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Jilly_in_VA

(9,941 posts)
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 01:16 PM Nov 2021

Parents protesting 'critical race theory' identify a new target: Mental health programs

At a September school board meeting in Southlake, Texas, a parent named Tara Eddins strode to the lectern during the public comment period and demanded to know why the Carroll Independent School District was paying counselors “at $90K a pop” to give students lessons on suicide prevention.

“At Carroll ISD, you are actually advertising suicide,” Eddins said, arguing that many parents in the affluent suburban school system have hired tutors because the district’s counselors are too focused on mental health instead of helping students prepare for college.

“Some of these kids, they’re just trying to get through the day, get through compacted math, get through algebra, go to cotillion on Sunday,” Eddins said. “They are not thinking about these issues.”

Two days after Eddins made the remarks, Southlake Families PAC — a group that has fought to stop a diversity plan at Carroll — sent an email to supporters calling on the school district to “Leave mental health and parenting to parents.”

Christina Edmiston, a Southlake resident and mother of two, was outraged when she saw the email. Earlier that month, Edmiston had pulled her 12-year-old son out of the Carroll district after he reported thoughts of suicide after having been bullied by classmates for his sexuality.

“You can’t expect just to teach kids arithmetic and reading and look at their test scores and expect them to be decent human beings,” Edmiston said. “I personally cannot understand why a parent would not want their children to have knowledge of what depression looks like, what anxiety looks like.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/parents-protesting-critical-race-theory-identify-new-target-mental-hea-rcna4991

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Parents protesting 'critical race theory' identify a new target: Mental health programs (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Nov 2021 OP
Wow. They really hate their children iemanja Nov 2021 #1
I'm embarrassed to say I lived in Southlake, TX from 1989 to 1991. I paid property taxes that sinkingfeeling Nov 2021 #2
I paid into Keller ISD bluecollar2 Nov 2021 #5
Recommended. H2O Man Nov 2021 #3
The rabid protestor kooks I_UndergroundPanther Nov 2021 #11
You nailed it! H2O Man Nov 2021 #14
Thanks H2O man I_UndergroundPanther Nov 2021 #15
How come they never bring up multigraincracker Nov 2021 #4
As someone who used to see kids in therapy I can attest nolabear Nov 2021 #6
"Leave mental health and parenting to parents." Wounded Bear Nov 2021 #10
Murder party. That's what they are. Fucking evil pigs. onecaliberal Nov 2021 #7
... Solly Mack Nov 2021 #8
"go to cotillion on Sunday" Ohio Joe Nov 2021 #9
That struck me too. geardaddy Nov 2021 #17
Sunday? Jilly_in_VA Nov 2021 #21
It is so obvious that these "parents groups" are right wing troll operations tenderfoot Nov 2021 #12
Texas is really messed up. rockfordfile Nov 2021 #13
Mental health? ShazzieB Nov 2021 #16
The picture in the article has Eddins geardaddy Nov 2021 #18
I'm sure a gay student would.... NowISeetheLight Nov 2021 #19
I totally agree. Leave. Pull out. Leave them to manage it all themselves. harumph Nov 2021 #20
Did y'all miss Jilly_in_VA Nov 2021 #22
Ah, fans of the "If we don't talk about it, it doesn't exist" method Sympthsical Nov 2021 #23
As someone who suffered from depression in childhood shrike3 Nov 2021 #24

sinkingfeeling

(51,438 posts)
2. I'm embarrassed to say I lived in Southlake, TX from 1989 to 1991. I paid property taxes that
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 01:21 PM
Nov 2021

supported that school district.

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
3. Recommended.
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 01:21 PM
Nov 2021

My younger son is employed at one of the better schools in our region. He deals with student crises daily. Even in a medium-sized school, students have serious problems, and his days are almost always full of serious cases.

By no coincidence, many of those issues confronting students are connected with parenting issues. That doesn't mean these parents are all "bad" people. It does suggest they have a lack of parenting skills. And those parents frequently are not comfortable with the school assisting those students navigate through their crises.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,462 posts)
11. The rabid protestor kooks
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 02:37 PM
Nov 2021

Want to get away with abusing kids,and they wanna make sure there is no way for them to get help or freedom from evil nasty narcissistic abusive homes.

They want to dominate their kids and never be accountable for abuse.

Also the maga men want the same abusive
non- accountability

For women and kids.
Some are dark triad,others use that fucking bible to justify thier abusiveness.

The biggest threat to humanity besides global warming are dark triad assholes.

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
14. You nailed it!
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 02:43 PM
Nov 2021

That is no surprise, as you are always on target.

My son's job is harder than mine was, back when I dealt with similar issues. I think that is partly because the kids he deals with today are the children & grandchildren of those I worked with years ago. And I remember some of their parents giving a twisted version of the bible to justify their behaviors.

Thank you. I always appreciate your contributions on this forum.

nolabear

(41,932 posts)
6. As someone who used to see kids in therapy I can attest
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 01:33 PM
Nov 2021

that if parents aren’t sending them voluntarily—and sometimes even if they are—they are very often scared to death about what will come out about them. They are even if it’s not abuse per se, but if it is, the idea of their actions being brought to light are the main fear, not the mental state of the child. They tend to deny that their acts are causing that kind of harm, and feel like victims rather than perpetrators.

There’s also a family dynamic that people are terrified of having disrupted. I actually stopped seeing kids because I couldn’t take it any more. It’s all too frequent for the child to be the “designated patient” rather than the pathological family dynamic being addressed, and when the child (and this always includes teens) starts getting better and not playing their role, the parents jerk them out of treatment.

Those school counsellors are often the only hope for kids in horrible, or even just miserable, situations. If they lose that, the suicide rate, not to mention drug use, violence, victimization by predators, and a host of other nightmares will escalate.

Wounded Bear

(58,598 posts)
10. "Leave mental health and parenting to parents."
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 01:58 PM
Nov 2021

Was about to say, if parents were doing all that great of a job the school wouldn't need psych counselors.

But of course that is the point. Like you said, too many families hide in "don't air your dirty laundry in public" mode, and children suffer and grow up to be dysfunctional adults, thus perpetuating the cycle.

Solly Mack

(90,758 posts)
8. ...
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 01:47 PM
Nov 2021
“The schools are too dangerous,” Miller told the audience, according to a video of the meeting posted online. “They are doing exactly what they were designed to do. They’re not broken. When you go back and you look at the history of public education, it’s doing exactly what it was designed to do, which was to take our system down from within.”



Alrighty then.



Jilly_in_VA

(9,941 posts)
21. Sunday?
Tue Nov 16, 2021, 10:36 AM
Nov 2021

Well, obviously they're not good Christians. Every Christian Texan knows that Sunday is for CHURCH...morning AND evening.

I'll see myself out.

tenderfoot

(8,425 posts)
12. It is so obvious that these "parents groups" are right wing troll operations
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 02:39 PM
Nov 2021

funded by Koch, Thiel, Cato...

ShazzieB

(16,273 posts)
16. Mental health?
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 04:23 PM
Nov 2021
"At Carroll ISD, you are actually advertising suicide," Eddins said, arguing that many parents in the affluent suburban school system have hired tutors because the district’s counselors are too focused on mental health instead of helping students prepare for college.


I WISH there had been such a thing as a counselor who cared about mental health in the shitty little high school I graduated from! Maybe I would have actually gotten some help with MY mental health problems.

We had ONE so-called "guidance counselor" who was also the Asst. Principal AND a sports coach. I would have died before trying to talk to him about my depression and paralyzing social anxiety (even if I'd had the words to describe them, which I didn't) . Which is just as well, because I know he would have been worse than useless.

These parents are actually trying to TAKE AWAY something I would have given anything to have access to in high school. Damn them ALL to hell!

EDITED TO ADD: Also, wtf is "compacted math"? Is that actually a thing, or did that idiot woman just make that up?

NEVER MIND: It IS a thing: https://www.ncmcs.org/academics/mathematics/middle_school_compacted_math
I knew I should have googled first!

geardaddy

(24,926 posts)
18. The picture in the article has Eddins
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 05:18 PM
Nov 2021

wearing an Andrew Yeager T-shirt. Apparently, this nut just won in the school board race there. She and her husband Scott Eddins are listed as endorsers.

https://www.andrewyeager4cisd.com/endorsements-testimonials

NowISeetheLight

(3,943 posts)
19. I'm sure a gay student would....
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 09:49 PM
Nov 2021

… happily want to talk to their religious fanatic Republican parent about sexuality than an impartial school counselor. Yeah right.

harumph

(1,893 posts)
20. I totally agree. Leave. Pull out. Leave them to manage it all themselves.
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 10:19 PM
Nov 2021

For those that don't know Southlake is an extremely affluent district (and extremely conservative) - which means that the
people in the district (for the most part) chose to live in that fucking place. Fuck them.

I've got my own problems to deal with rather than worry about a clown show of clueless entitled shits.

Jilly_in_VA

(9,941 posts)
22. Did y'all miss
Tue Nov 16, 2021, 10:37 AM
Nov 2021

down toward the end of the article where the loudmouth mom says she is now pulling her kid out of public school and sending him to private school? Where, no doubt, she will continue to harass the administration and faculty.

Sympthsical

(9,037 posts)
23. Ah, fans of the "If we don't talk about it, it doesn't exist" method
Tue Nov 16, 2021, 10:46 AM
Nov 2021

A proven method last brought to us successfully with the abstinence only brigade.

Fortunately, teenagers rarely have issues with mental health or suicide.

(hope I don't need a sarcasm thingy)

shrike3

(3,485 posts)
24. As someone who suffered from depression in childhood
Tue Nov 16, 2021, 01:11 PM
Nov 2021

And experienced suicide ideation, we do not need to go back to the days when depression in children was thought an impossibility.
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