I have to say one thing, and it's not very nice...

[PCIntern]

Like most people, I have three sides, my fun positive side, my cynical inquisitive side, and the side that I don’t show anyone if I can help it. Given the third side, I can’t help but smile grimly to myself when I see unvaccinated people suffering. I know, I know, this is terrible. It is inhumane, not altruistic, and downright immoral. But I can’t help myself, because their rebelliousness, if you want to call it that, is causing the rest of us to suffer immeasurably. I know that it is not right, it is against medical ethics, but if I were in charge I would state that if you present to my hospital unvaccinated with Covid, and we are full up, you gotta wait until we have some room, if ever. I know, again, this is disgusting thought, and I’m not in charge, so it doesn’t matter what I think, but if there is any group that has brought it upon itself in history, it is this group. I grieve for those whom they have caused to have misery in their lives: the under age, the immunocompromise, and others who cannot be vaccinated for legitimate reasons. Also, and I have not forgotten, those for whom the vaccine simply was not efficacious. Those are the people for whom I feel truly sorry and genuinely weep.

And I’m going to tell you why: for 6 days a week for months, I risked my life treating patients who may or may not be positive for the virus, because it is my job number one, number two I had to go to work to survive. Yes I took precautions, but that’s all bullshit when you’re seeing the number of people that I have. You’re bound to make a mistake, and quite frankly statistically I am amazed that I did not get sick. Everything I do aerosolizes the virus and the room is literally covered in viral particles. I have four underlying medical issues which could cause me to die if I had been infected and to these bastards who refuse vaccine and threaten lives I say “Fuck You”.

[onecaliberal]

1. It's a hard thing but people who are vaccinated and doing the right thing are dying because

Of the antivaxx scum. Not from Covid but from other treatable disease.

[Rebl2]

15. So true

[olegramps]

41. The mechanisms to hold them accountable should be put in to affect.

People who fail to be fully vaccinated should have to shoulder the cost of their treatment. Their premiums for health insurance should also be increased since their negligence results in the overall increase in insurance. I do not have an ounce of sympathy for those who get sick and may even die due to their own refusal to be vaccinated. I have nothing but contempt for these fools.

[HariSeldon]

52. Not only should they shoulder the burden of their costs

They should also be assessed a share in a compensatory damages fund for the vaccinated folks whose care is denied or delayed due to hospital overburdening from COVID-19. It won't fix this, but it would help move the financial pain where it belongs.

[MLAA]

2. I'm ok with your 3rd side 🙃

[housecat]

31. me too

[yellowdogintexas]

35. me too nt

[Mr. Steve]

43. add me to the list.

Selfishness and arrogant pride in ignorance must never be rewarded.

[applegrove]

3. Personally, I think this is one of the main reasons the right wing leadership

is against Covid mitigation. This teaches hatred of those who are irresponsible. It is the basis of libertarianism to make people wholly responsible for their lot in life so that society has no responsibility to those who have poor options when they start out in life. I worry it is the slippery slope they most like about Covid: the chance to social engineering liberals. They never let a 'good crisis' go to waste. I agree the great unvaxxed and unmasked are killing innocents by taking up beds and spreading more disease. Maybe the Singapore idea of not paying for hospital stays of the unvaxxed if they get Covid-19 should be threatened (but not implemented). Vaccine passports work too. They get people to get the jab if they can't go out to a restaurant when things calm down.

[FakeNoose]

12. You are so right Applegrove

All the libertarians in this country walk through life taking no responsibility for anything. They are total complete assholes and they have no empathy for any Americans who got the short end of the stick. Until it affects THEM and suddenly we have to drop everything and take care of THEM, because they are the only people who matter.

I'm so sick of libertarians... let's put them all on a boat and send them to Antarctica.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

20. Than shoot a hole in the boat

Thats how I feel about them.

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

24. Make sure it gets pretty far south first.

Hundreds of miles from any islands or mainland and icy cold water.

Bon Voyage

[leftieNanner]

27. And sharks.

[GeoWilliam750]

60. With fricking lasers....

[leftieNanner]

61. How did I miss that???

Frickin' lasers indeed! (puts little finger to corner of mouth....)

[radius777]

23. Agree, this is the libertarian mindset.

They don't care about the greater good until something happens to them personally, then they are at the front of the line.

There are no libertarians in a emergency. People cry out for help and expect institutions to help them.

Libertarians are solipsistic parasites.

The only way to combat this ideology is for there to be consequences for such selfish behavior. Right now the cost of their behavior is externalized to society, and as long as they are not accountable then the libertarian way is beneficial.

[3catwoman3]

32. Libertarians remind me of nothing so much as toddlers and...

…preschoolers stamping their feet and screeching, “You’re not the boss of me!”

[soldierant]

59. Good idea except for the destination.

Antarctica is way too fragile to be able to survive their nonsense. And that would have consequences for all of us.

Maybe the moon. Mzybe Mars.

[IronLionZion]

29. libertarians are oblivious to how much society has helped them

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They convince themselves that they are successful due to their own genius and hard work only.

[Alice Kramden]

37. "Social engineering of liberals," as you said

It is a very slippery slope, a way to diminish our humanity - important to recognize

[Doodley]

4. Not all of them are being assholes. Not all of them are Republicans. Even those who are, they

may have children or parents. Nothing is black and white. There again, those who encourage others not to vaccinate, many lives may be saved if they die from covid.

[bullwinkle428]

5. You are literally inside the mouths of people from every walk of life each day.

You, beyond all others, have every right to be absolutely furious with those who fail to take PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY when it comes to keeping those around them as safe as possible.

[Skittles]

6. thank you PCIntern

I understand your sentiment completely - I try not to let repukes take away my humanity but I too am sick of people who just don't care about ANYONE. Also, a big thank you to dentists, including mine, who take care of oral health during a pandemic

[Scalded Nun]

7. They are not being rebelious. This is all about hate.

[Cassidy]

8. I think all of us are astoundingly lucky that there are any medical people still working.

I am sorry that you and your coworkers have to deal with this. I find it unimaginable.

It is one thing to take risks with your own life, but anyone who has chosen not to get vaccinated at this point is risking the lives of others and providing a Petri dish for the virus to mutate. This may not be an actual crime, but it is certainly a moral crime.

I probably first saw this statistic at DU, but an estimated 140,000 children in the USA have been orphaned by Covid. That put us at #4 worldwide for countries with orphaned children. Between March 2020 and April 2021, 1,135,000 children world-wide experienced the death of a primary caregiver.

In so many ways, Homo sapiens are proving just too stupid to live.

[NH Ethylene]

9. I don't hate them and I don't have the energy to waste on anger toward them.

But if I don't know them personally, I do enjoy a little smug smirk when I hear that they died. I know it's wrong but otherwise I am a pretty good person.

If I actually do know them, or if they are a friend's mother or a neighbor, etc, I feel badly for them in spite of their anti-vacc stance.

[OrangeJoe]

10. A sane policy

While fantasizing about kicking the unvaccinated out of the hospital does give one some guilty pleasure it really can't and shouldn't be done.

However, there is absolutely nothing wrong and indeed everything right about making them pay a premium on their health insurance much as smokers do. They made a choice that increases the chance that they will need expensive scarce resources and they need to pay for that decision.

[CrackityJones75]

13. When you have a loved one that dies

When you have a loved one that dies in the waiting room because there isn’t a bed that tune may change. And that has happened to people. On a lesser scale there are people suffering waiting on “Non-emergency” care because lack of bed and staff. That shit needs to stop. Somehow. Why should they take precedence over others when they put themselves in this situation?

[Mariana]

17. My mother didn't die because of them

but she suffered debilitating nerve pain for months longer than she should have, because the hospitals were full of unvaccinated Covid patients and she couldn't get the surgery done. This was in Florida during the summer Delta wave there.

She's fine now, but I'm not likely to forgive the anti-vaxxers any time soon for what they did to her.

[CrackityJones75]

18. Right.

These people are robbing us all of so much. I am beyond fed up with them.

[CrackityJones75]

11. Schadenfrued. All good.

Look these people continue to put everyone at risk. They are robbing my kids and my parents of some of the most important years of their lives. I don’t feel bad when they die. They chose this way and I do get a little positive energy knowing that I did the right things to be safe and they didn’t and most were so smug about it.

I have been done caring about willfully unvaxxed people for some time now.

[Evolve Dammit]

14. I don't blame you at all. You have every right to feel that way. Aggressive anti-vaxxers do not

deserve care at this point. All done.

[Demobrat]

16. Hard not to feel that way.

They get to go skipping along blithely living their lives as if there were no pandemic while the rest of us get the shots, wear the masks, skip the gatherings, and endure the taunting, name calling and physical attacks.

At least they do until they get sick and shove everyone else out of the way on their rush to the hospital.

How do you not have hard feelings about people like that?

[calimary]

19. NO! Do NOT feel bad about smiling grimly when you see unvaccinated people suffering!

Or, just know you’re nowhere near alone in that reaction. I feel the EXACT same way.

Look, they’ve HAD the facts. They’ve HAD the repeated advisories and interviews with Dr. Fauci and other independently and objectively credible experts. They’ve certainly seen enough news about it. And they now have the repeated urging of a legitimately credible President NOT world-famous for lying his ass off as often as the rest of us breathe!

And if they still wanna believe the bullshit, it’s ON THEM. And, with all due respect, FUCK ‘EM! If they get sick, or worse, because they refused to get vaccinated despite a WORLD of evidence supporting the wisdom and common sense (and simple common courtesy toward others) of getting vaccinated, then FUCK ‘EM. Let ‘em reap the whirlwind.

The rest of us are better off without ‘em (and probably safer, health-wise!).

[I_UndergroundPanther]

22. They have even been offered

100 bux if they would take the vaccine.
Not many of those anti vaxx trash take that offer. They must be forced to take it,I think.

Fuck thier feelings and fuck thier hate, fuck thier stupidity,fuck thier choices,and fuck thier fake fears. Take the vaxx and shut the hell up.

[calimary]

56. What you said, my friend!

[jmbar2]

21. I know that you are not alone in feeling that.

They need to open sanitoriums for unvacced, antivaxxers similar to what Christian Scientists do. They keep people clean and fed, only treat with prayer.

That would free up the medical system for folks that follow the science.

[Alice Kramden]

36. That makes a lot of sense

I've wondered WHY the unvaxxed even go to hospitals, if what they want is ivermectin. Let them have separate care, as you said - well put. Then the medical staff in the real hospitals would not suffer their abuse, and the wrath of their family members.

[BlueBlud]

25. I would be fine with that but for one tiny thing.

Those assholes caused you to change, due to their ignorance. They will certainly cause those whose job it is to see their last breath, even more pain.

I had myocarditis and could not breath, and peed myself, and had to control my breaths, or die, then and there. Over and over. Unfortunately, I know PRECISELY how they die. And cannot bring myself to smirk or anything but show disdain.

Too many folks will carry the sight of desperate people taking their last breaths to the grave. I weep for them.

[PCIntern]

26. Without question....

As well as for the same family members and friends who begged these people to vaccinate.

[area51]

28. I don't know why antivaxers

don't make Mary Mallon their patron saint.

[Jedi Guy]

30. Thanks for doing what you do despite the risks to yourself, PCIntern.

I'm going to the dentist tomorrow for a routine cleaning. My appointment was originally scheduled for a few weeks ago, but I woke up that morning with a sore throat (no other symptoms) and called to cancel the appointment out of an abundance of caution to avoid potentially exposing the people at the dentist's office.

What blew my mind was that the receptionist thanked me for cancelling at the last minute after I apologized for doing so. She told me that they've had several patients show up with obvious cold/flu symptoms and still expect to be seen. I was aghast at the idea that someone would be so selfish/thoughtless as to put others at risk rather than reschedule.

On balance, I suppose I shouldn't have been at all surprised, given how many people utterly refuse to take even the simplest steps to protect those around them. I guess I just don't understand that mindset, but then again, I matured past the age of five both physically and mentally. Clearly quite a few people were not so fortunate.

Stay safe!

[PCIntern]

39. Good luck there and thank you!! Nt

[barbtries]

33. all I can say is

you're not alone. I've taken to visiting sorryantivaxxer.com on a regular basis to let off this steam. Compared to some of the commenters over there, you and I are lightweights.

i get especially frustrated with young people who die leaving young children behind. https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/post/sam-ely-31-lodi-oh-anti-vaxxer-died-of-covid-within-3-days-of-being-hospitalized

all I could say is at least he didn't suck up millions of dollars in medical bills before he kicked the bucket, but gawd damn! a free shot and he would probably be alive today.

[Cozmo]

34. You're human, me too and I'm with you!

[DFW]

38. Not very nice?

What you would say to them is covered in roses compared to what I probably would have said, had I been in your shoes.

[Vinca]

40. You're being charitable. I'd help dig the graves. Beforehand.

[CaptainTruth]

42. Evolution should help the survival of the species as a whole.

To me that includes evolution of intelligence & common sense. Someone once said "Some people are too stupid to be alive," & if anti-vaxxers & anti-maskers bring death upon themselves, they're just proving the truthfulness of that statement.

[keithbvadu2]

44. Many of the anti-vaxxers have seen the light and have come around to believe in vaccinations.

Many of the anti-vaxxers have seen the light and have come around to believe in vaccinations.

Of course the light is at the end of a long tunnel and they realize they are dying.

To the still true believers, the newly redeemed are apostates to the true faith of non-vax.

[GB_RN]

45. Insurance Companies Could Help Fix This In A Hurry...

If they announced that they were going to raise rates (by a lot) on people who refused the vaccines or that they were going to refuse to pay for hospitalizations caused by COVID if the person was unvaccinated. Lots of those assholes would realize that their wallets would be immediately affected, and get the shot.

[LittleGirl]

50. Preach! eom

[pandr32]

51. Given your description I think most of us Dems are 3-sided

Loved your post.

[Joinfortmill]

54. I'm with you. Thank you for taking care of us!!

[NQAS]

55. Your're saying what so many others are thinking

Frankly, I marvel at people like you who have risked their lives to treat people during the pandemic. I'm thankful that people like you are out there and grateful that I'm in a different line of work.

It's unfortunate that we have to qualify the claim that we simply don't care whether the unvaccinated live or die. On the one hand, I just don't care. If they die, they die. No sympathy, no empathy, no nothing - for them, their families, etc. Unfortunately, we have to qualify that attitude with the reality that they are affecting (infecting?) others who are trying to stay alive - friends, family co-workers, etc. who have been vaccinated and who do take precautions. It's more than unfortunate that the unvaccinated put others at risk. It's criminal. It's really not much different than people in recent years past who have deliberately infected people with AIDS or STDs. It may be tough to prove in court, but these people are IMHO guilt of criminal behavior (and that's putting aside their general assholeness).

What number of dead is acceptable to those dimwits? 800,000 seems okay (along with blaming Joe Biden). What happens when it reaches 1 million? 2 million? What happens when a family member can't be treated for other medical issues because their behavior is overloading the medical system? Is that okay? Is that a reasonable price to pay? What about when it begins to affect elections. Maybe 800,000 dead spread across the country won't have much of an electoral impact. What happens when that number climbs and the bulk of the deaths are in red communities? Can they sidestep the cult thinking and say enough is enough?

[peggysue2]

57. Think there are a lot of us thinking and feeling the same way

I had a conversation with a good friend of mine yesterday. Her cousin was fired because of her refusal to get vaccinated. My friend (who is vaxxed) was taking a sympathetic approach to her cousin's situation, said her office was small, that everyone had their own closed space with a door, that the boss wasn't very nice when he delivered the news, yada, yada.

I told her flat out I no longer have patience or sympathy for the anti-vaxx crowd and that personally I wouldn't want to work with anyone in the same situation. As far as the cousin being insulted by the boss's demeanor? How about being insulted by her cousin's defiance, about her refusal x millions of other refusals which has prolonged the restrictions we all encounter? I continued to vent until she quickly changed the subject. LOL.

My friend is a good soul who empathizes with everyone. But still. This has gone on too long for one simple reason:

People being ignorant, thoughtless and selfish.

Think the majority of Americans have had it with the stupid crowd.

[hadEnuf]

58. I sometimes feel bad because many of these Trumpers and anti-vaxers are obviously mentally ill,

or at the least are pitifully brainwashed. But they are also most likely just lowlife assholes as well.

[Poiuyt]

62. I have lost ALL patience with anti-vaxxers

Fuck them all