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Fri Feb 25, 2022, 11:38 AM

Ukraine is the single, exact reason that Putin installed Trump.

It's no coincidence that Trump selected Ukraine as the target of his cockamamie blackmail/"investigation" scheme.

He was acting on direct orders from Putin. The goal had nothing to do with the fake investigation (though Trump might possibly have believed that). It was all about leaving Ukraine defenseless.

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Reply Ukraine is the single, exact reason that Putin installed Trump. (Original post)
lagomorph777 Feb 2022 OP
lapfog_1 Feb 2022 #1
Wingus Dingus Feb 2022 #2
Wounded Bear Feb 2022 #3
PoliticAverse Feb 2022 #4
lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #5
PoliticAverse Feb 2022 #8
lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #9
PortTack Feb 2022 #11
NightWatcher Feb 2022 #6
lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #7
obamanut2012 Feb 2022 #10

Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)

Fri Feb 25, 2022, 11:41 AM

1. yup...

that was the plan

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Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)

Fri Feb 25, 2022, 11:42 AM

2. I think you may be right.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)

Fri Feb 25, 2022, 11:42 AM

3. Probably right...nt

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Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)

Fri Feb 25, 2022, 11:42 AM

4. Then Putin erred because Trump sold anti-tank weapons to Ukraine something even Obama didn't do. n/t

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 25, 2022, 11:54 AM

5. $39 million, after witholding $400 million, and only under threat of impeachment.

I'd say Putin got a pretty good deal.

It's also no coincidence that Trump spent his entire term doing everything he could to weaken NATO. That was specifically intended to make the Ukraine invasion easier. Trump may not have had the mental faculties to grasp the whole plan (and likely Putin didn't share the whole plan to blabbermouth Trump). But Trump did happily follow Putin's orders.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #5)

Fri Feb 25, 2022, 12:00 PM

8. What would a straightened NATO do about an invasion of Ukraine? Biden is President...

and NATO isn't taking any military action to stop Russia.

The only country that is going to militarily stop the invasion of Ukraine is Ukraine itself.

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 25, 2022, 12:03 PM

9. You underestimate NATO - don't make the same mistake as Putin.

NATO members are already ramping up support.

If you are trying to say that support only counts if NATO is firing the weapons, you are really missing the big picture.

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 25, 2022, 12:13 PM

11. President Zelensky doesn't want NATO or US boots on the ground in Ukraine.

With good reason. Their country could become an entire wasteland permanently if the US and Russia face off...

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Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)

Fri Feb 25, 2022, 11:56 AM

6. He was supposed to sink NATO so putty could put the soviet union back together.

He underestimated how strong NATO is.

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 25, 2022, 11:57 AM

7. But he did try really hard.

He can't help it that he's mentally incompetent.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)

Fri Feb 25, 2022, 12:03 PM

10. Yup, Trump and Brexit

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