Are there really more of us than them?

[oldtime dfl_er]

I keep hearing that but I also know that the narrative is always, always always about them. About the dark money, the anti vaxxers, the "Brandon" people, the white nationalists (I refuse to use the term supremacists). I'm discouraged tonight, especially with what I'm hearing about Virginia. I don't know how that election will turn out, but predictions seem pretty poor.

[NullTuples]

1. That's part of why Facebook (and Twitter) are so evil.

Throw in Fox, Sinclair and other media empires and one begins to see why it appears they are bigger and more the norm. And we might as well include that due to gerrymandered districts and the electoral college, numerically Democrats are grossly underrepresented and grossly underpowered in the Legislature.

[Woodswalker]

2. I wonder

I'm a white middle-class male and almost everyone in my demographic I come across is a Trump and Republican supporter. I live in a suburb 90 mins from NYC. I really don't associate with anyone anymore except for my wife and two grown kids, since Trump. And I'm fine with it. Can't be in the same room with a republican. Very dark thoughts go thru my head. If your a Trump lover your not safe around me

[SWMO_8541]

4. If you are seriously contemplating a violent act

Against a person that you don’t even know based only on their political views- Get help today!
Maybe you aren’t, but what you wrote seems like you need mental health treatment.

[oldtime dfl_er]

6. this is completely out of line

You ought to apologize.

[SWMO_8541]

15. Why?

If someone in my workplace talked like that, it would be irresponsible of me not to report it.
Saying that people aren’t safe around you is not normal or acceptable, and to me seems like a warning sign that that person is contemplating a violent act.

[Croney]

17. But this is DU, not your workplace, so...

read the room.

Republicans aren't safe around me either; I'm an old woman but I can kick.

[oldtime dfl_er]

19. exactly

[Celerity]

12. Welcome to DU. You should self delete this.

cheers

[Jedi Guy]

22. Why should they self-delete?

I read the post the exact same way, that Woodswalker contemplates violence if they encounter a Trump supporter. If so, that's not really what I'd consider a healthy mental state.

Dislike or even hatred is one thing; fantasizing about inflicting violence on someone because you don't like their politics... isn't that supposed to be the other side's gig?

[Celerity]

23. They said

seems like you need mental health treatment.

Which is OTT.

[Jedi Guy]

24. Dunno that I'd agree that that's over the top.

I don't find myself thinking about committing acts of violence on someone if their politics and mine don't line up. I avoid talking about politics in that case, try to have the most cordial interaction possible, and if all else fails, ignore them and leave.

I don't see how fantasizing about inflicting violence on someone because of their politics is productive or healthy. If those thoughts are constant or intrusive, perhaps therapy might not be a bad idea.

[Croney]

26. Therapy is almost never a bad idea.

But it's also quite therapeutic to imagine TFG slipping on a banana peel as he leaves the ballgame tonight and rolling down ten levels of ramp. 😜

[Jedi Guy]

28. Nah, some poor stadium employee would have to clean up the nasty orange smears.

They may not have biohazard suits available, and even if they did, the goop might eat through the suit.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

14. Uh huh.

[GemDigger]

27. I think you jumped the gun on that comment.

Some people aren't safe around me either. I have learned to not hold my tongue any longer when it comes to the republicans.
When I get on a roll, nobody is safe around me. Flip my bitch switch and no one is safe around me. In many cases people aren't safe around me because I will "Momspeak" all over their sorry asses if they go too far.

No where in all that is violence.

I think you might have taken what was said completely wrong.

[Drunken Irishman]

3. Do you think Biden legitimately won the 2020 election?

[oldtime dfl_er]

5. Are you asking me?

Yes, I do. Of course. I know the numbers. I'm having a hard time tonight, though, with so many currents that seem to be running counter to what I think. And the lack of action from Merrick Garland is honestly frightening. I'm legit scared, for my country, for myself, for democracy.

[Drunken Irishman]

16. That's your answer.

More Americans voted for Biden, and against Trump, than for/against any presidential candidate in American history.

We outnumber them. We may not be as vocal - but we outnumber them.

[Igel]

20. It's possible to say we won the election

and that a majority of the possible voters are in the opposite party. The self-selected sample of actual voters < set of all possible voters.

Or that we were the majority but that opinion has shifted so that the majority that was aligned with us are not now aligned with us. Tense has semantic content, it has meaning. Run the same same election now, there might be different results because the electorate has changed its mind.

All that matters is that Biden won the EC in 2021. Elections are snapshots. We find an average of snapshots by having the electoral system as it is: Every two years, new House; every 4 years, president's re-elected; every two years, 1/3 of the Senate is elected to a 6-year term.

[Drunken Irishman]

21. It's possible the sun will blow up tomorrow.

The reality is that, poll after poll, shows these people are a very vocal minority.

[PortTack]

7. I wouldn't buy what the m$m is putting out about the VA gov race!

They always want to make it a horse race

A few indicators
Voting is up from ‘17. When voter turn out is high, we WIN!
VA vote total estimates: Dems voting 54.7%, gqp 30.4%

[Bleacher Creature]

8. Yes. That's why Republicans are so focused on limiting access to the ballot box.

[stillcool]

9. More? if you're going by dollars...yes.

if you're going by people...no. There is a reason why so many states want to limit participation in elections. If they thought for a second they might be able to win when Americans vote, they wouldn't be pulling this shit, and they've been pulling this shit for decades. My God, the frigging media, especially televised versions is disgustingly unwatchable. What's happened in this country is disgustingly unwatchable. I wouldn't worry about Virginia, unless you live there. If that's the case you have the power to do something.

[Blaukraut]

10. Yes. But they're louder and meaner, so they get all the attention n/t

[Baked Potato]

11. Yes, and they are terrified. That's why they do everything except govern.

The MSM always wants controversy and horse races. That skews the truth.

[budkin]

13. Absolutely

See the popular vote in 2020

[Hamlette]

18. yes

playing bridge with some new players (friends of friends) last week when they start ranting about how crazy the right is. These people fit the mold of old school Republicans: retired doctors, yet everyone of them hate the GOP and are very liberal.

And I'm in a bright red state.

[brooklynite]

25. "Narrative" (assuming you're talking about the media) is focused on what's different...

How much news reporting focuses on the 99 days without unusual weather vs the 1 day with a tornado or hurricane?

[KentuckyWoman]

29. Human survival instinct is focus on the negative.

We are hard wired to notice what can hurt us. Add media, traditional and social both, to repeat the negative over and over and over ... it take no time at all for it to seem like shitheads are everywhere.

Social media just makes it even worse for us because of the dynamic of the "engagement algorithms".

[Skittles]

30. yes

think of it this way - the humpers were shocked, SHOCKED that Biden won - how could he, they ask, look at how many people came to Trump rallies......we're not as DERANGED as they are, so they do tend to get more attention, we are not a CULT