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multigraincracker

(32,674 posts)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 03:24 AM Oct 2021

Supreme Court Justices Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett side with liberal justices, decline to



https://www.yahoo.com/news/supreme-court-justices-brett-kavanaugh-030349167.html

In a ruling Friday, the Supreme Court declined to block Maine from requiring vaccine mandates for healthcare workers who object on religious grounds.

Maine requires all healthcare workers to be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 and does not grant religious exemptions.

A group of healthcare workers sought an emergency order from the Supreme Court that would block the requirement for those with religious objections.

The court voted 6-3, with conservative Justices John Roberts and Trump-appointees Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett siding with the liberal justices.

How about them apples?
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Supreme Court Justices Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett side with liberal justices, decline to (Original Post) multigraincracker Oct 2021 OP
Well, rights is rights, so you celebrate while you can. TreasonousBastard Oct 2021 #1
Just shows that they have a smidgen of common sense. Haggard Celine Oct 2021 #2
or, they want to toss some easy bones Skittles Oct 2021 #4
Oh, they're terrible. No doubt about that. Haggard Celine Oct 2021 #5
The article suggest they weren't really ruling on the merits Shrek Oct 2021 #11
So they wanted to make a big case of it so they Haggard Celine Oct 2021 #12
Why would a health care worker object to getting vaccinated? calimary Oct 2021 #3
Don't cheer too loudly. They were right, but this was a freebie. It cost them nothing. DFW Oct 2021 #6
This lapsed Catholic agrees. They're playing the long game. harumph Oct 2021 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Oct 2021 #7
Is the trend that the SC isn't going to block laws anymore? Buckeyeblue Oct 2021 #8
Both a Slippery Slope and multigraincracker Oct 2021 #9
This really isn't a left - right issue edhopper Oct 2021 #10

Haggard Celine

(16,844 posts)
2. Just shows that they have a smidgen of common sense.
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 03:46 AM
Oct 2021

If they can make health workers get other shots, why couldn't they make them get Covid shots? And why is this vaccine such a big deal to these health workers? It has nothing to do with religion; it's about politics. Owning the Libs isn't a good enough reason for people to refuse the shots.

Skittles

(153,150 posts)
4. or, they want to toss some easy bones
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 04:07 AM
Oct 2021

I'm not willing to give those assholes the benefit of the doubt.

Haggard Celine

(16,844 posts)
5. Oh, they're terrible. No doubt about that.
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 04:13 AM
Oct 2021

Just wait until the decision on the Mississippi abortion case. I have a feeling it's going to be ugly.

Shrek

(3,977 posts)
11. The article suggest they weren't really ruling on the merits
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 10:16 AM
Oct 2021
Barrett, joined by Kavanaugh in a concurring opinion, briefly remarked on their decision to block the request, citing the fact that the case was brought on the shadow docket, or as an emergency appeal. Shadow docket cases do not involve oral arguments or full rulings that are part of normal cases.

Barrett said the shadow docket should not be used for such a case, and that the court should not make this decision "on a short fuse without benefit of full briefing and oral argument," implying she and Kavanaugh could vote differently if the case came before the court in a different way.

Haggard Celine

(16,844 posts)
12. So they wanted to make a big case of it so they
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 10:41 AM
Oct 2021

could make a landmark decision on religious rights? I guess they're signaling to the religious nuts that they want to hear those cases about religious people refusing services to gay people and other similar cases. We're going to have to add some seats to the Supreme Court, it looks like. It's that or we have to put up with Kavanaugh and Barrett making a mockery of the Constitution and civil rights. But it's going to be hard to get a Congress that will take that on.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
3. Why would a health care worker object to getting vaccinated?
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 04:03 AM
Oct 2021

For ANY reason?

Religious “reasons”?!? Oh for Pete’s sake…

Then they should find another profession.

DFW

(54,358 posts)
6. Don't cheer too loudly. They were right, but this was a freebie. It cost them nothing.
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 05:32 AM
Oct 2021

Saying "religious" grounds prevent them from trying to provide the best possible health care is so over the top that the 3 Republican justices could easily side with the patients, and not ruffle too many right wing feathers.

The law made no attempt whatsoever to interfere with their religion or their freedom to practice it. It only said their religion couldn't be used as an excuse to endanger the patients whose protection was their primary professional consideration. It's a narrow issue that I think provides the three justices plenty of cover to allow religious discrimination in favor of Christian fanatics in other situations.

Alito and Thomas, as usual, form the core of the faction that believes that no outrage justified on religious grounds goes so far as to exceed the protection thereof by the first amendment. I don't see this as a "win" so much as a case of Opus Dei keeping their powder dry.

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Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
8. Is the trend that the SC isn't going to block laws anymore?
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 09:06 AM
Oct 2021

What does a religious exemption look like? That seems to me to be the problem. And I think that is a problem with all religious exemptions. Believe what you want. But you have to follow the law.

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