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A good illustration of ideology in America, these days (Original Post) RAB910 Dec 2021 OP
Pretty much says it all. Old Crank Dec 2021 #1
RIP Bartcop oioioi Dec 2021 #2
The late, great, Bartcop... JackHughes Dec 2021 #5
Loved Terry and BartCop.... SergeStorms Dec 2021 #6
A good friend, gone too soon oioioi Dec 2021 #7
Another way to see the shift is to watch the 1992 presidential debates LT Barclay Dec 2021 #3
Only possible addition is HateRadio. NoMoreRepugs Dec 2021 #4

oioioi

(1,127 posts)
2. RIP Bartcop
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 02:16 PM
Dec 2021
http://www.bartcop.com/

History of how BartCop Started

By Marc Perkel

It was about 18 years ago in 1996 when one day someone forwarded an email from an email publication that Terry was writing called "Rush Limbaugh Lying Nazi Whore - Issue #45.

http://www.bartcop.com/0045.htm

It was so funny I was rolling on the floor trying to breathe.It was during the 1996 presidential election and poor Bob Dole was trying to eak out a win over the Big Dog. This part was the part that put me on the floor.

I have a satellite dish. I caught some audio of Dole after the show. The caterer brought some food in. "Bob Dole wants a diet Coke," he said. "Bob Dole wants a Hot Dog!"

Someone, maybe a kid serving the food, asked Dole if he wanted mustard on his Hot Dog.

Bob Dole said: "Well, I feel that's it's my view that mustard is certainly one of the options we're looking at. We're looking at a number of options, actually. There's lot of condiments... ketchup, for instance. Some like it, some don't....

That's not up to the federal government to decide. Those decisions are best made locally ...the states. Some people talk about relish, relish... is...

Cheese! Lot of cheese lovers in America..... Perhaps we'll go with mustard, but we haven't made a final determination on that, haven't decided... It might come down to a situation where we have some ketchup and some mustard...we'll know soon..."

Mrs. Dole interrupted and said:

"Bob Dole has always supported mustard on Hot Dogs. Bob Dole has been, and continues to be pro-mustard. Mustard has a friend in Bob Dole."

I had just put up a web server and was looking for interesting things to publish. So I tracked down the author and called him on the phone. He was somewhat surprised that I found him but I explained that I wanted to take his collection and make web pages out of it. He didn't even know what a web page was at first but he agreed. For the first few years he would just email his list and I would add the page every time I got one of his emails. Eventually he learned just enough to barely put together a web page and started doing it himself.

Bart was one of the first and most successful liberal bloggers. Back then Bart and I were big fish in a small pond. We inspired many other liberal web sites that became far more successful an influential. We became small fish in a big pond. But Bart stayed with it for 18 years swinging the hammer of truth. People who were born the year Bart started are now old enough to vote. He created a community and lots of people know each other through him. I believe he changed history in significant ways that will some day be discovered by supercomputers in the future. But for now we will all miss him.

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
6. Loved Terry and BartCop....
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 04:28 PM
Dec 2021

I was living in Florida at the time, and every time he had a pledge drive where he'd call you on the phone if you donated $100 or something like that, I'd pony up just to talk to him. After awhile he'd call just for the heck of it without the donation (which he knew he'd get anyway, eventually) and we developed a good telephone relationship.

I tried calling after he found out about the cancer, but he'd never pick up the phone. I think he knew he was nearing the end of the road, but I'll never forget our conversations about politics, and sweet corn. Bart loved his corn. I called him a "cornoisseur", and he liked that moniker.

Too many good people have passed before their time. Terry was a good one, that's for sure.

LT Barclay

(2,596 posts)
3. Another way to see the shift is to watch the 1992 presidential debates
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 02:19 PM
Dec 2021

Perot pulled votes from Bush but viewing it now he sounds like the radical liberal of the three

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