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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSmack talking Nina Turner up next on Jonsthan Capehart's MSNBC show.
Let's see if she tones down her trashing of Democrats.
Walleye
(30,573 posts)Cha
(295,543 posts)Sanders Campaign Co-Chair Nina Turner Rips Biden: Choosing Between Him and Trump is Like Eating From a Bowl of Sh*t
https://www.mediaite.com/news/sanders-campaign-co-chair-nina-turner-rips-biden-choosing-between-him-and-trump-is-like-eating-from-a-bowl-of-sht/
That's how "unhelpful" she is.
oasis
(49,108 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,362 posts)my go to when MSNBC goes 'rogue.'
Besides, I'd rather hear Snowmagedden reruns on an endless loop than her.
oasis
(49,108 posts)as a candidate Democrats could ever trust again.
Cha
(295,543 posts)And a big ALOHA!
Cha
(295,543 posts)Did Capehart have any pushback whatsoever about her "dak money" accusation?
oasis
(49,108 posts)better give Shontel equal time. Soon.
Cha
(295,543 posts)shame on him..
Mahalo
oasis
(49,108 posts)Botany
(70,219 posts)She is a nasty person who needs to go away, I think she worked for Jill Stein in 2016, and
people just don't like her.
oasis
(49,108 posts)Democrats to send her to congress.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)calling for people to abandon the Democratic Party with tRump and the white billionaire's party as the alternative.
That's what I mean about extreme behavior. I can't even imagine how anyone could passionately believe that was a good thing, but some did, still do, and would do it again. After all, we're still here, noble mission unachieved.
Botany
(70,219 posts)I wouldn't be surprised if the GOP/Russia pays her to be a pain in the ass to real democrats.
oasis
(49,108 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)With big money and big name recognition, the seat was considered hers to lose. She lost when local voters learned more about HER and what she's been up to, and all the big money didn't save her.
I've read she's considered to be a much longer shot this time. Her district did a good job in electing Shontel Brown, who proudly signed the infrastructure bill two days after being sworn in. A lot of projects and jobs creation are being funded for their area and kicking off soon.
Go, Shontel!
Demsrule86
(68,217 posts)Shontel's district so we rolled up our sleeves and went to work. Nina helped with that ridiculous anti-Democratic (and Biden) van she used.
Cha
(295,543 posts)Killer Mike Blew it Too..
Thanks for helping to get Shontel Brown elected, Dems!
Celerity
(42,446 posts)attacking Turner and supporting Brown, a figure that rose to over $2 million by the end of the primary, $1 million of which was for television advertisements.
The Jewish Democratic Council of America spent five figures targeting Jewish voters in support of Brown. As of late July, the Working Families Party pledged to spend at least $150,000 for Turner via its Super PAC.
By the end of the campaign, outside advertisement spending supporting Turner or opposing Brown totaled $900,000 and outside advertisement spending supporting Brown or opposing Turner totaled $2.9 million.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Ohio%27s_11th_congressional_district_special_election
Not a Turner fangirl at all (she is far too much of a bomb thrower/chaos agent, as I said here back during the primary) but there is a paper trail that dispels your claim.
oasis
(49,108 posts)She has no trouble speaking out about what's wrong with Dem leadership.
Celerity
(42,446 posts)of course she did, that us why she made the claim
Yes, she is bad news, I SO hope she doesn't win this rematch, and I also will never forget the false attacks she made against Pete in the 2020 Dem POTUS primaries, along with the trashiest of the TYT assholes.
Far beyond talking shit, Turner would likely be the one House Rep who IF it came down to one vote needed, would fuck us (unlike even the Squad, who I think would not do a non symbolic vote actual blocking vote, although Rashida Tlaib would worry me, and I hope she goes down as well, as she is another far too loose of a cannon)
oasis
(49,108 posts)Celerity
(42,446 posts)Did you expect Turner to read raw, itemised text and data from FEC filings for 5 minutes whilst conducting a live interview on national telly?
I am going to end this colloquy, as it is now past the point of logical narrative.
As I stated, I hope Turner loses, as she is a menace.
Nixie
(16,914 posts)a real Democrat.
Celerity
(42,446 posts)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_money
Jewish Democratic Council of America
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Democratic_Council_of_America
Formation November 2017; 4 years ago
Tax ID no. 821919054
Legal status 501(c)(4) non-profit organization
New IRS Rule Allows Many Nonprofits to Withhold Donor Information From the IRS
https://www.nossaman.com/newsroom-insights-new-irs-rule-allows-many-nonprofits-to-withhold-donor-iInformation-from-the-IRS
On May 26, 2020, the U.S. Treasury released Final Regulations on donor disclosure requirements that shield many nonprofits except 501(c)(3) charities and 527 political organizations from the requirement to disclose the names of significant donors on Schedule B (Schedule of Contributors) to their annual Form 990 returns. The Final Regulations were expected: The IRS had tried to implement these rules 2 years ago without regulations in Revenue Procedure 2018-38, but the federal district court in Montana vacated that guidance in Bullock v. IRS for failure to follow Administrative Procedure Act rulemaking requirements (as our earlier e-alert noted).
As of May 28, 2020, eligible nonprofits, including 501(c)(4) advocacy and social welfare organizations, 501(c)(5) labor and agricultural organizations, and 501(c)(6) trade organizations, need not disclose the names of donors to the IRS when they file annual Form 990 returns. For many nonprofits whose Form 990 deadline (original, or with extension) fell after March 31 but before July 15, 2020, the IRS extended that deadline to July 15, 2020 in response to COVID-19 (as we noted here), and those nonprofits can now rely on the Final Regulations in filing these delayed returns. As a practical matter, the Final Regulations do not change how affected nonprofits approach Schedule B from last years filings because Revenue Procedure 2018-38 stated that the IRS would not enforce the Schedule B donor disclosure rule against nonprofits who did not identify donors in reliance on the IRS guidance.
Nixie
(16,914 posts)That name seems more forthcoming than the PAC's supporting Nina, which she fails to mention, of course. What's wrong with Jewish Dems supporting Democrats?? One of Nina's PACS is called "Working Family Party." Their "dark money" is fine, of course.
Retreating into formal definitions doesn't really change the tone and inferences of the blame game with the "dark money" accusations, which is to imply that corrupt forces defeated Nina, when the honest reality is that she was rejected by voters.
Nixie
(16,914 posts)This is what my comments referred to about her word games. She got called out on this one, but it goes to her mindset and how she tries to imply evil and corruption to shade people. Copy and paste of formal definitions doesn't take into account people like her who manipulate.
https://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/news/local_news/turners-evil-money-comment-riles-jewish-leaders/article_d1efcf24-fadf-11eb-a629-9b2e75fc2156.html
"Nina Turner, who ignited a national conversation on social media with her use of the term evil money in her Aug. 3 concession speech, is taking heat from some local Jewish leaders."
Although Turners staff sought to clarify her election night remarks, indicating she was speaking about corporate money, Republican money and Trump allies money, words matter, Shapiro wrote in an Aug. 10 email to the CJN. Intentionally or unintentionally, the language she employed rings of historic antisemitic tropes. There is no place for bigotry, hate or antisemitism in our public discourse. It is the responsibility of political figures to condemn and address antisemitism, and that means taking extra care with phrasing that can be offensive or derogatory. AJC Cleveland has reached out to Turner to discuss issues of concern.
oasis
(49,108 posts)Nixie
(16,914 posts)Nixie
(16,914 posts)in support of a real Democrat? Who was her opponent? Huh?
oasis
(49,108 posts)Nixie
(16,914 posts)it's okay. Just not okay when she gets crushed because people didn't want her.
Celerity
(42,446 posts)qualitative (ie good or bad money) judgement about either side's financing, I only listed quantitative figures.
I am not a Turner supporter in the slightest (again as stated above and back during the primary as well), so your projection is in error. I am glad she lost.
Nixie
(16,914 posts)used to infer corruption where none exists. I wasn't referring at all to who you supported. But it's good to hear you have Nina figured out.
comradebillyboy
(10,114 posts)Nixie
(16,914 posts)anyone or everyone else without having to justify their own questionable motives. It's so overdone at this point that only the simpletons will bite on this one anymore. She is really a phony person considering her actual voting history.
oasis
(49,108 posts)what registered the highest on my " Nina b.s. meter".
Nixie
(16,914 posts)to their opponent is corrupt. It's their generalized catch-all smear and it's a very dishonest scam at this point. We know her voting her history.
Cha
(295,543 posts)wouldn't think of Losing Gracefully.
What's Capeheart saying about her Trash talk?
iemanja
(52,999 posts)Turner is not telling the truth.
hlthe2b
(101,539 posts)on DU or elsewhere. Turner or "Turncoat," it is all the same (and no, DU only requires that we support Democrats--specifically elected Democrats or those who have won current primaries, so I violate NOTHING).
oasis
(49,108 posts)Demsrule86
(68,217 posts)annihilating her in the Congressional races...she is not a Democrat but is the head of and a member of the People's Party.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and she'll finally give up seeking power through the Democratic Party.
Go get her.
Demsrule86
(68,217 posts)Demsrule86
(68,217 posts)Emile
(21,550 posts)oasis
(49,108 posts)Emile
(21,550 posts)Demsrule86
(68,217 posts)Demsrule86
(68,217 posts)the House election and maybe finally go away.
oasis
(49,108 posts)Demsrule86
(68,217 posts)BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Im just not that into you.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)That's all anyone needs to know about her. Honestly, I'm just astounded that ANY politician thinks it's a good idea to be associated with her. When anyone is chummy with Nina Fucking Turner, it really reveals a LOT to me about their character.
oasis
(49,108 posts)know there's no chance she'll unseat Shontell.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)I guess there's always someone who hates the Democratic party as much as she does... and is willing to put their money where HER big mouth is.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(106,789 posts)betsuni
(25,063 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)everything mainstream because it's mainstream, always have HUGE character issues. Because their beliefs can't be supported without extreme dishonesty, to themselves and everyone else. And ruthlessness. Contempt for democracy and belief in the rightness of subverting elections for the good of the people are typical. As for judgement!
Beliefs based on truth and considered valid by mainstream thinkers don't draw that kind of extremist. Only they can see what they do.
Really, what sensible Democrat believes Democrats are really just as bad as Republicans -- or actually worse for the country because we pretend to be better? We know better. It'd be crazy to believe that... Even more so to believe justified in doing whatever was necessary to rid our nation of our pernicious influence.
As for bathmouthing, we can't expect Turner to repeat her disastrous "bowl of shit" slip of how she really feels about OH-11's Democratic voters. She's back to selling herself as the bestest Democrat of us all.
Hope she chokes on it often.
oasis
(49,108 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Vinca
(50,150 posts)oasis
(49,108 posts)betsuni
(25,063 posts)Demonize them as corrupt, immoral, evil, racist, wealthy elites who hate the working class, a greater roadblock to progress than Republicans. The rule since 2016. Use the word "progressive" to mean anti-establishment, Democrats being the enemy establishment. Of course Nina will have to tone it down, but it's always there. The whole "revolution" scam is based on it. Democrats "take" bad money and all PACs helping them get elected are nefarious, but your campaign contributions and PACs are nice innocent grassroots.