posts)
2. Not the least bit surprised.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 10:58 AM
Oct 2021

Any bets on how many of them are going to quit because of the vaccine mandates? Seems to be a happy unintended consequence.

bluestarone

(16,859 posts)
3. Law enforcement centers accross the country will be
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 11:01 AM
Oct 2021

A HUGE problem for us. They are totally infested with White ass suppremists. Hope we deal a blow to these idiots.

2naSalit

(86,323 posts)
6. Perhaps it is...
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 12:05 PM
Oct 2021

The closer they get to being defeated in their reign of terror, the nastier they'll get.

jaxexpat

(6,799 posts)
19. It would be quite satisfying for me to know for a fact that......
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 01:09 PM
Oct 2021

racist, sadistic, free rein, testosterone addicted cops all across America feel and flee the hot breath of justice bearing down on their red necks and that an end to their reign of terror approaches. Were it to become a trend, it could empower good cops to police their own rather than quit, leaving us with only the neo-SS, the dregs of society, as they act out their psychotically lethal vagaries.

What it is profitable for laymen to consider is that, despite the relatively low wages for LEOs, many of them are still in it for the money. It's the only job, though by design insurmountably dead end, available which accommodates some people's motivation/IQ peculiarity.

Our society will suffer until we decide that maximum compensation for work done should always go to teachers and policemen while everybody else gratefully pays them their due.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,307 posts)
31. How do you make an unreformable system "reformable"? People have been trying for reform for decades.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 01:55 PM
Oct 2021

150 years of reform for us George Floyd.

whathehell

(29,034 posts)
34. It's being "unreformable" is your opinion..
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 02:15 PM
Oct 2021

There's been no consensus on that claim. It must be done, as societies aren't going to abolish LED officers and surrender themselves to criminal anarchy.

Jedi Guy

(3,175 posts)
35. So if the system can't be reformed and is abolished as you advocate, what then?
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 02:16 PM
Oct 2021

What would you put in the place of police departments as a law enforcement mechanism?

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,307 posts)
36. The abolitionist model means taking the resources we dedicate to the cops and instead diverting them
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 02:27 PM
Oct 2021

to build stronger communities to reduce crime. We know what causes crime; giving those efforts the resources we instead give to cops would be transformative.

Jedi Guy

(3,175 posts)
40. That's absurd on its face.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 02:41 PM
Oct 2021

The US spends roughly $100 billion a year on police and a further $80 billion on incarceration. That amount of money is not going to bring about some utopian paradise where police are no longer needed because crime doesn't exist.

There is no society in the history of humanity that had zero crime, and there will never be a society that has zero crime. Crime will always exist because human nature is what it is. That being the case, there will always be a need for law enforcement. Pretending otherwise is laughable.

Jedi Guy

(3,175 posts)
51. Let me put it another way, then.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 05:03 PM
Oct 2021

Gimli son of Glóin will be elected President (with Legolas as his running mate, of course) before police abolition happens, let alone works.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
53. there will always be rapists, killer, molesters
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 11:06 PM
Oct 2021

who do what they want to do be3cause they LIKE IT..not some socialogical thesis: what do you do with them?

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,307 posts)
59. What do we do with them now? Not much.
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:51 AM
Oct 2021

It's not a "sociological thesis" to observe that 6 percent of rapists spend any time in jail, and less than 1 percent get a felony conviction. Those numbers don't improve no matter how much money we throw at the system we have. If you truly care about what happens to rapists and killers and their victims, you know this system doesn't work.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
60. part carign for their victims
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 12:03 PM
Oct 2021

is keeping bubba away from that lady he thinks he has a right to rape. of course, we need more counselors, more support networks for the women, but that won't keep Bubba from trying to break into her house unless he knows he will be thrown in the lockup. That figure you quoted of 6 percent should be 100, and that won't work without people ready to ARREST these giuyts.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,307 posts)
61. The vast majority of sexual assaults happen between people who know each other; the cases of
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 12:21 PM
Oct 2021

"Bubba" breaking and entering certainly get more coverage, but they are much rarer. We know from science why men rape, and you are right, there is a sense of entitlement. But science shows us that as a cause of sexual harassment, that sense of entitlement is taught in childhood. If we know it's taught, we can make sure it's not taught.

that won't keep Bubba from trying to break into her house unless he knows he will be thrown in the lockup.
We also know that fear of punishment is not a deterrence, but fear of getting caught is. A different kind of community -- one that doesn't rely on an institution that has an abysmal failure rate when it comes to catching violent criminals -- can make a difference.

That figure you quoted of 6 percent should be 100, and that won't work without people ready to ARREST these giuyts.
Yeah, I don't think a "willingness to arrest" is really the problem.

PatSeg

(47,260 posts)
7. That is reminiscent of a Law and Order episode from years ago
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 12:12 PM
Oct 2021

Makes you wonder how often such delays happen in real life.

dlk

(11,512 posts)
8. The old boy network is not just for the wealthy
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 12:28 PM
Oct 2021

Gender bias and discrimination are woven into the fabric of our country. We have far to go.

HUAJIAO

(2,379 posts)
17. I fear you are right--
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 01:03 PM
Oct 2021

When the shit hits the fan we know EXACTLY which side they will be on. And they have those soldiery boots and we have sneakers.

Martin68

(22,765 posts)
12. We just have to keep pounding on them until they wake up and decide to change. Meanwhile, good
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 12:53 PM
Oct 2021

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people are suffering at there hands of the "good old boy" police culture. My heart foes out to this woman, and I hope she prevails in court.

femmedem

(8,196 posts)
15. My (D) state rep is a cop. Someone left a note on his car saying, "Who's gonna watch your back?"
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 12:58 PM
Oct 2021

That was after he pushed for an investigation into a female cop's claim that she was being discriminated against because of her gender and sexually harassed. He also received threatening notes after he voted for police accountability. He is Black and has also been outspoken about racial discrimination in the department.

https://ctexaminer.com/2021/10/14/lawsuit-by-officer-alleges-pattern-of-harassment-in-new-londons-police-department/

RVN VET71

(2,689 posts)
22. "Trump loving cops" is much too mild
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 01:21 PM
Oct 2021

Fascist Swine, Nazi-lookalikes is closer to the truth.

BTW, The murderer cop, Chauvin, was a training officer despite a rap sheet of brutality complaints a mile long. And she gets iced out because she spoke with a reporter?

Maybe it’s time for Mpls to consider cancelling its entire police force and starting over with a new one, less intransigently Fascist?

samsingh

(17,590 posts)
25. law enforcement in the US is as scary as calling the police in Mexico or some other types of
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 01:34 PM
Oct 2021

dictatorships.

Statistically it seems the chances of getting killed by police that are called for help is the same as getting killed by criminals.

It's shameful and disgusting. Anti-American and traitorous to the American Ideals of Justice.

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
30. We are menaced by all types of Criminals.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 01:53 PM
Oct 2021

Those in gangs, those in finance, those with badges and the lone wolves.

kshel

(1 post)
41. Eliminate all police unions?
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 02:45 PM
Oct 2021

I don't know the legal difficulties, but I think police unions should not be allowed. Nationally. I live in Minneapolis &, for decades, there have been genuine efforts to connect our police force to Mpls. communities & to reign in bad police practices & conduct. But the police union always says, "Nope. Won't work." Or they pay lip service to it & nothing gets done. So it's the union. They insulate the force from the people they serve. They encourage the idea the world is out to get them. Sure, in dangerous neighborhoods it IS bad. But not everyone is against cops. As for the Mpls. ballot question on dismantling our police force & instead forming some new, as yet undefined safety dept., the strongest group against ending the police dept. are Black folk. The very people you'd think would be FOR this reform measure, given the police murder of George Floyd. (I have voted against the question.) It's not that there's a special love between Mpls. cops & our Black community. It is that these are our most at risk residents & they realize how necessary having police protectors are. The problems go back to the union & its president, Kroll. THEY are the ones who resolutely thwart progress. The mayor fires a bad cop; the union finds a judge to reinstate him. The police chief tries to institute new policy; the union ignores it. A new recruit joins the force with progressive college officer training; the old-timers tell him/her, "No, this is how we do it here." I imagine these are problems across the country. It will require a national solution. Can't be just local or state. I am pro-union, but serving the public good must take precedence. NOT a good-ol-boy network, with longtime officers who quite like their power & feel little compunction expressing their bigoted views in their daily police work. Even if a civilian (a person of color) occasionally gets killed because of it. I firmly believe police reform will get nowhere until ALL police unions are disallowed. They exist to be an obstacle. Could our U.S. armed forces function if soldiers/marines/sailors/airmen were allowed to unionize? NO! And we see having police forces unionized also doesn't work. More to the point, it creates a situation that is genuinely dangerous. They cannot be controlled by elected mayors & city councils or appointed police chiefs. It's dangerous to individuals (George Floyd) & dangerous to our democracy. Every day we read about more officers publicly siding with the Jan. 6 insurrectionists & our Know-Nothing former president. Police unions have fostered this kind of irresponsible behavior. In a 2nd U.S. civil war, many of 'em would fight with the fascists. Very bad. Civilian control needs to be reestablished. Get rid of police unions. (Sorry for the length of this letter.)

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
42. The FBI needs to start infiltrating local police forces in
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 02:47 PM
Oct 2021

order to weed out the fascists.

Once enough of them get busted, the rest of them will be afraid of getting busted.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,362 posts)
44. Reminds me of the female Florida Trooper who chased down another cop speeding to his off duty gig
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 03:46 PM
Oct 2021

And was absolutely pilloried for it and stalked by other cops, so much so that she moved out of S. Florida.

https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/miami-cops-stalking-woman-trooper-costs-75000-in-legal-fees-9821712

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/features/gone-viral/os-trooper-sues-police-agencies-harassment-20140213-post.html

Found this on a Twitter thread the other day. Seems about right these days;

barbtries

(28,769 posts)
57. i don't know.
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 12:29 AM
Oct 2021

there must be a massive culture change but damned if i know how to make it happen. i'm not a lawyer but it seems doubtful to me that RICO would apply?

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