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Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:31 AM

Dave Wasserman just called it!!!! Phil Murphy defeats Jack Ciattarelli


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Reply Dave Wasserman just called it!!!! Phil Murphy defeats Jack Ciattarelli (Original post)
JoanofArgh Nov 2021 OP
Celerity Nov 2021 #1
Hulk Nov 2021 #21
JoanofArgh Nov 2021 #2
malaise Nov 2021 #3
c-rational Nov 2021 #4
Lemon Lyman Nov 2021 #5
bamagal62 Nov 2021 #15
piddyprints Nov 2021 #30
LenaBaby61 Nov 2021 #32
bearsfootball516 Nov 2021 #6
JoanofArgh Nov 2021 #7
Greybnk48 Nov 2021 #13
calimary Nov 2021 #25
JohnSJ Nov 2021 #8
Zambero Nov 2021 #9
Klaralven Nov 2021 #11
Zambero Nov 2021 #14
BarackTheVote Nov 2021 #22
Klaralven Nov 2021 #24
ramapo Nov 2021 #31
Calista241 Nov 2021 #10
fishwax Nov 2021 #12
Tomconroy Nov 2021 #16
Fla Dem Nov 2021 #17
calimary Nov 2021 #27
bucolic_frolic Nov 2021 #18
keldridge Nov 2021 #19
ColinC Nov 2021 #20
LenaBaby61 Nov 2021 #34
Traildogbob Nov 2021 #23
kansasobama Nov 2021 #26
JoanofArgh Nov 2021 #29
LenaBaby61 Nov 2021 #35
JustAnotherGen Nov 2021 #28
nattyice Nov 2021 #33
Dystopian Optimist Nov 2021 #36

Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:34 AM

1. Dodged a bullet there.

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Response to Celerity (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 11:07 AM

21. Way too close for what it should have been...

 

....but then I don't know Jersey politics at all.

I do know McAuliffe slit his own throat with so many dumb moves.....giving the gop a lift and win in a state that went Biden +10.

In my opinion, he was a warm over "Clintonite", and had as much charisma as wet toast. Congress fucking around with Biden's signature infrastructure bills made more fodder for youngkin.

Get the bills passed. Make it clear...WE CAN DO SO MUCH MORE AND BIGGER with Democratic majorities in Congress. Our hands are tied behind our backs with sinema and manchin...BUT THEY GIVE US THE RAZOR THIN MAJORITY WE NEED.

Get done what we can...NOW! And come back for more in 2022 when we can have two Senators vote against us. This is our chance. The cult and gQp are licking their chops.

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Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:34 AM

2. Some facts:


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First time since 1985 that NJ elected a governor from the same party as the sitting President. And the first time a Dem governor won re-election since 1977.

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Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:39 AM

3. Get thee to the greatest page

Great news

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Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:40 AM

4. Thank you, wonderful news.

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Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:41 AM

5. Nice!

I'm sure this won't matter though. Only VA will matter out there in the media-sphere. Murphy didn't "win right" or something.

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Response to Lemon Lyman (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 10:09 AM

15. This. We won't hear hardly a peep

about NJ.

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Response to Lemon Lyman (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 11:56 AM

30. This.

^^^^

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Response to Lemon Lyman (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 12:22 PM

32. Guess chuck toad will say "How embarassing that a Dem barely won NJ" or some crap like that.

I don't watch him, but I can kind of imagine what a bothsiderism hack like him would say though.

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Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:42 AM

6. Glad he won, but even his win is a five alarm fire.

Ciattarelli made is a million times closer than it should have been.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:47 AM

7. NJ hasn't re-elected a Dem Governor since 1977 so it would have been busness as

usual if Murphy lost.

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Response to JoanofArgh (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 10:05 AM

13. True. People need to know that. This is HUGE for Dems! n/t

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 11:44 AM

25. Indeed.

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Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:48 AM

8. Thanks and good. Wasserman only comments when he is confident

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Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:48 AM

9. So with two close Governor's races, score tied 1-1

NJ broke a long-standing precedent in re-electing Murphy. Virginia maintained its off-year precedent of alternating between D and R. Dems did manage two consecutive terms there, and with a stronger less gaffe-prone candidate it could have been three in a row.

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Response to Zambero (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:54 AM

11. NJ wasn't supposed to be close. Polls had Murphy ahead by 8%.

 

The polling that showed Youngkin up by 2% was accurate.

The NJ polls were not.

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Response to Klaralven (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 10:06 AM

14. The polls are one thing

As are the margins of error in their sampling. The relative success (or otherwise) of GOTV and how undecided's split often tell a different story when evaluating the final results. Still one wonders, in the current political climate, how Gavin Newsum actually over-performed polling expectations in California, even beyond his initial margin of victory. The strength or weakness of candidates still seems to matter.

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Response to Klaralven (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 11:19 AM

22. I think the problem with polls is

that they’re just not reaching young people. It’s just kind of assumed that Millennials and Zoomers are progressive as a cohort, but I think a not inconsiderable number of them have been red-pilled by things like Gamer Gate and the Incel “movement” (as it were). Irony-poisoned dead-enders who skew anarchist or fascist, every sign of progressivism or inclusion seen as a direct attack on the privileges their white cis parents enjoyed, privileges they want to safeguard for themselves.

I think the one thing I can say for my generation and the younger generation is that the income insecurity that has plagued us since the Bush era has radicalized a lot of us toward the extreme wings of the political spectrum. Do with that what you will.

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Response to BarackTheVote (Reply #22)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 11:42 AM

24. Lots of the younger cohorts don't have wireline phone or if they do, let all calls go to voice mail

 

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Response to Klaralven (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 11:59 AM

31. I live in NJ

There were a ton of Jack signs… Murphy signs were rare. The anti-maskers were very motivated. And then there is the property tax issue. Murphy made a dumb remark and Jack made the most of it

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Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:49 AM

10. If it's a Repub +8 year, we're in big trouble.

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Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 10:00 AM

12. thank God ... much closer than it should have been

I wasn't particularly worried, but it still shouldn't have been this close. I think a lot of voters just took it for granted that Murphy would win. Turnout where I am (Hudson County) certainly seemed low at all the polling places I went by, but then the actual returns didn't actually look down from 2017, so maybe a lot of people just voted by mail.

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Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 10:13 AM

16. A win is a win. Champagne for everyone!

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Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 10:44 AM

17. This turned into a nail biter I didn't think was supposed to be.

I knew the Va one was up for grabs, but thought NJ was pretty safe. Glad it turned out the way it did.

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Response to Fla Dem (Reply #17)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 11:46 AM

27. It wasn't supposed to be a nail biter.

The republi-CON wasn’t expected to get even close.

But I’m glad at least we saved one governorship.

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Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 10:48 AM

18. A win is a win

Democrats in NJ moved left with some progressive ideas, and Murphy really altered the budget and fiscal problems from what little I heard.

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Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 10:53 AM

19. So pleased

As a long time NJ resident I am very relieved to hear this.

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Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 10:59 AM

20. If all that is left are the mail ballots, I really don't think it is going to end up close at all

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Response to ColinC (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 12:24 PM

34. I think I read that all there is are mail-in ballots remaining in NJ.

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Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 11:22 AM

23. My teeth hurt

From biting bullets in elections. With 70 percent of us not trumpers, this is ridiculous. Fuck you media. You are No more than a Wet Fox version of propaganda. (News ???) Watered down more than a whisky at a red neck rebel bar next to an airport at 20 minute before closing at 2:00 AM.
Thanks for the Murphy news. We are very close to the states needed to rewrite the constitution. These Governors are critical. With the GQP Terrorist, we will soon not be biting bullets, we will be catching them all over our bodies.

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Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 11:44 AM

26. You sure - realclearpolitics has GOP up with 97% in

Hope you are correct

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Response to kansasobama (Reply #26)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 11:53 AM

29. I didn't make the stats , Dave Wasserman did based on stats.

He is correct.

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Response to kansasobama (Reply #26)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 12:25 PM

35. Realclear Politics. Okay.

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Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 11:51 AM

28. 12:42 12% of Votes

Remain uncounted.

Phil has 'got this' - but lets not take our eyes off the prize just yet. Essex county is critical - and we begin curing ballots this afternoon through Saturday.

We may not know until Saturday.

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Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 12:22 PM

33. Good, now all those "Jack" signs can go in the landfill where they belong

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Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 12:37 PM

36. Kornacki, about an hour ago

 

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