My BIL just told me that Florida is last in Covid infections

[tavernier]

Said DeSantis is bragging about this accomplishment . I said Where? Fox News? He said yes.

Funny because nationally we are still the third highest.

Truth is no longer important in broadcasting.

[marybourg]

1. He's right per the NYT.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html

[csziggy]

7. NY Times COVID info now behind their paywall

Weren't they allowing access to COVID info before without a subscription? I wonder when they changed and decided to make money off it?

[Sympthsical]

21. Florida has 1,736 daily cases, 8 per 100,000 people

From the NYT's info.

That is, in fact, the lowest state rates on the list.

Surprised me, too.

The national rate at the moment is 22 per 100,000.

[csziggy]

23. To be honest, I don't really believe any "official" figures that are released by Florida

DeSantis has proven himself willing to lie about the data.

But if true, those figures make me hope that I can get my operation soon.

[Sympthsical]

26. Oh, who knows what's going on down there

I was just sharing the info from behind the paywell. School gives us free NYT subscriptions ^^

[csziggy]

30. Thank you for sharing. I do appreciate it. nt

[Salviati]

28. It definitely has come down a lot in the last few weeks...

But I wonder how much that may be due to the transmission spike in Aug-Sep. During that time the number of cases was often 100+ per 100,000 per day. It seems to me that it's possible that it's burned through a lot of the most vulnerable and most risk-prone population, and the transmission has gone down because there aren't as many people left to infect until their immunity wanes.

[LisaL]

33. That's how it generally works.

Florida had a huge wave and most susceptible people already gotten infected. Until new variant and so on.

[Drunken Irishman]

54. That's likely a huge reason.

They burned through, and killed, a lot of people and now it's dying out.

It happened in India too during their Delta surge.

[marybourg]

24. They were. I don't know when it changed.

I do support their work with a subscription, so I can see that FL does have the lowest per capita rate of disease, according to the information the NYT has. How accurate that information is, who knows. My sister in FL says it seems much better than a few months ago. There does seem to me to be some sort of “bounce-back” effect to the infection rate.

[Big Blue Marble]

37. No, you are able to see all the Covid data collection without a paid subscription.

Sign in with your email, as an unpaid member and all that data is available. I check it every day.
It is an excellent presentation, much better that The Washington Post where I do have a paid
subscription.

[csziggy]

39. I guess that since I have not signed up to be spammed with NYT emails

I won't see their "free" data.

I know, that is a little harsh, but I once signed up for their cooking columns. After getting spammed with multiple emails per day, I finally opted out. I am not willing to repeat that experience, even for accurate COVID data.

[PasadenaTrudy]

44. use a fake email address n/t

[csziggy]

45. They don't send out a confirmation email?

So many places do and won't allow access if the confirmation email is not clicked.

[Celerity]

51. Use a burner email. Or find a deal on a subscription. I pay 2 euro month here in the EU for the NYT

I support them, WaPo, The Guardian, The Atlantic, and get The Economist, The Financial Times, and The WSJ for free from my firm.

[former9thward]

48. They would like to stay in business.

Most newspapers haven't.

[Silent3]

40. I'm surprised by what I see for Vermont

For most of this pandemic it's been way ahead of the rest of the country.

Where I live in southern NH looks like it's doing great.

[marybourg]

41. There's a certain amount of cyclicality to the pandemic.

The good becomes bad; the bad become good.

[Me.]

2. I Heard That Is True But THat Florida Has THe MOst Covid Deaths

I believe that was on Rachel.

“Florida now has record numbers of Covid-19 cases and deaths, surpassing figures from other points in the pandemic.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/florida-covid-deaths-second-wave-record-b1907803.html

[peggysue2]

14. Yes, they've done splendidly . . .

Except for all the dead bodies.

But then, the non-stop propaganda is killing us all.

[rurallib]

20. Just imagine if they reported the actual cases and deaths

[Me.]

22. Quite

But that propaganda will get him re-elected unless the truth gains the upper hand

[former9thward]

49. No it doesn't.

CA has the most 71,000, TX 69,000 and FL 59,000.

https://usafacts.org/visualizations/coronavirus-covid-19-spread-map/

[KarenS]

3. My Winter-Visitor Neighbor from Montana just told me the same thing,,,,

*sigh*

[Yonnie3]

4. In cases reported over 14 days it is true

Other metrics like deaths and hospitalizations put Florida near the top of the list.

Florida wouldn't under report would they?

[Captain Zero]

11. They fired the woman who wouldn't cook the numbers

Last year.

Obviously they replaced hér with someone who would.

[NYC Liberal]

59. They didn't just fire her. They sent state cops to her house to seize all her

electronics, at gunpoint.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214674412

[zonemaster]

5. Well - he just forgot one critical word

"Florida is last in reporting Covid infections"

[helpisontheway]

6. I have been terrified to visit that state. However, we are gonna

pop down there for three days. We have had our booster shot and will still mask up.

[EmmaLee E]

17. Good luck to you.

You won't find me going south

[jimfields33]

18. I live in Florida. It's much better.

A nurse friend says even her hospital is back to normal. Have a great time.

[cinematicdiversions]

56. The weather has shifted and people are outdoors more.

The Covid has disappeared at least from my neck of the woods down here.

Lots of elderly have gotten their third shot.

[Mariana]

46. It's pretty safe right now.

I was in central FL a lot in spring and early summer, and again about a month ago. I noticed that a LOT more people were wearing masks and respecting distance on my last trip than they were earlier in the year. The Delta wave got some people's attention, I guess. Too bad tens of thousands of Florida residents had to die for that to happen.

[DBoon]

8. May be true for the last 14 days

But FL has the 7th worst cumulative case rate and death rate for the pandemic:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

A lot of people had to die so DeSantis can brag.

[Salviati]

31. And a lot of that rise came in Aug-Sept of this year.

During a time when we know how to deal with this thing. A spike in cases and death rate at the beginning of the pandemic is excusable, we didn't know what we were dealing with, but seeing a spike like that 18 months in is a different story.

[samnsara]

9. i bet they are last in REPORTING infections

[House of Roberts]

10. Florida is cooking their stats

by classifying some cases at first reported incidence to move the case backwards chronologically. It'll catch up with them eventually.

[Phoenix61]

34. Yep! They are doing the same thing with deaths. nt

[zipplewrath]

12. Lowest per capita

Actually, Florida is now the lowest per capita rate of infections in the US. Alaska is the highest.

There's a pay wall but....

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/coronavirus/fl-ne-florida-covid-19-lowest-case-rate-in-nation-20211029-gvcy2hxdnngufnv3vpwm23yuae-story.html

[gulliver]

13. Deaths and hospital/ICU trips are what matter

A lot of regular folks don't seem get that a non-breakthrough infection is ridiculously worse news than a breakthrough infection. They just need to know the deaths and hospital stays to get the point. That gives them the info they need to infer for themselves that a non-breakthrough infection is really likely to kick their ass or make them miserable for months if it doesn't kill them.

The central focus should be on the number of people who end up in the hospital, the ICU, or the morgue. It's basically all unvaccinated people. We keep getting lost in this discussion of infections. The news media does an abysmal job when it comes to explaining the relative damage potential of breakthrough vs. "I just let it happen naturally because I'm dumb" infections.

[Mariana]

47. "They just need to know the deaths and hospital stays to get the point."

And those numbers are being intentionally obscured by the state.

[csziggy]

15. Worldmeter shows Florida as third in the nation with no reported deaths for yesterday.

The lack of reported deaths puts them among the eleven states that have no reported deaths. That does not put Florida at the bottom since DeSantis has been manipulating numbers for the entire pandemic.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/

Worldmeter also shows Florida at number 14 for new cases as of yesterday so I doubt the death cases have gone down significantly.


This is important to me. I've been waiting since August to schedule an operation which the surgeon wants done in-patient. The local hospitals have not been doing "elective" in-patient surgeries for two months. I'm scheduled to call in Monday to see if they are opening up, but I am not hopeful. Maybe I can get by Christmas...

[Mariana]

50. My mother couldn't get an outpatient surgical procedure done for months

in central Florida. She finally got it about a month ago. She had to suffer debilitating nerve pain all that time because of the unvaccinated assholes jamming up the hospitals. I wish you luck.

[Ritabert]

16. Some health organization said it's due

....to Covid surges which happen every 2 months or so. Florida's coming off the summer surge but it'll be back.

[BornADemocrat]

19. FL lumps their deaths into groups 2-3x a week. Worst death rate since June 1st in the nation by far

They're fudging their numbers, and it's working.

1 in every 937 Floridians has died since June 1st 2021 when most older people were vaccinated and the vaccine was commonly available.

It's the worst of the worst in failure.

https://dangoodspeed.com/covid/total-deaths-since-june-2021

[LymphocyteLover]

25. they had a MASSIVE delta wave and then it seems to have gone down almost completely

which seems a bit hard to believe given patterns with delta waves elsewhere.

Indiana has a moderate delta wave and it's taken forever to come down to pre-wave levels.

[Yonnie3]

27. This is like a football team bragging they're the best (last week),

when they finally won one game last week. They lost all the others this season.

[FakeNoose]

32. Good analogy

They'll probably lose again next week too.

[GoCubsGo]

29. Ron DeathSentence must be cooking the books again.

Nobody should trust the numbers coming out of Florida as long as he's running things.

[SheltieLover]

35. Lies

I'm hearing there are rooms filled with bodies in hospitals in FL.

[onenote]

36. Source?

[albacore]

38. Wait one fucking minute...

Screen grab from the NYT... 175 deaths for the 29th, and 124 for the 7 day average.
Am I missing something?



Go to this URL and you can manipulate the interactive without the paywall... I think.
https://www.google.com/search?q=FLORIDA+COVID+DEATHS&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS709US709&oq=FLORIDA+COVID+DEATHS&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i131i433i512j0i433i512j0i457i512j0i512l2j69i60l2.7008j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[sciencescience]

42. they're seventh worst in deaths per capita

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

[eallen]

43. That's like boasting that a team did well the last five minutes of the third quarter...

While ignoring the cumulative score.

[Pompoy]

52. You can always use the https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
You can click on a state, and then scroll down to the graphs. You can point at the graph lines and it will show the stats reported for a specific day going back to February 2020 until today, about new cases, deaths, how many in total, how many active cases.

You can even check foreign countries. USA as a whole, by state.

[Pompoy]

53. Florida has the highest rates of infection among large states, and is closing in on NY for death per

1 million. That's after NY had the worst numbers because of the early hit of the pandemic before the vaccines etc.

[GulfCoast66]

55. Jesus, fellow DU members! Of course our rates are down.

And I’m here. I can tell you that we are having few new cases. Why?

First, we have a decent vaccination rate and better in blue counties. Hell, my purple county is at 70%.

And we just had a very virulent strain of the virus blow through. The cost? Lots of dead people. But I learned in college the more virulent a disease the faster it goes thru a society. Then it is gone. Like totally. Happened in 1919. If you have not read ‘The Great influenza’ you should. It’s about the last pandemic we faced. It perfectly predicted this one including the social reaction

In Florida enough people are vaccinated or have natural immunity that there are few people left to get Covid.

Unless there is a totally new strain we are soon done with this pandemic. It what happens. A disease hits. Kills lots of people. Then goes away.

Politically it probably won us the White House. But acting like we are in a forever pandemic will cost us.

[cinematicdiversions]

57. I can't recommend this enough. Nt.

[GulfCoast66]

58. Why, thank you. Both the wife and I,

While getting older, agree that being a science student has helped us more than ever before. Not that we are virologist. But having the ability to think rationally.

And we were both shocked at the fact that when we told that fact to our employees, even though neither of us are still in science, they listened! We are both above 55 and are not in a science field. But we have both kept up with genetic and science news. It shocked us how much weight that carried with our employees. My wife manages over 400 people. They are almost all vaccinated. Because she seems to have credibility. Crazy.

But that same science tells us the pandemic is almost over. We still wear masks. But unless there is a big change we won’t be for long. No pandemic last too long.