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Botany

(70,422 posts)
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:36 AM Feb 2022

Rule # 1 do not get into a fight whose people looked like this (cossack)



Don’t fuck with the Cossacks …….

We will lay our soul and body for the cherished freedom.
Cossack blood will raise the nation of the joyous people. Ukraine Anthem

or their grandmothers talk like this.

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Rule # 1 do not get into a fight whose people looked like this (cossack) (Original Post) Botany Feb 2022 OP
Off the top of my head, Cossacks opposed Bolshevik takeover in 1917 bucolic_frolic Feb 2022 #1
There is no losing for Ukraine. They will survive and rise and be free in the end. liberalla Feb 2022 #2
I would like the Ukrainians to drive the Russians from Crimea* too. Botany Feb 2022 #7
✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ n/t msfiddlestix Feb 2022 #9
Those Russians can go, too geardaddy Feb 2022 #20
Quote of the month. calimary Feb 2022 #27
Or brothers who look like this. bottomofthehill Feb 2022 #3
Holy Crap! Botany Feb 2022 #5
They both run about 6'6 and 250 bottomofthehill Feb 2022 #6
Probably more dangerous. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2022 #21
Cossacks were instrumental in the pogroms that killed many thousands of Jews mitch96 Feb 2022 #4
Correct llashram Feb 2022 #14
DEFINITELY not nice guys DFW Feb 2022 #15
Yule Brenner played a cossack. jaxexpat Feb 2022 #18
OMG you just made me look that up! BumRushDaShow Feb 2022 #22
Just a little fact behind the humor. jaxexpat Feb 2022 #32
Looks like an interesting "cast of thousands, big budget" movie (which were popular back then) BumRushDaShow Feb 2022 #33
I'm ready for my pogram, Mr DeMille. jaxexpat Feb 2022 #34
Mmmmmmmm. Yul Brenner. chowder66 Feb 2022 #31
Yule Brenner played a cossack. jaxexpat Feb 2022 #19
Thank you for this, they were not nice guys uppityperson Feb 2022 #28
Toxic testosterone syndrome meThinks...nt mitch96 Feb 2022 #30
This geardaddy Feb 2022 #35
Those pants are rather fashionable in some circles. milestogo Feb 2022 #8
Hammer time! ret5hd Feb 2022 #10
LOL! calimary Feb 2022 #29
Lots of Russian Cossacks, too. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2022 #11
just have to share again this violinist' beautifully playing Ukraine Anthem msfiddlestix Feb 2022 #12
It is wonderful! I saw this last night ... a British vocal group's song to the people of Ukraine Botany Feb 2022 #13
Absolutely Exquisite! msfiddlestix Feb 2022 #16
DUer Tom Yossarian Joad posted it last night. Botany Feb 2022 #17
I agree with making the return of Crimea a part of any peace negotiations Scalded Nun Feb 2022 #23
A Grandmother was giving them seed!:) True Blue American Feb 2022 #24
In a historical note, Cossacks also led pogroms against Jews. AZLD4Candidate Feb 2022 #25
I learned rather a lot about Cossacks in my Russian history class Jilly_in_VA Feb 2022 #26

liberalla

(9,215 posts)
2. There is no losing for Ukraine. They will survive and rise and be free in the end.
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:53 AM
Feb 2022

I fervently hope Zelensky is still there to lead them forward.

Botany

(70,422 posts)
7. I would like the Ukrainians to drive the Russians from Crimea* too.
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:13 AM
Feb 2022

* I know that there are ethnic Russians in the Crimea and that they have been there
for generations and I hope they are protected and can stay there if the Russian troops
are driven out.


Zelensky: "The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride," Zelensky told the US, according to the embassy.

geardaddy

(24,926 posts)
20. Those Russians can go, too
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:48 AM
Feb 2022

as far as I'm concerned. They were shipped in when Stalin essentially ethnically cleansed Crimea of its indigenous Tatar population.

bottomofthehill

(8,315 posts)
6. They both run about 6'6 and 250
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:11 AM
Feb 2022

The problem is, in a shooting war a little guy with a gun is just as dangerous as these Giants.

DFW

(54,255 posts)
15. DEFINITELY not nice guys
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:33 AM
Feb 2022

There is a many-versed traditional song about their folk hero, Stenka Razin.

It's about a guy who was little more than a brutal Volga River marauder. In the song, he marries a noble princess, and quickly there is dissent in the ranks. His crew grumbles that he spent only one with her and became a woman himself. Stenka Razin hears this. Claiming he would give his head for the cause, he decides that, so there will be no conflict among free people, he sings out, "Volga, Volga, mother river, have you ever seen a present from a Don Cossak?" Whereupon he tosses his beautiful new bride overboard into the fast-running waves of the Volga.

«Волга, Волга, мать родная
Волга – русская река
Не видала ты подарка
От донского казака!

Чтобы не было раздора
Между вольными людьми
Волга, Волга, мать родная
На, красавицу прими!»

Мощным взмахом поднимает
Он красавицу княжну
И за борт ее бросает
В набежавшую волну

And the Teabaggers think THEY are the "don't tread on me" crowd. The Cossacks would use Teabaggers for teabags.

jaxexpat

(6,786 posts)
18. Yule Brenner played a cossack.
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:47 AM
Feb 2022

He shot Tony Curtis right through his armor. Tony just stood there, a Polish sympathizer. That has nothing to do with anything, I know.

BumRushDaShow

(128,257 posts)
33. Looks like an interesting "cast of thousands, big budget" movie (which were popular back then)
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 12:45 PM
Feb 2022

like the Cecil B. DeMille extravaganzas (although he had died before that was made)... given the current events.

jaxexpat

(6,786 posts)
19. Yule Brenner played a cossack.
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:47 AM
Feb 2022

He shot Tony Curtis right through his armor. Tony just stood there, a Polish sympathizer. That has nothing to do with anything, I know.

msfiddlestix

(7,270 posts)
12. just have to share again this violinist' beautifully playing Ukraine Anthem
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:26 AM
Feb 2022



I've just learned to play it, and also transposed to Dm - a friend sent this on our local email list..

msfiddlestix

(7,270 posts)
16. Absolutely Exquisite!
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:41 AM
Feb 2022

Those harmonies sends chills in a good way and tears..

thank you. reminds me of Welsh singers, who's musical cultural instrument is essentially the Voice, along with the harp.

But this is quite the find. thank you!






AZLD4Candidate

(5,639 posts)
25. In a historical note, Cossacks also led pogroms against Jews.
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 11:33 AM
Feb 2022

So to a Jew like me, that word has different meaning.

Jilly_in_VA

(9,931 posts)
26. I learned rather a lot about Cossacks in my Russian history class
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 11:35 AM
Feb 2022

They are not an ethnicity. They are more like a gang than anything else, and basically any Russian, Belarusian, or Ukrainian male can become one, but once you're in, you're in, and all your descendants after you. There are rather brutal initiation rites, apparently. They pride themselves on their fighting and riding ability and most (not all) are devoutly religious (surprised? They held on to the church through Communist years.). The tsars had Cossack bodyguards. So does Putin (I learned that from my priest, who learned it from Putin's first wife's priest). It's very possible that Zelenskyy does too. They don't dress in traditional clothing any more except for exhibitions and parades.

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