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Fri Nov 19, 2021, 01:19 PM

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THAT JURY!!!! THAT ASSHOLE WAS GUILTY AS ALL HELL!!!!!!!

There is NO reason that the that POS Killer walks!!!!

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Reply WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THAT JURY!!!! THAT ASSHOLE WAS GUILTY AS ALL HELL!!!!!!! (Original post)
Scottie Mom Nov 2021 OP
Bettie Nov 2021 #1
Scottie Mom Nov 2021 #2
Bettie Nov 2021 #4
Johnny2X2X Nov 2021 #3
Scottie Mom Nov 2021 #5
Bettie Nov 2021 #7
Hangingon Nov 2021 #20
Zeitghost Nov 2021 #55
Jose Garcia Nov 2021 #32
Bettie Nov 2021 #35
LiberalFighter Nov 2021 #39
Bettie Nov 2021 #43
ecstatic Nov 2021 #38
Amishman Nov 2021 #6
Dave says Nov 2021 #14
Hav Nov 2021 #18
fescuerescue Nov 2021 #24
themaguffin Nov 2021 #8
Scottie Mom Nov 2021 #9
themaguffin Nov 2021 #23
Scottie Mom Nov 2021 #26
themaguffin Nov 2021 #51
Bettie Nov 2021 #37
themaguffin Nov 2021 #52
Cattledog Nov 2021 #10
Hangingon Nov 2021 #21
Hangingon Nov 2021 #22
hamsterjill Nov 2021 #44
JohnQFunk Nov 2021 #11
LonePirate Nov 2021 #12
RegexReader Nov 2021 #28
LonePirate Nov 2021 #29
Happy Hoosier Nov 2021 #13
Dave says Nov 2021 #17
Chuuku Davis Nov 2021 #15
Sugarcoated Nov 2021 #25
Boomerproud Nov 2021 #42
Beachnutt Nov 2021 #16
Patton French Nov 2021 #19
bdamomma Nov 2021 #27
Polybius Nov 2021 #30
Scottie Mom Nov 2021 #31
Polybius Nov 2021 #33
Scottie Mom Nov 2021 #34
Polybius Nov 2021 #36
Scottie Mom Nov 2021 #40
Captain Stern Nov 2021 #41
Scottie Mom Nov 2021 #45
Captain Stern Nov 2021 #46
Scottie Mom Nov 2021 #48
Captain Stern Nov 2021 #50
sarcasmo Nov 2021 #47
Scottie Mom Nov 2021 #49
Skittles Nov 2021 #53
MustLoveBeagles Nov 2021 #54

Response to Scottie Mom (Original post)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 01:19 PM

1. White Supremacy

that's why he's walking.

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Response to Bettie (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 01:20 PM

2. That and gun loving stupidity along with a Trump Humper Judge! EOM

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Response to Scottie Mom (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 01:21 PM

4. Yep.

I wish I could go elsewhere, but few countries want people from the US moving there.

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Response to Bettie (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 01:20 PM

3. The judge was a racist

The judge did not allow a fair trial, every second he was rigging it so the prosecution couldn't make a case.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 01:21 PM

5. Those killed were not "victims?"

What the fuck??????

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 01:22 PM

7. Yeah, hopefully

someone will run against him next time he's up for election. He has run unopposed, but with the WI GOP trying to make elections, well, not actual elections anymore, I guess we'll see.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 01:46 PM

20. Race is not a factor here

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 07:56 PM

55. Please

Provide some evidence of the judges racism? Did he say or do anything racist? If so, what?

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Response to Bettie (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 03:38 PM

32. All of the victims were white

One of the jurors was African-American.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Reply #32)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 04:01 PM

35. And the victims were supporting people who weren't white

protesting the shooting of a black man.

To white supremacists, the worst crime of all is standing up for those who aren't white...being a 'race traitor'.

The fact that they were white was the ONLY reason there was even a trial.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Reply #32)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 04:05 PM

39. Except I believe when the judge had Rittenhouse do a drawing

The black juror was only an alternate.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #39)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 04:12 PM

43. And can you imagine being the only non-white person in

a room full of people eager to let him go free? The one Black person daring to object to a bunch of white people's firmly held belief.

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Response to Bettie (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 04:05 PM

38. +1000. nt

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Response to Scottie Mom (Original post)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 01:22 PM

6. WI 939.48 (2) (b)

WI 939.48

(2) Provocation affects the privilege of self-defense as follows:
(a) A person who engages in unlawful conduct of a type likely to provoke others to attack him or her and thereby does provoke an attack is not entitled to claim the privilege of self-defense against such attack, except when the attack which ensues is of a type causing the person engaging in the unlawful conduct to reasonably believe that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm. In such a case, the person engaging in the unlawful conduct is privileged to act in self-defense, but the person is not privileged to resort to the use of force intended or likely to cause death to the person’s assailant unless the person reasonably believes he or she has exhausted every other reasonable means to escape from or otherwise avoid death or great bodily harm at the hands of his or her assailant.
(b) The privilege lost by provocation may be regained if the actor in good faith withdraws from the fight and gives adequate notice thereof to his or her assailant.
(c) A person who provokes an attack, whether by lawful or unlawful conduct, with intent to use such an attack as an excuse to cause death or great bodily harm to his or her assailant is not entitled to claim the privilege of self-defense.


As soon as it came out that the jury wanted to review the drone video of the Rosenbaum chase, I was pretty certain this would be the outcome. Once KR tried to run and was being chased, nothing that happened before it really mattered given the wording of the relevant statute.

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Response to Amishman (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 01:27 PM

14. Valid point

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Response to Amishman (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 01:31 PM

18. I see your point but I thought the opposite

Edit: Removed my comments regarding self-defense and provocation because I missed that the jury already came back.

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Response to Amishman (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 01:52 PM

24. thanks for the detail

That's a pretty big one right there.

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Response to Scottie Mom (Original post)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 01:22 PM

8. DON'T BLAME THE JURY

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Response to themaguffin (Reply #8)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 01:23 PM

9. The Judge and the Jury IMO

Should have been guilty as all hell.

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Response to Scottie Mom (Reply #9)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 01:51 PM

23. Have you served on a jury?

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Response to themaguffin (Reply #23)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 01:57 PM

26. Yes.

And I have tried numerous jury cases. Why do you ask?

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Response to themaguffin (Reply #23)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 07:23 PM

51. If you served on a jury, you would know that they have to follow parameters of the law

None of sat there.

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Response to themaguffin (Reply #8)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 04:03 PM

37. Why? They were the ones who decided that it was cool

to kill those people.

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Response to Bettie (Reply #37)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 07:24 PM

52. Have you served on a jury?

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Response to Scottie Mom (Original post)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 01:25 PM

10. Another "Zimmerman" jury.

This was jury nullification.

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Response to Cattledog (Reply #10)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 01:47 PM

21. More a Zimmerman prosecution team

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Response to Cattledog (Reply #10)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 01:49 PM

22. More a Zimmerman prosecution team

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Response to Cattledog (Reply #10)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 04:12 PM

44. And Rittenhouse will be just like Zimmerman.

He’ll kill again. Zimmerman has been in altercation after altercation since he was acquitted. Trying to be a smart ass. Rittenhouse will be no different.

Makes me sick to my stomach.

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Response to Scottie Mom (Original post)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 01:26 PM

11. All of the above plus a HUGE LOOPHOLE in Wisconsin law

Drone footage shows the little bigot retreating/fleeing, which under Wisconsin statutes allows him to claim defending himself. Something tells me that the smug little fascist is going to discover that theCosmic Lazy Susan of Karma will not treat him well.

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Response to Scottie Mom (Original post)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 01:26 PM

12. I hope someone interviews the non-white members of the jury to explain the acquittal vote.

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #12)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 02:17 PM

28. ¿Why?

The only POC involved was the man that attempted to kick him in the face while he was on the ground.

Be careful of tampering with jurors, is that the precedent you really want to set?
Example: Want to have the homes of jurors & their families surrounded by armed militia members pointing lasers into the windows 24/7?

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Response to RegexReader (Reply #28)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 02:19 PM

29. There is no tampering after the fact. Juror interviews post trial are quite common in fact.

I believe the non-white jurors will be more honest about the verdict as I suspect the white members will offer a lot of bullshit and racism.

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Response to Scottie Mom (Original post)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 01:27 PM

13. This verdict will result in more dead people.

The message this sends is that it's perfectly legal to go looking for a fight, kill people, and then claim "self defense."

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Response to Happy Hoosier (Reply #13)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 01:30 PM

17. That's my concern. It declares it's "open season" for gun nuts to pursue as they want

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Response to Scottie Mom (Original post)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 01:27 PM

15. 12 people were unanimous

So go the days of our lives.

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Response to Chuuku Davis (Reply #15)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 01:56 PM

25. It's okay....the punk will break the law again. He's stupid, pampered and

entitled. Very likely the next judge won't be a Trump loon. The arc of justice is long but it gets there

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Response to Sugarcoated (Reply #25)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 04:12 PM

42. Repub congresscritters have already offered him internships.

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Response to Scottie Mom (Original post)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 01:27 PM

16. Gun sales will skyrocket now

folks will feel like it is their only defense as murder is legal now

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Response to Scottie Mom (Original post)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 01:38 PM

19. Don't blame the jury

They judge the case that's put before them.

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Response to Scottie Mom (Original post)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 01:58 PM

27. two men killed

by a sick ass jerk who thought his gun "was cool looking".

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Response to Scottie Mom (Original post)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 03:35 PM

30. A jury can only vote "Guilty" if it's beyond a shadow of a doubt

Don't blame the jury, with what was presented to them they may have had little choice.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #30)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 03:38 PM

31. No. Beyond a REASONABLE doubt.

Beyond a shadow of a doubt implies no doubt whatsoever.

IMO, there was no reasonable doubt that Rittenhouse was guilty.

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Response to Scottie Mom (Reply #31)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 03:41 PM

33. Yes true

In this case there was no doubt that he shot three people. The only question was were any justified or not.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #33)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 03:47 PM

34. IMO, one has to be a racist, an idiot, blind to justice or all three to find self defense.

Our Nation, IMO, has become a denizen of sewer dwellers thanks to the RW.

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Response to Scottie Mom (Reply #34)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 04:02 PM

36. I understand what you're saying, but you have to go into a jury with an open mind

Hear all the facts from both sides, and have zero predetermined outcomes. Perhaps they saw something most of us didn't. For the charge against shooting Gaige Grosskreutz in the arm, the jury basically had no choice but to acquit. The others were more complicated.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #36)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 04:06 PM

40. Apparently the Rittenhouse jury did not have open minds. IMO, of course. EOM

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Response to Scottie Mom (Original post)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 04:12 PM

41. Maybe nothing's wrong with the Jury.

The twelve people that heard every bit of evidence presented in the trial. ALL of them were wrong? Every one of them were wrong? How did every single one of them get it wrong...while you got it right, without even being there?

Maybe be they didn't have the benefit of the insight that you had.....you know, random stuff on the Internet.

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Response to Captain Stern (Reply #41)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 04:15 PM

45. I watched the trial. I have tried jury cases.

Your experience is?

No, they did not have the benefit of my insight. Over 30 years of legal experience and trial work.

Hint: Don't assume the person you are posting to has no experience in the field upon which you are commenting.



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Response to Scottie Mom (Reply #45)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 04:26 PM

46. Well, my experience is zero years. So, you have made a good point.

I had absolutely no idea that you had over thirty years of legal experience and trial work.

You should offer up your expertise to the folks in Kenosha.

It sounds like they could use your help.

Or..you could just post here, and complain about the verdict.

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Response to Captain Stern (Reply #46)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 04:36 PM

48. I don't offer my expertise if not asked to do so.

I have plenty of work in Los Angeles county and do not need to look out of state. But, thanks for the suggestion.

BTW: Thanks also for your permission to post here. I don't think I need your permission, but nice of you to give me the right to complain.

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Response to Scottie Mom (Reply #48)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 04:53 PM

50. I can understand that. I apprecciate it. I am asking you to offer up your expertise.

It sounds like you would have a lot to contribute to this community. I'm all in.

I apologize if I gave the impression that I was granting you 'permission' to post. That's never been my permission to give.

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Response to Scottie Mom (Original post)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 04:27 PM

47. The Whites protecting whites.

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Response to sarcasmo (Reply #47)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 04:37 PM

49. RW whites protecting RW whites.

Disgusting.

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Response to Scottie Mom (Original post)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 07:48 PM

53. all they needed was some gun humping racists on the jury

and that was a given

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Response to Scottie Mom (Original post)

Fri Nov 19, 2021, 07:54 PM

54. I had a feeling it would turn out this way

Even before jury selection. Man I really hate being right.

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