Smack talking Nina Turner up next on Jonsthan Capehart's MSNBC show.

[oasis]

Let's see if she tones down her trashing of Democrats.

[Walleye]

1. Smack talking is totally unhelpful

[Cha]

53. It's horrible..

Sanders Campaign Co-Chair Nina Turner Rips Biden: Choosing Between Him and Trump is Like Eating From a ‘Bowl of Sh*t’

https://www.mediaite.com/news/sanders-campaign-co-chair-nina-turner-rips-biden-choosing-between-him-and-trump-is-like-eating-from-a-bowl-of-sht/

That's how "unhelpful" she is.

[oasis]

2. Discussing her upcoming rematch with Shontell Brown for congressional seat.

[Wounded Bear]

3. I switched to The Weather Channel...

my go to when MSNBC goes 'rogue.'

Besides, I'd rather hear Snowmagedden reruns on an endless loop than her.

[oasis]

5. Capehart had better give Shontell some air time. Nina Turner's washed up

as a candidate Democrats could ever trust again.

[Cha]

54. I should hope so!

[oasis]

59. Mahalo Cha.

And a big ALOHA!

[Cha]

60. Aloha to you, oasis!

Did Capehart have any pushback whatsoever about her "dak money" accusation?

[oasis]

62. Capehart never asked for an example, he just let her ramble on. He'd

better give Shontel equal time. Soon.

[Cha]

64. Not a sign of a good journalist ..

shame on him..

Mahalo

[oasis]

4. Nina's saying "dark money" defeated her in run for Ohio's 11th congressional seat.

Accusations with not a shred of proof.

[Botany]

6. She got defeated by a large margin because:

She is a nasty person who needs to go away, I think she worked for Jill Stein in 2016, and
people just don't like her.

[oasis]

7. Nina trashed both Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, but has the nerve to ask

Democrats to send her to congress.

[PortTack]

8. This!

[Hortensis]

49. Yes! She willingly threw the whole nation under the Republican bus,

calling for people to abandon the Democratic Party with tRump and the white billionaire's party as the alternative.

That's what I mean about extreme behavior. I can't even imagine how anyone could passionately believe that was a good thing, but some did, still do, and would do it again. After all, we're still here, noble mission unachieved.

[Botany]

14. If anybody gets "dark money" it is Nina

I wouldn't be surprised if the GOP/Russia pays her to be a pain in the ass to real democrats.

[oasis]

16. True that. Outside forces that cultivate Dem Party disloyalty. nt

[Hortensis]

20. She WAS the one with the big OUTSIDE money funding from the beginning.

With big money and big name recognition, the seat was considered hers to lose. She lost when local voters learned more about HER and what she's been up to, and all the big money didn't save her.

I've read she's considered to be a much longer shot this time. Her district did a good job in electing Shontel Brown, who proudly signed the infrastructure bill two days after being sworn in. A lot of projects and jobs creation are being funded for their area and kicking off soon.

Go, Shontel!

[Demsrule86]

26. Many here advised us to just 'accept' her win as she was so far ahead...nope. I live in Ohio in

Shontel's district so we rolled up our sleeves and went to work. Nina helped with that ridiculous anti-Democratic (and Biden) van she used.

[Cha]

57. I remember that.. Boy did they

have a WRONG NUMBER!

Killer Mike Blew it Too..

Thanks for helping to get Shontel Brown elected, Dems!

[Celerity]

15. By July, the Democratic Majority for Israel PAC had contributed over $660,000 in advertising

attacking Turner and supporting Brown, a figure that rose to over $2 million by the end of the primary, $1 million of which was for television advertisements.

The Jewish Democratic Council of America spent five figures targeting Jewish voters in support of Brown. As of late July, the Working Families Party pledged to spend at least $150,000 for Turner via its Super PAC.

By the end of the campaign, outside advertisement spending supporting Turner or opposing Brown totaled $900,000 and outside advertisement spending supporting Brown or opposing Turner totaled $2.9 million.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Ohio%27s_11th_congressional_district_special_election

Accusations with not a shred of proof.

Not a Turner fangirl at all (she is far too much of a bomb thrower/chaos agent, as I said here back during the primary) but there is a paper trail that dispels your claim.

[oasis]

17. "Shred of proof". Nina didn't have access to this information?

She has no trouble speaking out about what's wrong with Dem leadership.

[Celerity]

19. you were the one that said there was not a shred a proof

Nina didn't have access to this information?

of course she did, that us why she made the claim

She has no trouble speaking out about what's wrong with Dem leadership.

Yes, she is bad news, I SO hope she doesn't win this rematch, and I also will never forget the false attacks she made against Pete in the 2020 Dem POTUS primaries, along with the trashiest of the TYT assholes.

Far beyond talking shit, Turner would likely be the one House Rep who IF it came down to one vote needed, would fuck us (unlike even the Squad, who I think would not do a non symbolic vote actual blocking vote, although Rashida Tlaib would worry me, and I hope she goes down as well, as she is another far too loose of a cannon)

[oasis]

25. Nina did not support her "dark money" accusations with proof. Okay?

[Celerity]

35. Now clue what you are on about, as I showed you the outside dark money sourcings for both campaign

Did you expect Turner to read raw, itemised text and data from FEC filings for 5 minutes whilst conducting a live interview on national telly?



I am going to end this colloquy, as it is now past the point of logical narrative.

As I stated, I hope Turner loses, as she is a menace.

[Nixie]

37. You showed nothing except a Jewish Council supporting

a real Democrat.

[Celerity]

50. In the politics of the United States, dark money refers to political spending by nonprofit

organizations—for example, 501(c)(4) (social welfare) 501(c)(5) (unions) and 501(c)(6) (trade association) groups—that are not required to disclose their donors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_money

Jewish Democratic Council of America

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Democratic_Council_of_America

Formation November 2017; 4 years ago
Tax ID no. 821919054
Legal status 501(c)(4) non-profit organization




New IRS Rule Allows Many Nonprofits to Withhold Donor Information From the IRS

https://www.nossaman.com/newsroom-insights-new-irs-rule-allows-many-nonprofits-to-withhold-donor-iInformation-from-the-IRS

On May 26, 2020, the U.S. Treasury released Final Regulations on donor disclosure requirements that shield many nonprofits – except 501(c)(3) charities and 527 political organizations – from the requirement to disclose the names of significant donors on Schedule B (Schedule of Contributors) to their annual Form 990 returns. The Final Regulations were expected: The IRS had tried to implement these rules 2 years ago without regulations in Revenue Procedure 2018-38, but the federal district court in Montana vacated that guidance in Bullock v. IRS for failure to follow Administrative Procedure Act rulemaking requirements (as our earlier e-alert noted).

As of May 28, 2020, eligible nonprofits, including 501(c)(4) advocacy and social welfare organizations, 501(c)(5) labor and agricultural organizations, and 501(c)(6) trade organizations, need not disclose the names of donors to the IRS when they file annual Form 990 returns. For many nonprofits whose Form 990 deadline (original, or with extension) fell after March 31 but before July 15, 2020, the IRS extended that deadline to July 15, 2020 in response to COVID-19 (as we noted here), and those nonprofits can now rely on the Final Regulations in filing these delayed returns. As a practical matter, the Final Regulations do not change how affected nonprofits approach Schedule B from last year’s filings because Revenue Procedure 2018-38 stated that the IRS would not enforce the Schedule B donor disclosure rule against nonprofits who did not identify donors in reliance on the IRS guidance.

[Nixie]

51. LOL, of course. And it says right there "Jewish Dems".

That name seems more forthcoming than the PAC's supporting Nina, which she fails to mention, of course. What's wrong with Jewish Dems supporting Democrats?? One of Nina's PACS is called "Working Family Party." Their "dark money" is fine, of course.

Retreating into formal definitions doesn't really change the tone and inferences of the blame game with the "dark money" accusations, which is to imply that corrupt forces defeated Nina, when the honest reality is that she was rejected by voters.

[Nixie]

58. Here's Nina saying "evil money" as a way to imply corruption. These are the word games she employs.

This is what my comments referred to about her word games. She got called out on this one, but it goes to her mindset and how she tries to imply evil and corruption to shade people. Copy and paste of formal definitions doesn't take into account people like her who manipulate.

https://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/news/local_news/turners-evil-money-comment-riles-jewish-leaders/article_d1efcf24-fadf-11eb-a629-9b2e75fc2156.html

"Nina Turner, who ignited a national conversation on social media with her use of the term “evil money” in her Aug. 3 concession speech, is taking heat from some local Jewish leaders."

“Although Turner’s staff sought to clarify her election night remarks, indicating she was speaking about ‘corporate money, Republican money and Trump allies’ money,’ words matter,” Shapiro wrote in an Aug. 10 email to the CJN. “Intentionally or unintentionally, the language she employed rings of historic antisemitic tropes. There is no place for bigotry, hate or antisemitism in our public discourse. It is the responsibility of political figures to condemn and address antisemitism, and that means taking extra care with phrasing that can be offensive or derogatory. AJC Cleveland has reached out to Turner to discuss issues of concern.”

[oasis]

61. This will follow Nina for as long as she's on the national stage. nt

[Nixie]

68. Agreed. She really got caught in her own BS with that one.

[Nixie]

36. "Dark money" is a Jewish Council targeting Jewish voters

in support of a real Democrat? Who was her opponent? Huh?

[oasis]

39. Excellent point.

[Nixie]

46. Your link shows Nina also took money from a PAC, but apparently it's one of her In crowd, so

it's okay. Just not okay when she gets crushed because people didn't want her.

[Celerity]

48. I listed figures for BOTH campaigns, as I already stated above. I certainly never made any sort of

qualitative (ie good or bad money) judgement about either side's financing, I only listed quantitative figures.

but apparently it's one of her In crowd, so it's okay. Just not okay when she gets crushed because people didn't want her.

I am not a Turner supporter in the slightest (again as stated above and back during the primary as well), so your projection is in error. I am glad she lost.

[Nixie]

52. Actually, I was talking about the word game with dark money and how phony it is and how it's

used to infer corruption where none exists. I wasn't referring at all to who you supported. But it's good to hear you have Nina figured out.

[comradebillyboy]

18. (((Dark Money)))...nt

[Nixie]

38. +1000, saying "dark money" is the actual scam -- trying to collectively demonize

anyone or everyone else without having to justify their own questionable motives. It's so overdone at this point that only the simpletons will bite on this one anymore. She is really a phony person considering her actual voting history.

[oasis]

41. Nina made her "dark money" statement without presenting evidence. That's

what registered the highest on my " Nina b.s. meter".

[Nixie]

42. Exactly. It's always like that because they want to imply that anyone contributing

to their opponent is corrupt. It's their generalized catch-all smear and it's a very dishonest scam at this point. We know her voting her history.

[Cha]

55. Yeah that's her Go To Whine.. she

wouldn't think of Losing Gracefully.

What's Capeheart saying about her Trash talk?

[iemanja]

56. She raised more money than Brown

Turner is not telling the truth.

[hlthe2b]

9. She is not a Democrat by her own admission. I resent those who suggest she is and support her

on DU or elsewhere. Turner or "Turncoat," it is all the same (and no, DU only requires that we support Democrats--specifically elected Democrats or those who have won current primaries, so I violate NOTHING).

[oasis]

11. Dems need to ditch Nina for good. She's a giant pain in the ass. nt

[Demsrule86]

23. I live in Ohio...and we ditched her pretty good during the special...looking forward to

annihilating her in the Congressional races...she is not a Democrat but is the head of and a member of the People's Party.

[Hortensis]

31. :) Maybe yet another rejection will be the charm

and she'll finally give up seeking power through the Democratic Party.

Go get her.

[Demsrule86]

32. She destroyed herself politically in 16.

[Demsrule86]

24. She is a member of the People's Party and not a Democrat.

[Emile]

10. I watched some of it and she was smacking republicans.

[oasis]

12. Who do you think she was referring to with her "dark money" comment?

[Emile]

13. I didn't catch that part.

[Demsrule86]

22. Really, unusual for her.

[Demsrule86]

21. I won't see...I make it a point to never listen to anything Nina Turner has to say...she will lose

the House election and maybe finally go away.

[oasis]

28. Dunno why Capehart gave her a spot. She's such a shit stirrer. nr

[Demsrule86]

30. This is why I no longer watch MSNBC.

[BlueIdaho]

27. Sorry Nina

I’m just not that into you.

[NurseJackie]

29. She compared Joe Biden to a BOWL OF SHIT and voted for JILL STEIN instead of Hillary.

That's all anyone needs to know about her. Honestly, I'm just astounded that ANY politician thinks it's a good idea to be associated with her. When anyone is chummy with Nina Fucking Turner, it really reveals a LOT to me about their character.

[oasis]

33. I suspect Nina is surfacing to activate campaign donation$$$. She's gotta

know there's no chance she'll unseat Shontell.

[NurseJackie]

34. In solidarity, eh?

I guess there's always someone who hates the Democratic party as much as she does... and is willing to put their money where HER big mouth is.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

63. So did he ask how much she enjoyed her bowl of shit?

[betsuni]

66. Reveals a lot about character, judgement, basic common sense.

[Hortensis]

40. Those given to radical to extremist political behaviors, warring on

everything mainstream because it's mainstream, always have HUGE character issues. Because their beliefs can't be supported without extreme dishonesty, to themselves and everyone else. And ruthlessness. Contempt for democracy and belief in the rightness of subverting elections for the good of the people are typical. As for judgement!

Beliefs based on truth and considered valid by mainstream thinkers don't draw that kind of extremist. Only they can see what they do.

Really, what sensible Democrat believes Democrats are really just as bad as Republicans -- or actually worse for the country because we pretend to be better? We know better. It'd be crazy to believe that... Even more so to believe justified in doing whatever was necessary to rid our nation of our pernicious influence.

As for bathmouthing, we can't expect Turner to repeat her disastrous "bowl of shit" slip of how she really feels about OH-11's Democratic voters. She's back to selling herself as the bestest Democrat of us all.

Hope she chokes on it often.

[oasis]

43. Nina's still selling her b.s., but less and less are buying. nt

[Hortensis]

47. :) That bad smell lingers.

[Vinca]

44. I can't stand her. Hope she loses again.

[oasis]

45. She'll lose, but not before pocketing plentiful donor money for her efforts.

[betsuni]

65. The rule: when you have the same policy goals as Democrats but can't admit it, go after character.

Demonize them as corrupt, immoral, evil, racist, wealthy elites who hate the working class, a greater roadblock to progress than Republicans. The rule since 2016. Use the word "progressive" to mean anti-establishment, Democrats being the enemy establishment. Of course Nina will have to tone it down, but it's always there. The whole "revolution" scam is based on it. Democrats "take" bad money and all PACs helping them get elected are nefarious, but your campaign contributions and PACs are nice innocent grassroots.

[oasis]

67. 100% This. nt