William Bryan case

[Smackdown2019]

One, what the Michael's did was awful and Justice did it right in convicting the Michael's. BUT what I saw like everyone else has seen by the trial coverage, I feel this William Bryan should not been charged nor found quilty.

Reason why?

1. What idiot would film a crime that where planning to be malace in a murder?

2. Like most people in this day of age, people see something that warrants a video capture, it happens!

3. The last moments before Mr. Arbery was killed, when he was down the roadway before the curve of the road. Mr. Bryan video taped from a distance. Even though he video tape Mr. Arbery prior and Arbey stopped and turn around, while Bryan had to reposition his vehicle to turn around; Mr. Bryan did not try to run over Arbey.

It looked like he was filming while driving....

How many people could do that and think properly? Think about it.

Another issue, Mr. Bryan Six Amendment right to speedy trial, was infringed and I do believe this would be held on appeal. This is a big deal, year and Half for a speedy trial. Speedy trials suppose to be within reason and Mr. Bryan wanted this trial separated from the Michael's. That was quite evident.

I understand that I will get hate messages over my believe on this and I am sorry to upset.... but what would be the diffence of filming two white guys chasing a black man, but the film maker was a dash cam or another black man?

What it pose, may not be the intended.

As for Michael's... hope they never see the daylight again!

[demtenjeep]

1. he very much should have been found guilty

he became a part of the whole process...driving his truck to help block off the jogger



assessor to the crime.


his judgment was fair

[Smackdown2019]

2. I disagree.

Blocking a jogger by staying on the roadway. A jogger can easy ran around a vehicle and Bryan did not use his vehicle to run over Mr. Arbery...

Michael's.... that was different when they tried to hail Mr Arbery to stop and did get him to stop.

[uponit7771]

5. Brian admits to blocking Abrey path multiple times

[Irish_Dem]

6. Then his actions were part of the murder.

[The Magistrate]

3. Some Mitigation Of Sentence, Perhaps, Sir

He did provide the telling evidence, after all. Unintentional as it was, such fortune should pay a little. He is certainly guilty of the crimes charged.

[moriah]

10. I have a feeling he'll get the opportunity for parole.

I suspect Greg McMichael may also be sentenced to life with the possibility of parole -- truly it will depend on what they bring up that wasn't allowed in front of the jury as aggravating factors, I think. He could also get life without parole if things come up that factor against him.

Unless the state is asking for the death penalty, and I do not believe the state has requested this be a death-penalty case, I believe Travis McMichael will get life without parole.

So I expect 30 years for GM and WRB, and LWOP for TM.

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Just my personal opinion here, but I think if I were Bryan's attorney I would have begged my client to plead to Georgia's "involuntary manslaughter" charge, even if the state demanded the plea be the full 10 years. It's what he could have been charged with if they went with just "reckless conduct" or "simple assault" as the predicate crimes -- essentially a "misdemeanor murder" statute, if a lesser crime than something like aggravated assault substantially contributed to a death.

But the penalty range on that charge is 1-10 years, and if he wouldn't accept the 10, I doubt the state would have pleaded him out.

[uponit7771]

4. Bryan most likely didn't know the other two racist were armed but the law says

... and he goes down with them since he ate them in breaking the law.

He should have told on them as soon as he could

[brush]

7. You're wrong according to Georgia law. The state's attorney explained why in her closing.

If you commit felonies which result in a person being killed, you're guilty of felony murder. Bryan participated in attempted kidnapping, blocking Arbery's way, etc.

[Smackdown2019]

8. Could be wrong but

How can you kidnap someone driving and filming the action?

He may of stated he tried to stop him. But what was his intentions? Perhaps... giving a lift outta of there from the Michael's....

[greenjar_01]

14. Who the hell are the "Michael's"

Can you use the correct name, please? It's hard to take your position seriously when you don't even use the correct names for the people involved.

[moriah]

9. Tragically for Ahmaud, he did more than film a crime.

The second, uncoordinated truck joining in the 4-5 minute attempt to catch Arbery really did factor into his death.

Think about it. What the McMichaels were doing was illegal. Bryan is the only one at that point who witnessed a felony. He automatically assumed, from "instict" (aka ingrained racism, his cell phone messages were apparently quite filled with unprintable words) that instead of Ahmaud being the victim of a crime that he was escaping from a witnessed crime.

I highly doubt the McMichaels would have chased a white woman who resembled half of the couple who had also been in the house at night who was "hauling ass" down the street -- or if they did, it would have been to ask her if she was okay -- they also may not have grabbed guns (though some paranoid ppl live armed).

And I also highly doubt that Bryan would have said "You got her?" to two men in a truck chasing a white woman on foot who is running away, then attempt to "help" catch her. He instead would have likely thought she was the victim of a crime. As Ahmaud was.

Bryan was essentially criminally stupid. And I'm glad this time the criminally stupid got convicted.

Also, regardless of if you credit the GBI's attempt to recreate the path of the chase with Bryan or really believe he tried to hit him wth the truck, in the end.... two trucks not immediately coordinating with each other by radio means there is room for extremely critical error. Like in the end deciding to follow Ahmaud again while he was running, in the left lane instead of the right from the video, and ran him into the McMichaels with their guns out.

His felony offenses clearly contributed to Ahmaud's death. They did not convict him of malice murder (I'm wondering now if that's why they wanted to watch the tape and hear Greg's 911 call -- to decide if he should also get malice murder), meaning they did not believe he acted with "an abandoned and malignant heart". But under Georgia law, if your actions constitute a felony and those actions substantially contribute to someone's death, you are also guilty of murder.

No, he didn't have a gun. So he wasn't convicted on that count. They agreed that he was not truly a party to the aggravated assault that involved firearms. But the rest of it.... he shoulda called 911 first, then turned on the camera, at the very least.

[littlemissmartypants]

11. Could you please explain to me what you mean by this? I don't understand it. TIA

" that where planning to be malace in a murder"

[PTWB]

13. There's no telling what that means 😂

[OnDoutside]

16. I suspect he means Malice Aforethought.

[SYFROYH]

12. Seems like a good case for felony murder.

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ETA: and I have to add that felony murder convictions have put a lot of black men in prison for doing less.

[Smackdown2019]

20. Ain't that truth!

The system is a colored system of injustice!

[Sympthsical]

15. Felony murder is felony murder

Even if you rob a bank with friends, and you have no idea your friend brought a loaded gun. If they kill someone, you're going down for murder.

If you participate in a felony and someone is killed. That's it.

He participated in unlawful imprisonment for a start. That alone would do it.

[Hekate]

17. It was premeditated murder & all 3 men were in on the plan, every bit of it including the video...

Hunting a man down with a truck, pursuing and threatening his life, hunting him like an animal, and as an added sick and sadistic touch, one of them videoed it.

Nothing was inadvertent. These three bastards set out to hunt down a fellow human being and kill him. And they did.

Consider how many getaway drivers who never entered the bank have been imprisoned for years for abetting a crime. What this guy did was far worse.

So, no “hate message” from me. But you are wrong as hell.

[mercuryblues]

18. It is amazing to see the amount of mental gymnastics

you are using to hand this cretin back his white privilege card. 1st off Bryon agreed to the trial date, therefor negating your perceived civil right violation.

Travis McMichael testified that all 3 of them chased and cornered Arbery. And Bryan told the police at the scene that he though he hit Arbery with his truck. So yes, his charges and guilty verdict were well earned. He participated in hunting down a human being and murdering him in cold blood.

As for giving the police the video, he only did so because he thought it made him look innocent. Not for some altruistic reason.

[a kennedy]

19. I bet it's quite a shock for all three of them to be in prison on Thanksgiving. 😂 🤣 😂