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Jilly_in_VA

(9,965 posts)
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 04:32 PM Jan 2022

Pro-Trump Media Is in Meltdown Mode Over New Oath Keeper Indictments

Pro-Trump media and lawmakers have, for months, been faithfully regurgitating the line that the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol can’t have been an attempted coup or insurrection, because none of the hundreds of people arrested had been charged with sedition or insurrection.

But a federal indictment unsealed Thursday put a pin in that narrative—or at least, you’d think it would. Ten members of the Oath Keepers, an anti-government militia, and their leader Stewart Rhodes, were hit with a stunning sedition conspiracy indictment alleging that they stockpiled weapons, engaged in paramilitary training, and even discussed a plot to transport high-powered guns across from their hotel in Virginia across the Potomac for Jan. 6, all with the goal of blocking then President-elect Joe Biden from taking office.

Pro-Trump media and lawmakers have, for months, been faithfully regurgitating the line that the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol can’t have been an attempted coup or insurrection, because none of the hundreds of people arrested had been charged with sedition or insurrection.

But a federal indictment unsealed Thursday put a pin in that narrative—or at least, you’d think it would. Ten members of the Oath Keepers, an anti-government militia, and their leader Stewart Rhodes, were hit with a stunning sedition conspiracy indictment alleging that they stockpiled weapons, engaged in paramilitary training, and even discussed a plot to transport high-powered guns across from their hotel in Virginia across the Potomac for Jan. 6, all with the goal of blocking then President-elect Joe Biden from taking office.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/xgdayj/oath-keeper-stewart-rhodes-sedition-conspiracy-indictment

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Pro-Trump Media Is in Meltdown Mode Over New Oath Keeper Indictments (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Jan 2022 OP
Let these a******s melt down. We have the goods on them! CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2022 #1
Meanwhile MSNBC True Blue American Jan 2022 #2
So a Trump rally shouldn't be reported on? brooklynite Jan 2022 #15
Count The Lies Real Time DanieRains Jan 2022 #17
He's a private citizen now DBoon Jan 2022 #20
He's the leader of one of the two major Political Parties. brooklynite Jan 2022 #21
didf Mitch Mcconnel say so? DBoon Jan 2022 #22
Trump has a lot more political clout than McConnell. brooklynite Jan 2022 #23
no he doesn't DBoon Jan 2022 #25
What? ShazzieB Jan 2022 #32
There's no doubt that Trump still controls the Republican Party Poiuyt Jan 2022 #34
Mitch was also elected. True Blue American Jan 2022 #52
In reality, no he doesn't. Not any more. He's a nobody worshipped by other nobodies. However, Progressive Jones Jan 2022 #49
Even Direct TV is dropping True Blue American Jan 2022 #50
Because corporate media mzmolly Jan 2022 #54
Amen. True Blue American Jan 2022 #51
No, reporting everything the flushed turd does or says is destructive to President Biden & the yaesu Jan 2022 #24
No. We basically know what happened. Wake me when there is something new. Scrivener7 Jan 2022 #46
I hope shit rolls uphill! Lunabell Jan 2022 #3
They could just call it fake news. That's how they handle all the other unpleasant news. - n/t Jim__ Jan 2022 #4
A 48 page federal indictment on seditious conspiracy gonna be hard to bury. Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2022 #28
Unless they indict a member of Congress or someone in Trump's inner circle... thesquanderer Jan 2022 #31
I love the combination of eyepatch and glasses that the oathkeeper guy is wearing in the picture Victor_c3 Jan 2022 #5
That throught thread... 2naSalit Jan 2022 #9
Belt and suspenders. LOL! OMGWTF Jan 2022 #13
Likely neither easier nor cheaper. forgotmylogin Jan 2022 #16
Thanks for this info! Habibi Jan 2022 #42
But then he'd look like Col. Klink COL Mustard Jan 2022 #26
He shot his own eye out ZERTErYNOthe Jan 2022 #29
or one contact Jilly_in_VA Jan 2022 #30
I'm seeing the spin. Nevilledog Jan 2022 #6
If you need a laugh COL Mustard Jan 2022 #27
What's FR? ShazzieB Jan 2022 #33
Free Republic or freeperville, pretty much opposite of DU and in all matters of everything uponit7771 Jan 2022 #45
Just dropped in to lurk at REDSTATE Thunderbeast Jan 2022 #38
I must say I've never been on that site COL Mustard Jan 2022 #53
Wait till they find out OAN was canceled from cable SheltieLover Jan 2022 #7
I just logged on, that's what I was looking for. 2naSalit Jan 2022 #12
Was in threadsyesterday, I think. SheltieLover Jan 2022 #39
Yes but now that they have had time... 2naSalit Jan 2022 #43
Ooooh lol SheltieLover Jan 2022 #44
It'll come... 2naSalit Jan 2022 #47
You weren't supposed to notice . . . Aussie105 Jan 2022 #8
Remember Trump wanted loyalty oaths from his freak worshipers? pwb Jan 2022 #40
One thing is certain, they will spew vast amounts of bullshit. paleotn Jan 2022 #10
Hell, some pro-Trump media are directly implicated with the conspiracy Mr. Ected Jan 2022 #11
Sounds as though they are experiencing a real conundrum! Emile Jan 2022 #14
And fear-induced hemorrhoids. dchill Jan 2022 #18
That explains why their index finger is stained brown. Emile Jan 2022 #19
They will eventually throw "Oath Keepers" under the bus nuxvomica Jan 2022 #35
The writer doesn't know their metaphors Aviation Pro Jan 2022 #36
The 1st and 2nd paragraphs ... left-of-center2012 Jan 2022 #37
let 'em melt down DBoon Jan 2022 #41
I do love a good ol' fashioned Nazi face melt Blue Owl Jan 2022 #48
You might want to edit your post... Pluvious Jan 2022 #55

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
2. Meanwhile MSNBC
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 04:48 PM
Jan 2022

Is all agog about Trump doing a rally! That sucker went off as soon as I saw pictures and heard her!

DBoon

(22,354 posts)
22. didf Mitch Mcconnel say so?
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 06:21 PM
Jan 2022

Mitch is the senior elected Republican in the US. Did Mitch officially and explicitly delegate this role to Trump?

DBoon

(22,354 posts)
25. no he doesn't
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 06:28 PM
Jan 2022

Mitch controls what legislation is considered by the Senate. Trump cannot pass, block or enforce any laws. He has the same power as any other celebrity, like the Kardashians.

ShazzieB

(16,363 posts)
32. What?
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 06:51 PM
Jan 2022
Trump cannot pass, block or enforce any laws. He has the same power as any other celebrity, like the Kardashians.


If that's really what you think, I believe you've been missing a few things. Here's something to get you started catching up: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-08/trump-after-january-6/100736202

Poiuyt

(18,122 posts)
34. There's no doubt that Trump still controls the Republican Party
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 07:02 PM
Jan 2022

It's true that he doesn't control the legislative agenda, but just about every Republican politician seeks out his approval and behaves in such a way to get it. They will do and say anything no matter how outrageous it is. While technically, he has no political power, he has an iron grip on Republicans from the state level on up. If anyone behaves in a manner that doesn't please him, he will end their career.

I've been following American politics for over 50 years, and I've never seen anything like this.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
49. In reality, no he doesn't. Not any more. He's a nobody worshipped by other nobodies. However,
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 12:52 AM
Jan 2022

the GOP being tattooed with the stain of Trump is fine with me. That can't be good on any level.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
50. Even Direct TV is dropping
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 07:19 AM
Jan 2022

The conspiracy channel. I refuse to listen to or watch propaganda. So anything that concerns the traitor does not interest me. At this time it is a very small group of grifters trying to keep their grift alive.

mzmolly

(50,985 posts)
54. Because corporate media
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 01:03 PM
Jan 2022

is more interested than ratings, than integrity. Not that either of the smarmy men noted above, have integrity.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
24. No, reporting everything the flushed turd does or says is destructive to President Biden & the
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 06:27 PM
Jan 2022

country as a whole, it is nothing as its floaters, it doesn't deserve any news coverage.

Scrivener7

(50,946 posts)
46. No. We basically know what happened. Wake me when there is something new.
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 09:13 PM
Jan 2022

Reporting that there were lots of people in ridiculous outfits listening to a senile old man lie and drone for hours is not news.

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
31. Unless they indict a member of Congress or someone in Trump's inner circle...
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 06:50 PM
Jan 2022

...they'll just see these guys as a few rogue extremists, at worst.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
5. I love the combination of eyepatch and glasses that the oathkeeper guy is wearing in the picture
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 04:57 PM
Jan 2022

If you only have one eye, wouldn't it be easier and cheaper to just have a monocle??

At least then you wouldn't have people like me making fun of you for wearing glasses and an eyepatch....

forgotmylogin

(7,527 posts)
16. Likely neither easier nor cheaper.
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 05:50 PM
Jan 2022

I work with vision insurance, and it's more common if someone is blind in one eye to create glasses with one Rx lens and one plano (no prescription, just clear plastic in the frame.) In fact, no customer nor provider has ever asked about nor mentioned a monocle. I imagine someone would probably have to go to a specialty manufacturer or artisan whom would likely be out of network. We do occasionally have "low vision aids" which is often an add-on scope that attaches to glasses for an extreme vision situation, but that must be offered and covered by the individual insurance plan.

A patch is cheap, spectacles are the default. A glass/prosthetic eye and standard glasses would probably be a more common solution and is likely a one-time expense rather than updating a pricey monocle every year or two. I know our insurance doesn't cover monocles, and the copay or amount covered by insurance doesn't change if you only get one lens. If someone has a split Rx (one eye single vision and the other bifocal) the applied copay is for two of the more expensive type of lens.

ZERTErYNOthe

(199 posts)
29. He shot his own eye out
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 06:39 PM
Jan 2022

This genius and thought leader shot his own eye out, and he proudly displays this symbol of his own incompetence for all to see (except most of us see it with 2 eyes).

Nevilledog

(51,070 posts)
6. I'm seeing the spin.
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 04:58 PM
Jan 2022

They only charged these poor patriots with seditious conspiracy because conservative media kept bringing up that no one was charged with sedition or insurrection.

Thunderbeast

(3,406 posts)
38. Just dropped in to lurk at REDSTATE
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 07:06 PM
Jan 2022

The stories:

Biden in meltdown over repeated failures.

CNN on the brink of bankruptcy

Dish Network about to fail after OANN decision.

Jenn Paski getting meaner.

Glenn Younkin implements "Torched Earth" strategy.

...........................

Not a word about the Oath Keepers, House J6 Committee, Trump legal jeopardy.

2naSalit

(86,533 posts)
43. Yes but now that they have had time...
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 08:04 PM
Jan 2022

To let it sink in, I was looking for the prolonged response with gnashing of teeth and curse words.

Aussie105

(5,377 posts)
8. You weren't supposed to notice . . .
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 05:08 PM
Jan 2022

Tourists ready to attack and hold siege, heavily armed.

You weren't supposed to notice . . . some media still say you shouldn't.

Thank goodness some smart people are calling it what it was/is, and are acting accordingly.

'Oath' keepers - what exactly is their 'oath' anyway? Seem more like anarchists to me.

Strange thing is, like the Taliban in Afghanistan with no plan if they won, there was no plan of what to do if the insurrection succeeded.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
10. One thing is certain, they will spew vast amounts of bullshit.
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 05:36 PM
Jan 2022

thus, I don't care if they're in meltdown mode or not. Really makes no difference to the fact that they spew nothing but bullshit.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
11. Hell, some pro-Trump media are directly implicated with the conspiracy
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 05:37 PM
Jan 2022

We have their frantic text messages.

nuxvomica

(12,421 posts)
35. They will eventually throw "Oath Keepers" under the bus
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 07:04 PM
Jan 2022

The right wingers always have that option to fall back on.

Aviation Pro

(12,149 posts)
36. The writer doesn't know their metaphors
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 07:04 PM
Jan 2022

"Stuck a pin in that narrative," vice "Put a pin in that narrative."

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
37. The 1st and 2nd paragraphs ...
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 07:05 PM
Jan 2022

The 1st and 2nd paragraphs are repeated in paragraphs 3 and 4.
The second half of the OP is the same as the first half.


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