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Fri Jan 14, 2022, 11:18 AM

M. Garland's timing of indictments

is mostly dictated by procedural realities and rebuilding the DOJ but I think it's going to be effective politically. By late summer I'm hoping to see maybe 10 GOP congressmen and hopefully a few Senate candidates running for office while indicted or at least under threat of indictment. Politically speaking, we don't even need convictions to garner the benefit. In fact sedition is difficult to prove so I don't expect blanket convictions as an end game but the political gain should be well worth the effort.







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Response to Pantagruel (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 11:21 AM

1. Believe it when I see it

not a moment before.

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Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 11:24 AM

3. This. I am more encouraged than I have been, but we've been burned too often for

any other approach to this.

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Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 11:58 AM

10. me too. the repugs seem to get what they want regardless of conventions or limitations

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Response to Pantagruel (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 11:23 AM

2. Yes it is hard to prove what we saw with our own eyes?

Just because they were not in the assault doesn't mean they are free and clear. IMO. I agree it will help us next election.

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Response to Pantagruel (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 11:38 AM

4. In a sane country that is exactly what would happen.

In practice I fear the gop will turn that into a "Democrat's witchhunt" and their base will believe it. That's already the narrative what McCarthy and his ilk are pushing.

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Response to Pantagruel (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 11:45 AM

5. I'm not an attorney nor do I play one onscreen so I'm in no position to criticize

Mr. Garland. I am in a position to be very pleased, however.

I look forward to seeing what happens when indictments are issued, arrests are made and
a jury is presented with THE FACTS. It's my understanding that a conviction for
SEDITION carries a mandatory heavy sentence. Let the games begin!

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Response to abqtommy (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 11:53 AM

7. Expecting heavy jail time

is setting yourself up for disappointment. It's hard to prove and you probably get some Trumpers on juries in criminal trials where you need 12 votes for convictions.
My point is to capitalize politically and let justice fall where it may.

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Response to Chin music (Reply #6)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 11:59 AM

11. Conspiracy

is the easier charge. That's where all the electronic evidence helps.
But I believe actually proving sedition relies on proving they had an actual chance of overturning the government-subjective and more difficult to prove IMHO.

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Response to Pantagruel (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 11:54 AM

8. I'm betting a lot of these indicted pricks will roll over and name names

Itís already happened in some circumstances - people turning on each other. And I suspect Justice Dept is also betting that will happen when these losers are facing hard time.

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Response to Pantagruel (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 11:57 AM

9. WOW, how can you equate AG Garland's actions with political motives? He's no Bill Barr.

Thankfully, we had an election, put down a coup attempt, and got rid of the people politicizing the DoJ.

Did you even listen to AG Garland's speech?



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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #9)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 12:02 PM

12. Not equating Barr to MG

but simply addressing the political realities. MG is simply and properly following the facts and the law.

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