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Give me a MotherFucking break!?!?!?!?! (Original Post) Scottie Mom Nov 2021 OP
I hope jurors are paying attdntion SheltieLover Nov 2021 #1
They have him programmed...and the problem with that? Scottie Mom Nov 2021 #2
Yup SheltieLover Nov 2021 #28
Not The Way Things Went During Prosecution's Presentation SoCalDavidS Nov 2021 #5
The rot runs very deep SheltieLover Nov 2021 #29
Interesting. Kingofalldems Nov 2021 #36
Coached by his lawyer Mz Pip Nov 2021 #3
BADLY coached. Scottie Mom Nov 2021 #4
I'll delete my thread Chille Nov 2021 #6
Don't delete. Scottie Mom Nov 2021 #7
I just did Chille Nov 2021 #9
It wasn't concern, it was support. You showed empathy, something magats lack. Welcome to DU. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2021 #46
He put himself in a situation where he could murder people BlueIdaho Nov 2021 #8
Exactly. EOM Scottie Mom Nov 2021 #10
Exactly Sunsky Nov 2021 #12
Bingo. He went there for exactly that opportunity. KPN Nov 2021 #48
You can tell that was rehearsed Beachnutt Nov 2021 #11
Ya think??? Where were the tears?? Lotsa emotion under prompted guidance BUT NO TEARS. a kennedy Nov 2021 #13
other than the tears, it was pretty convincing Amishman Nov 2021 #20
He is a very unlikable little twerp world wide wally Nov 2021 #14
Whiny voice and self-pittying. Scottie Mom Nov 2021 #16
I'm looking forward to the cross examination. greatauntoftriplets Nov 2021 #15
Ditto... Scottie Mom Nov 2021 #17
Yup, but I'm sure he practiced alot. zanana1 Nov 2021 #18
Real tears for a change. Scottie Mom Nov 2021 #19
Hard to do all those good works wryter2000 Nov 2021 #21
I think the judge should have recused himself. zanana1 Nov 2021 #35
Disgusting Duncanpup Nov 2021 #22
Um... I'd like to tell him that he can go fuck his feelings. Initech Nov 2021 #23
I am breaking my 8 year old grandson of doing that. gab13by13 Nov 2021 #24
I'm willing to bet that your grandson is more convincing Orrex Nov 2021 #40
Agree. He should be a Hollywood actor. iluvtennis Nov 2021 #25
The judge should be on the defense payroll Beachnutt Nov 2021 #26
Agree. EOM Scottie Mom Nov 2021 #27
Why do you think he isn't? soldierant Nov 2021 #53
Any bets about Rittenhouse crying as he was at the bar, drinking beer, after the killings? keithbvadu2 Nov 2021 #30
They rehearsed this many times no doubt. Jon King Nov 2021 #31
IMO, it would be a mistrial and I am betting if this happens... Scottie Mom Nov 2021 #32
He's going to get off. BannonsLiver Nov 2021 #33
Not sure if he will get off... Scottie Mom Nov 2021 #34
Horrible thought. Codifer Nov 2021 #38
I'm inclined to agree with you. TexasTowelie Nov 2021 #42
Yes, unfortunately that's what it may come down to. BannonsLiver Nov 2021 #47
Was the gun pointed at him before he fired his KPN Nov 2021 #50
I think the last person that was shot was the one that was armed with a gun Hav Nov 2021 #51
The judge is not on the prosecutor side left-of-center2012 Nov 2021 #37
And if the kid does get off scoff free, Sogo Nov 2021 #39
Did anyone catch him glancing at the jury during his fake crying? tiredtoo Nov 2021 #41
I never knew people did that...."cry" without tears until I watched true crime shows. Peregrine Took Nov 2021 #43
After watching the video, a few things stand out. . . littlemissmartypants Nov 2021 #44
You are so right, there were NO tears vapor2 Nov 2021 #45
He too cute for prison toughtony Nov 2021 #49
He will become a darling of white supremacists Hav Nov 2021 #52
I hope someone makes a video with Trumpunk dancing and Shittinhouse crying traitorsgalore Nov 2021 #54

Scottie Mom

(5,812 posts)
2. They have him programmed...and the problem with that?
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 12:25 PM
Nov 2021

If he goes off script, it all falls apart.

Hoping he crumples like a dry dog turd.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
5. Not The Way Things Went During Prosecution's Presentation
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 12:27 PM
Nov 2021

Nor given the jury makeup.

My prediction is he'll be acquitted before Thanksgiving, and on a MAGA speaking tour by Spring.

Scottie Mom

(5,812 posts)
4. BADLY coached.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 12:27 PM
Nov 2021

The suit, the trimmed hair are bad enough. But...words that an 18 year old usually does not use? Rings false IMO.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
8. He put himself in a situation where he could murder people
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 12:30 PM
Nov 2021

He has no soul, no conscience, no grief. He is guilty as hell.

Sunsky

(1,737 posts)
12. Exactly
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 12:39 PM
Nov 2021

A lady on court tv said the judge did the right thing because the jury should not have to listen to "this poor man crying." WTF? Two men are not present to share their emotions because of "this poor man." Fck him and fck her. I quickly switched channels.

Amishman

(5,555 posts)
20. other than the tears, it was pretty convincing
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 12:59 PM
Nov 2021

Jury is a little bit away, not sure how they will perceive it

zanana1

(6,110 posts)
18. Yup, but I'm sure he practiced alot.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 12:54 PM
Nov 2021

His testimony is making me laugh. First, he cleans graffiti off a wall, then he helped someone who was hurt, then he put out fires, then he was threatened so he feared for his life. I'm surprised he didn't save a puppy!
I can't wait till the prosecution gets his hands on him. I think there will be alot of crying then.

zanana1

(6,110 posts)
35. I think the judge should have recused himself.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 01:55 PM
Nov 2021

Screaming at the prosecutor in front of the jury just isn't done.

keithbvadu2

(36,774 posts)
30. Any bets about Rittenhouse crying as he was at the bar, drinking beer, after the killings?
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 01:38 PM
Nov 2021

Any bets about Rittenhouse crying as he was at the bar, drinking beer, after the killings?

Probably bragging about it.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=rittenhouse+drinking+ber

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
31. They rehearsed this many times no doubt.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 01:38 PM
Nov 2021

They have a very good plan unfortunately, there will likely be at least 1 juror that will not convict. He either gets off or a hung jury.

Scottie Mom

(5,812 posts)
32. IMO, it would be a mistrial and I am betting if this happens...
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 01:41 PM
Nov 2021

...the State would go forward on another trial.

Scottie Mom

(5,812 posts)
34. Not sure if he will get off...
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 01:50 PM
Nov 2021

...but it does appear that the Judge has is finger on the scales of justice.

Codifer

(545 posts)
38. Horrible thought.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 02:21 PM
Nov 2021

I also figure that he will skate. I do not think that this judge is either fair or impartial.

If he is found not guilty, it will be a horrible precedent that will give a wink and a nod to all the gun porn wannabe killers.... and I fear that there are many of them.

We, all of us, will be in much greater danger.

I just turned 77. How do I prepare?

TexasTowelie

(112,114 posts)
42. I'm inclined to agree with you.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 03:07 PM
Nov 2021

I haven't kept up with every detail, but from what I understand one of the people testifying said that a gun was pointed at Rittenhouse. If what I heard is correct, then it becomes a matter of self-defense and the remainder of the issues leading up to the shootings becomes irrelevant. I don't like that Rittenhouse will avoid any punishment, but I think that the cake has already been baked.

KPN

(15,642 posts)
50. Was the gun pointed at him before he fired his
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 03:27 PM
Nov 2021

weapon? I think it was the 2nd person he shot who wielded a weapon. But will this jury make that distinction? Is this jury unbiased? Will this jury be swayed by the judge’s obvious bias?

Hav

(5,969 posts)
51. I think the last person that was shot was the one that was armed with a gun
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 03:33 PM
Nov 2021

Nonetheless, shootings of the victims 2 and 3 on their own can be reasonable seen as self-defense I think but I don't know enough about the circumstances that led to the first shooting.
Sadly, I too think he'll not get convicted for murder and he'll become a wealthy rightwing celebrity because he killed people.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
37. The judge is not on the prosecutor side
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 02:14 PM
Nov 2021

He's doing everything he can to support the defense.
I look for this kid to get off with murder scott free

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
39. And if the kid does get off scoff free,
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 02:32 PM
Nov 2021

watch for Trump to have him on stage with him at his rallies....

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
41. Did anyone catch him glancing at the jury during his fake crying?
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 03:00 PM
Nov 2021

My thoughts are he was checking to see if jury was buying his act.

Peregrine Took

(7,413 posts)
43. I never knew people did that...."cry" without tears until I watched true crime shows.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 03:09 PM
Nov 2021

Its a thing that cops always look for. While some can do it,most people cannot produce tears unless they are truly sad or contrite about something.

littlemissmartypants

(22,631 posts)
44. After watching the video, a few things stand out. . .
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 03:15 PM
Nov 2021

Nonverbal signs of deception

Face touching
Blink rate increase after a statement
He's suppressing a smile for most of his responses.

Also,

The fake cry doesn't make me feel sympathetic but it does repulse me. It could have that effect on members of the jury.

Anyone who has cared for a child, caught being naughty, will recognize that manufactured remorse.

Defense has requested a mistrial with prejudice.

vapor2

(1,244 posts)
45. You are so right, there were NO tears
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 03:15 PM
Nov 2021

as e squinched his face and I was wondering when anyone would call this out.

toughtony

(88 posts)
49. He too cute for prison
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 03:22 PM
Nov 2021

His lawyer knows he looks like a little kid. So they're playing that angle. Now he's crying like a cute little boy who could do no harm.

FACTS: THAT LITTLE CREEP HAD NO BUSINESS IN THE STATE. HE WENT THERE, WITH AN AK-47, LOOKING FOR A FIGHT AND HE FOUND ONE. HE HAD NO BUSINESS THERE. THOSE MEN WOULD STILL BE ALIVE HAD HE NOT BEEN THERE. NOW HE WANTS TO BE A WHITE SUPREMISTS HERO.

And everyone in that courtroom knows full well that he is guilty but instead of conviction, they're going to send him home to his racist mamma who gave him the gun in the first place.

"Look at him, he's so cute, we can't send that poor kid to prison!"

Hav

(5,969 posts)
52. He will become a darling of white supremacists
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 03:44 PM
Nov 2021

but we also have to be careful with the facts. It seems he payed for the gun himself through a friend. And whether we like it or not, he was as much entitled to be there after curfew as the protestors.
The jury understands very well that the killed persons would have likely not been shot that night without Rittenhouse being there. But they'll also be presented with the story that they'd also be alive if they hadn't engaged Rittenhouse or charged at him with a skateboard.

traitorsgalore

(1,396 posts)
54. I hope someone makes a video with Trumpunk dancing and Shittinhouse crying
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 07:08 PM
Nov 2021

Maybe put that white cat in there too, LOL!

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