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MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 11:40 AM Oct 2021

I Really Can't Comment on the Virginia Gubernatorial Election

I live halfway across the country from there, so I don't have any valid insights into the election. I've been watching poll results, of course, but have no real idea about how those polls were done. I can't vote in Virginia, either.

What does all that mean? It means that I have to wait until Tuesday's election is over and all the votes have been counted. I hope it tilts to elect the Democratic candidate, but I have no idea if that will happen. This is one that is too hard to predict, really.

However, I am reminded a bit by the recall election of Governor Newsom in California. Lots of people were fearful about that one, too. I do know a little about California politics, since I lived there for 55+ years. I wasn't worried. As I expected, Newson kept his job.

What will happen in Virginia? I don't know, and nothing in the media helps me. So, I'll wait and see. I do know it's going to be somewhat important as we look toward 2022. I hope it goes our way.

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MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
3. Yes, I suppose so.
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 11:50 AM
Oct 2021

I'm not fretting too much about VA, but it's on my mind. I wish I knew more, but there's not a lot of help from the media.

My sense is that Democrats will carry the state. Early voting number seem to indicate that there is strong Democratic support from Virginians, at least in early voting. However, Election Day voting might bring out Republicans. Might. I just don't know.

stopdiggin

(11,292 posts)
7. two things w/ Newsom
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 12:07 PM
Oct 2021

1) The 'scare' headlines were mostly well in advance (a month?) of the actual vote. By the time the date rolled around - done deal. And so were the projections.
and 2) CA is predominantly and heavily Democratic - leaving the only real question being voter turnout for an off year recall/election. But - CA is also an automatic ballot in the mail, vote by mail (or however else you want to) system - thereby making it dead easy for all registered voters to participate.

Vote by mail works! Works well. And the idea that we need to keep the exercise of franchise difficult, onerous or cumbersome in order to 'protect the process' - is a recent undemocratic invention - by a movement that has show itself to be, at best, indifferent to democratic process.

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
12. By two days before the recall, "remain" was up by almost 20 points in some polls
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 01:12 PM
Oct 2021

The panic had long since subsided.

These polls are much closer and have been moving in the wrong direction. "Panic" is absolutely warranted - so long as "panic" means "I'm calling all of my VA friends and family and making sure that they get out to vote!" rather than "I'm curled up in a ball waiting for the end to come"

question everything

(47,462 posts)
2. The one who would have replaced Newsome was clearly a Trumpist. In VA he has
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 11:50 AM
Oct 2021

managed to distance himself, even though trump did endorse him.

Also Critical Race Theory, even though not taught in VA is now the “Defund the Police” that caused the loss os so many Democratic seats last year.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
4. Well Racism Certainly Has an Influence in Virginia Politics.
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 11:52 AM
Oct 2021

Despite its slightly blue color, the more rural parts of Virginia are still the "Old South." What will election day turnout look like? I have no idea.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
6. That's my hope, for sure.
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 11:58 AM
Oct 2021

Maybe a good, strong win in VA will slow down the doom-and-gloom crowd a little.

Deep State Witch

(10,422 posts)
8. You can do phone banking
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 12:16 PM
Oct 2021

If you want to help, my friend and coven-mate who is in Virginia says to go to https://www.mobilize.us/terryforvirginia/ and sign up to do phone banking. It can be done from anywhere in the country.

JohnSJ

(92,116 posts)
9. When the survey USA showed Newsom getting recalled by 11 points, this A rated pollster
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 12:47 PM
Oct 2021

sure worried a lot of people

It was about Turnout, and that made the difference

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
13. That was a month and a half before the vote
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 01:14 PM
Oct 2021

The same pollster had two later polls showing "remain" winning solidly.

JohnSJ

(92,116 posts)
14. They messed up on their criteria for "likely voters", and they issued a mea culpa
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 02:06 PM
Oct 2021

regarding that

The only way here in California that the recall would have passed, is if we didn’t turnout, and that wasn’t the case, along with the fact that mail-in voting was sent to every registered voter with a postage paid stamp which implicitly increased turnout, along with the early votin

Though California is much different than Virginia, I am hoping the early voting moves the needle toward us







question everything

(47,462 posts)
11. Also, McAuliffe really really was hoping for the vote in Congress to pass. To show that Democrats
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 01:06 PM
Oct 2021

can get things done.

Will a vote on Monday achieve this?

JohnSJ

(92,116 posts)
15. I think the vote is supposed to happen on Tuesday. However, I think that is too late to help
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 02:09 PM
Oct 2021

us in Virginia regardless. We had six months to hammer something down, and it didn’t happen.

This will have an impact on the 2022 election I believe

W_HAMILTON

(7,853 posts)
16. I'm not nearly as worried about Virginia as everyone else is either.
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 02:21 PM
Oct 2021

I don't live there now, so unfortunately I can't vote in the upcoming election, but I did live there when it was changing from a purple state to more of a blue state. I'm not that worried. I think Democrats in Virginia have done an incredible job leading the state over the past few years and I don't think there are enough that want to see it revert into a Florida-wannabe cesspool with Republican leadership.

honest.abe

(8,659 posts)
17. If VA Dems realize this is a critical election and they need to show up to win this..
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 04:49 PM
Oct 2021

then Terry will win. Im getting the feeling that they are and they will or already have. Cautiously optimistic.

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