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JoanofArgh

(14,971 posts)
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 05:22 PM Feb 2022

Macron talked to Putin today


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I am in constant communication with President Zelenskyy. I would like to commend his great sense of responsibility. At the latter’s request and given the humanitarian situation, I called President Putin.
3:16 PM · Feb 28, 2022·


To President Putin, I reiterated the international community’s demand to end the Russian offensive against Ukraine and insisted on the need to immediately establish a ceasefire.

With discussions starting between the Russian and Ukrainian delegations, I asked him to stop all strikes and attacks on civilians and residential areas, preserve all civilian infrastructure and secure main roads. He confirmed his willingness to commit to these points.

I demanded compliance with international humanitarian law and the protection of civilian populations, such as aid delivery. In this respect, France submitted a resolution to the United Nations Security Council.

To prevent the situation from worsening, I suggested to President Putin that we stay in contact over the coming days. We will continue our discussions.



Putin is probably full of shit but we'll see.
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Mike Nelson

(9,951 posts)
3. I think...
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 05:29 PM
Feb 2022

... that's good. It seems ludicrous, like sending someone to talk "peace" with Putin's people at the border, but this could keep the dictator from making some horrific escalation.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
4. Its is said that at this point, Putin needs an out, to turn back while saving face.
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 05:31 PM
Feb 2022

Because his narcissistic megalomaniacal ego requires it in order to halt his threat.

Macron knows its just a big head game with authoritarians like Putin.

Best of luck, Pres Macron.
Hope it is successful.

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
12. Agreed, I think Macron has started the ball rolling
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 05:46 PM
Feb 2022

by tying a peaceful resolution to protecting the innocents and infrastructure.

Sanity Claws

(21,846 posts)
6. Nothing about what Putin said
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 05:40 PM
Feb 2022

Even if Putin had said something, you would have to be a fool to believe him.

FakeNoose

(32,630 posts)
7. Russia needs to stop hitting the nuclear waste storage areas too
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 05:41 PM
Feb 2022

Stay away from Chernobyl by all means.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
9. IMO, this is Russian lip service.
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 05:44 PM
Feb 2022

A phone call doesn’t mend anything. Putin is calculating how he can use Macron to gain an advantage with the UKR invasion. Putin is NOT in negotiating mode. He’s still bombing civilian targets. Putin wants to turn everyone into his useful idiots.

 

Santeria

(18 posts)
13. Macron is being played by Russia and coming off as weak.
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 05:49 PM
Feb 2022

He really seems to believe be can reason with Putin but it's making him look very naive, especially on the heels of their discussions prior to the invasion - like stating the Biden and Putin agreed to meet, which turned out to not be true.

He's so set on being the hero in all of this that he's coming off as very weak or naive.

spooky3

(34,438 posts)
15. I disagree. I think he knows the complexity and difficulty of
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 05:59 PM
Feb 2022

the situation. I think he’s trying to keep communication open because there is little cost in doing that, and there is always a chance a solution may be found.

I see him as a good man trying hard to deal with an untrustworthy, possibly unbalanced dictator with nuclear weapons.

 

Santeria

(18 posts)
21. I think he's a good man. Just very naive - or with an inflated ego.
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 07:08 PM
Feb 2022

He has been burned twice by Putin - the first by parroting Putin's line that Russia wasn't planning on invading and then the second by saying the US and Russia had agreed to meet - only to have Putin invade a couple days later.

There is nothing gained communicating with Putin at this point. Zilch. All Macron is doing is giving Putin an avenue to appear as if he's willing to talk with western leaders.

DFW

(54,341 posts)
14. I think Putin must be thinking that the Ides of March are approaching
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 05:49 PM
Feb 2022

He must also be thinking that he needs to save some serious face here if he doesn't want to end up like that last dictator who was told to beware the Ides of March, and didn't heed the warning.

DFW

(54,341 posts)
19. If you look at a map, it's scary how close it all is.
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 06:04 PM
Feb 2022

Let a nuke explode anywhere in Europe, and we get contaminated.

When Chernobyl blew, we were told not to eat anything that grew on any European farm north of Spain for almost a year.

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