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Demovictory9

(32,445 posts)
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 07:15 AM Mar 2022

UPDATE!! ARRESTED! rightwing Trumpster Indiana teacher slaps student causing his head to hit wall

Last edited Fri Mar 4, 2022, 05:14 AM - Edit history (2)

UPDATE>>> MUGSHOT https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/indiana-teacher-hit-student-arrested-231250430.html










https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/video-shows-indiana-teacher-slam-student-s-head-against-a-wall-before-he-collapses-to-the-ground/ar-AAUwGtS

The video begins with Hosinski following the student, who is barely as tall as the teacher’s chest. Hosinski breaks into a jog to catch up with the student and reaches him after rounding a corner.

Once Hosinski catches up to the student, he grabs the student by his backpack and roughly pushes him into the wall.

The next sequence of events comes fast, as Hosinski points his finger in the face of the student before quickly delivering an open-handed strike to the child’s face, causing his head to rock back into the wall and knocking his hoodie down.

After hitting the student, Hosinskiy grabs him again and begins to walk him down the hallway, but something isn’t right.

In the video, the student can be seen pressing his hand to his head and stumbling forward, after only a few steps, the child collapses out of Hosinski’s grip and onto the ground.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/video-shows-indiana-teacher-slam-student-s-head-against-a-wall-before-he-collapses-to-the-ground/ar-AAUwGtS?ocid=msedgntp

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“Hosinski told the class Hillary and Obama are criminals, President Donald Trump is great, and Democrats are liars. He told them abortion should be illegal,” the statement complaint alleged. “My student says ‘he told the class Bill Clinton’s friend takes little girls to a sex island and anyone who finds out is killed. Korea has nukes, something about Muslims taking over, and something about gay people getting married.’”

https://www.southbendtribune.com/story/news/education/2019/09/17/complaints-prompt-removal-of-political-religious-materials-from-jimtown-high-school-classroom/117127876/

An Indiana 'Teacher of the Year' was caught on camera hitting a student. Now he's allowed to retire early.


ELKHART, Ind. — An Indiana school board voted unanimously this week to grant an early retirement to Jimtown High School teacher Mike Hosinski, who was captured on video striking a student on the head during morning classes last week.

Hosinski will be allowed to retire, effective last Friday, and collect his pension. The decision was applauded by dozens of parents who defended the longtime social studies teacher during a school board meeting at Jimtown High in Elkhart.

Parents who spoke at the meeting said Hosinski's actions came as a shock but were indicative of a larger problem, pointing to what they claimed was a lack of support for teachers who face repeated disciplinary problems among students.

Before the meeting started, a man who identified himself as the student's father entered the room fuming and shouting expletives at administrators. He was eventually escorted from the room.

"A grown, 280-pound man smacked my son in the face!" the parent screamed after Baugo Superintendent Byron Sanders approached him.

The man later told a South Bend Tribune reporter that his attorney would have more to say about the incident.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/03/02/mike-hosinski-jimtown-high-school-teacher-elkhart-indiana-student-hit/9340123002/


Earlier that day, students staged a walkout at the school in support of the teacher many described as 'laid back.'

Not one parent publicly spoke out against Hosinski, WNDU reported.

'I still back Mike Hosinski,' a parent said hours after the video was released.

Hosinski had been a teacher for 40 years and named Teacher of the Year at Jimtown in 2020, according to WNDU.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10571705/amp/Shocking-moment-high-school-teacher-slaps-student-face.html
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UPDATE!! ARRESTED! rightwing Trumpster Indiana teacher slaps student causing his head to hit wall (Original Post) Demovictory9 Mar 2022 OP
Allowed to retire early and collect his pension stumpysbear Mar 2022 #1
slap was for wearing a hoodie to class Demovictory9 Mar 2022 #4
Unless that school has its own pension plan radical noodle Mar 2022 #43
Agreed. Lots of comments here that he shouldn't get the pension, too. But... thesquanderer Mar 2022 #49
Exactly... radical noodle Mar 2022 #54
Absolutey Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2022 #63
If he's been teaching 40 years radical noodle Mar 2022 #78
Not in Indiana Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2022 #81
So many variables depending where one lives radical noodle Mar 2022 #91
Lock him up IngridsLittleAngel Mar 2022 #2
Criminal charges could be coming for Jimtown HS teacher who slapped student, attorney says Demovictory9 Mar 2022 #3
Good IngridsLittleAngel Mar 2022 #5
Criminal and civil, we hope. Incarcerate and sue. Auggie Mar 2022 #12
It depends on Indiana law... Trueblue Texan Mar 2022 #17
If I were that boy's parents, civil charges would be close behind... dixiechiken1 Mar 2022 #32
"could be" more of the US justice system telling non whites they aint shit. uponit7771 Mar 2022 #71
Pics of stickers in one room. edbermac Mar 2022 #6
And they accuse us of putting radical ideological zealots in classrooms. JHB Mar 2022 #14
School district at fault findeerror Mar 2022 #23
Wtf GrapesOfWrath Mar 2022 #68
The title appears to be misleading. The article seems to say that he was a "teacher niyad Mar 2022 #76
Even more disturbing than this teacher's behavior is PA Democrat Mar 2022 #7
But teaching about racial injustice teach1st Mar 2022 #8
it seems extreme that he would stopdiggin Mar 2022 #24
Of Course Trumpscum Support Trumpscum DanieRains Mar 2022 #36
Yes, I found that very disturbing PatSeg Mar 2022 #44
I suspect this is a deep red area where most of the parents agree with him. haele Mar 2022 #87
F*****g Indiana, man. Aristus Mar 2022 #52
His warped, right wingnut world view makes him qualified childfreebychoice Mar 2022 #9
I hope the student ends up with the pension money and Ilsa Mar 2022 #10
Allowed to retire and collect? What does that say about the people of Indiana? infullview Mar 2022 #11
Nothing could take his pension away from him radical noodle Mar 2022 #46
Even a teacher who is dismissed with cause? infullview Mar 2022 #50
Hey, I don't make the rules radical noodle Mar 2022 #53
The union can't take away his pension. Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2022 #64
Yes, Even Then ProfessorGAC Mar 2022 #75
That depends on the state. The Jungle 1 Mar 2022 #70
I was speaking specifically of Indiana radical noodle Mar 2022 #79
Sue his ass and take his pension. Also Joinfortmill Mar 2022 #13
And then sue the shit out of the district and make them afraid to let this kind of Scrivener7 Mar 2022 #15
Teachers also have qualified immunity! The Jungle 1 Mar 2022 #42
That doesn't mean teacher's can do anything they want radical noodle Mar 2022 #48
Correct it just makes it harder to achieve civil justice. The Jungle 1 Mar 2022 #56
This needs to be front page news in every town.. n/t TeamProg Mar 2022 #16
Teacher should move to Russia, that's where Fascist live! Emile Mar 2022 #18
Correct The Jungle 1 Mar 2022 #41
Oh they live here too! Caliman73 Mar 2022 #67
And they complain about CRT being taught in schools!?!? XacerbatedDem Mar 2022 #19
I know it's not allowed, but we need a screening of all teachers for religious extremism. Lonestarblue Mar 2022 #20
Holy hell ... Delphinus Mar 2022 #21
This out of control nut case should get jail time. oasis Mar 2022 #22
If I were the kid's father, he would be more worried about me than charges. Chainfire Mar 2022 #25
Yep. Very worried. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Mar 2022 #33
As a child with 9 years of Catholic school in the 70's skydive forever Mar 2022 #26
its 2022 Demovictory9 Mar 2022 #28
Are you sure about that? nt Carlitos Brigante Mar 2022 #29
I remember every teacher who ever hit me! The Jungle 1 Mar 2022 #39
Smacking him in the head Bettie Mar 2022 #69
BS! Yes, the teachers were often abusive, but you turned out okay anyway, so that niyad Mar 2022 #40
We'll said. SharonClark Mar 2022 #61
Yeah, I had the sh*t beat out of me regularly Farmer-Rick Mar 2022 #51
You turned out supporting assaulting children, though. NYC Liberal Mar 2022 #58
this comment is very disturbing Celerity Mar 2022 #62
Thinking it's okay to do this to children kcr Mar 2022 #77
So, you are okay with assaulting minors obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #88
This story is disturbing on so many levels. NoMoreRepugs Mar 2022 #27
Why are no criminal charges being brought up against this asshole?? bullwinkle428 Mar 2022 #30
Because in the 70s, the Supremes ruled that beating kids is A OK Farmer-Rick Mar 2022 #55
Funny Aviation Pro Mar 2022 #31
This child has a long history says youtube. The Jungle 1 Mar 2022 #34
He's been teaching for 40 years so I assume he taught some/many of these parents PaulRevere08 Mar 2022 #35
That would never happen Traildogbob Mar 2022 #37
He can spend every dollar of that pension fighting lawsuits. Bring 'em on! n/t rainin Mar 2022 #38
Never hit a child. twodogsbarking Mar 2022 #45
Corporal punishment is still legal in schools in Indiana (and other states). Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2022 #65
Does that overrule federal laws against child abuse? tia uponit7771 Mar 2022 #72
I would assume so, but I do not know. Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2022 #73
Except this isn't considered corporal punishment obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #90
Someone tell the parents about a good lawyer and sue both the teacher and the school administration. UCmeNdc Mar 2022 #47
Father yelled that he has attorney at board meeting Demovictory9 Mar 2022 #57
Maybe cameras in the classrooms are a good thing. Baitball Blogger Mar 2022 #59
No. They are not. Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2022 #66
His pension may be untouchable BUT bluestarone Mar 2022 #60
Exactly. Sue him into oblivion. Happy Hoosier Mar 2022 #83
Fire his sorry ass and send him to prison now! Initech Mar 2022 #74
Indiana teacher who hit student is arrested and could face battery charge - MUGSHOT AT LINK Demovictory9 Mar 2022 #80
Good start, but remember Bettie Mar 2022 #82
Yes! Delphinus Mar 2022 #84
It's been said a lot above, but they can't strip his pension. Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2022 #85
I guess Delphinus Mar 2022 #86
Good. I was hoping he'd face consequences. AngryOldDem Mar 2022 #89

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
43. Unless that school has its own pension plan
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 10:09 AM
Mar 2022

which I doubt, the pensions are controlled by the teacher's union. There's an age requirement and a years-of-teaching requirement that determines when the pension begins payout, and since this guy has taught for 40 years, he's probably already qualified. Also, being fired would not have kept him from getting the pension, so that's just thrown into the story by someone who either doesn't understand the system or wants to sow outrage.

thesquanderer

(11,982 posts)
49. Agreed. Lots of comments here that he shouldn't get the pension, too. But...
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 10:34 AM
Mar 2022

...as you said, there are contracts. Retiring after x years (even if earlier than planned), or even getting fired, or even slapping a kid, or even being civilly sued after hitting a kid, or even being criminally prosecuted for hitting a kid, or even being criminally convicted for hitting a kid... Unless it's in the contract, none of that is grounds for withholding pension.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,915 posts)
63. Absolutey
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 02:38 PM
Mar 2022

The reality is that they let him officially retire early instead of meeting the deadlines. All that means is that he can draw his pension now and not wait until the next period that he can go in.

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
78. If he's been teaching 40 years
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:53 PM
Mar 2022

he's almost certainly met the deadlines to receive his pension in Indiana. He should fall into the qualification of age 55 with 30 years of service. If he hasn't met the deadlines nothing the school says about the retirement will give him his pension any sooner.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,915 posts)
81. Not in Indiana
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 10:17 AM
Mar 2022

but we have had teachers that had to retire and they were allowed to take their pension even though they missed the deadline for application on an emergency basis.

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
91. So many variables depending where one lives
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 11:09 AM
Mar 2022

but it's a moot point with this guy. The school board calling it "early retirement" was misleading, and I wonder if they did it purposely or due to ignorance.

 

IngridsLittleAngel

(1,962 posts)
2. Lock him up
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 07:26 AM
Mar 2022

Assault and battery on a minor, at the bare minimum. NO to being allowed to retire. NO to his fucking pension.

How in the hell is this thug even allowed to "teach" such shit in class in the first place? Then to think he's allowed to chase down a student, grab them, shove them into the wall and hit them in the head with enough force that it smacks into a wall?!

Had the student's father whooped this "teacher's" ass? I'd be one of the first to applaud him. He wasn't the one who should've been escorted from the room. Herr Hosinski should've been... in handcuffs.

LOCK. HIS. ASS. UP!

Demovictory9

(32,445 posts)
3. Criminal charges could be coming for Jimtown HS teacher who slapped student, attorney says
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 07:35 AM
Mar 2022
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/criminal-charges-could-be-coming-for-jimtown-hs-teacher-who-slapped-student-attorney-says/ar-AAUtYL5


“It probably ranges from battery which is in consented touching. Depending from there, how extensive the conduct was, how aggressive it was, could be viewed as some other attempt to inflict bodily injury,” Agostino says.
 

IngridsLittleAngel

(1,962 posts)
5. Good
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 07:41 AM
Mar 2022

Because I don't know the law in a far-too-red state like Indiana, but, I know here in California, assault and battery on a minor is a felony, not a misdemeanor. What I saw in the video you posted sure looked like assault and battery to me.

He needs to go to the iron bar hotel, like the rest of the Proud Boys and Oaf Keepers he clearly loves.

Trueblue Texan

(2,424 posts)
17. It depends on Indiana law...
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 08:48 AM
Mar 2022

...lots of states, including Texas are peachy keen, AOK with battering kids at school. Disgusting.

dixiechiken1

(2,113 posts)
32. If I were that boy's parents, civil charges would be close behind...
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:45 AM
Mar 2022

For the teacher AND the school. Early retirement and pension, my ass.

 

findeerror

(16 posts)
23. School district at fault
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:13 AM
Mar 2022

They knew he was acting inappropriately before he even came near the kid - this is wildly inappropriate for a school. He should have been disciplined the minute he put up a sticker. He should not be allowed to collect a pension and should be prosecuted for child abuse.

niyad

(113,228 posts)
76. The title appears to be misleading. The article seems to say that he was a "teacher
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 06:05 PM
Mar 2022

the year" at that school at some point.

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
7. Even more disturbing than this teacher's behavior is
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 07:57 AM
Mar 2022

the support he is getting from other students and parents in the community. This guy has a history of using his classroom to push bigoted and hateful views and even went so far as to display posters and stickers in his classroom espousing his views.

He made hateful statements about poor people and in this town that makes him
Teacher of the Year" material.

In photos obtained by NIA, some of the posters and stickers found in the classroom said things like “Proud to be a conservative,” “Choose life, your mom did” and “Liberalism is a mental disorder.”


The mother said the comments made her child uncomfortable, and he confronted the teacher after Hosinski allegedly said “poor people don’t have jobs but spend money on alcohol and drugs.”

“My student, feeling the need to defend our family, said ‘I’m poor. My dad has a job and my parents don’t spend money on alcohol or drugs,’” the parent reported in the complaint.


https://www.southbendtribune.com/story/news/education/2019/09/17/complaints-prompt-removal-of-political-religious-materials-from-jimtown-high-school-classroom/117127876/

stopdiggin

(11,292 posts)
24. it seems extreme that he would
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:19 AM
Mar 2022

be getting almost unanimous support from the community (including students?). At least that's the way the OP reads. I don't know what that indicates - other than the fact that it's very disturbing.

haele

(12,646 posts)
87. I suspect this is a deep red area where most of the parents agree with him.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 10:28 AM
Mar 2022

According to one of the articles, a parent described him as a "good, Christian man"who was "dedicated to teaching the children about the real world and how to deal with opposing views."
Sounds like a town Faux news drones and Q-berts with not much hope or interest in of a life outside their bubble.
I feel sorry for the kids.

Haele

childfreebychoice

(476 posts)
9. His warped, right wingnut world view makes him qualified
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 08:02 AM
Mar 2022

to be teacher of the year, in ind...still has backing of parents. Smh.

Ilsa

(61,692 posts)
10. I hope the student ends up with the pension money and
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 08:05 AM
Mar 2022

Hosinski can be a greeter at WalMart, if they take permit felons to work in the front.

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
46. Nothing could take his pension away from him
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 10:22 AM
Mar 2022

It's controlled by the union. Nor can a school "give" him his pension or early retirement to allow the collection of the pension. Besides, he's taught 40 years, so is most likely eligible for his pension already and this is not "early" retirement.

infullview

(978 posts)
50. Even a teacher who is dismissed with cause?
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 10:34 AM
Mar 2022

So you're all for the people who came out to support this a-hole? I can't believe that the union doesn't have a morals clause and a way to eject this shithead without compensation.

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
53. Hey, I don't make the rules
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 10:41 AM
Mar 2022

I didn't say it was right or wrong, I'm just saying what is true. And yes, even if the teacher is dismissed with cause. That pension is union controlled and "morals" are so relative that a union would be crazy to include that in requirements. Someone would no doubt say a pro-choice teacher had a "morality" problem.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,915 posts)
64. The union can't take away his pension.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 02:40 PM
Mar 2022

That's a good thing. It's his money he invested.

He's an asshole and shouldn't have been teaching for a while, obviously, but the pension is not something that should be on the table.

ProfessorGAC

(64,988 posts)
75. Yes, Even Then
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 04:39 PM
Mar 2022

Teachers pay into that pension fund. It's a collective fund, but that money is HIS!
The district, government, or the union have no right to that money.
That's why a lawsuit is the viable option.
It's the same most situations I would think.
Take me as an example. I had a 401-A & a 401-K. My stock bonuses & profit sharing went into the first, my deductions from into the latter.
If a couple years before retirement, I came in drunk and poured hot coffee on the CEO, I'd be fired before the coffee cooled. (Hypothetically)
But, those savings were mine. Despite my idiotic act, the company would have no claim on my retirement money.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
70. That depends on the state.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 03:50 PM
Mar 2022

Can you lose a PSERS pension?
The law mandates that all service and benefits payable to a PSERS member be forfeited if the member is found guilty of, or enters a plea of guilty or nolo contendere to, any crime identified in the Forfeiture Act, when the crime is committed through the member's position as a public employee or official or when the ...

This is Pa law. Public employees pension is controlled by the state in Pa. The fund has been horribly mismanaged by the republicans in the state legislature. It is 60 billion in debt. What is interesting is that the pensions for trade unions in Pa are run by the union and they are all solvent.

Scrivener7

(50,935 posts)
15. And then sue the shit out of the district and make them afraid to let this kind of
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 08:31 AM
Mar 2022

crap go on any more.

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
48. That doesn't mean teacher's can do anything they want
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 10:28 AM
Mar 2022

and get by with it.

https://www.nasro.org/news/2021/06/24/news-releases/qualified-immunity-in-public-education/

In Price as next friend of J.K. v. Mueller- Owens, the United States District Court ruled that a school staff member is not entitled to qualified immunity for the use of excessive force against a student.10 In denying the motion to dismiss a lawsuit brought by parents of the student who was forcibly removed from the classroom, the court held that “t is well established that a school administrator or teacher cannot use excessive force against a student.”11 The court noted that “although the undisputed facts show that defendant's initial decision to seize plaintiff and remove her from the classroom was reason- able,… [the student’s] allegations of punching, hitting and slamming her to the ground create a genuine issue of material fact.”12

In Meyers v. Cincinnati Bd. of Education, the United States Court of Appeals ruled that reckless conduct by an elementary school principal and assistant principal eliminated governmental immunity from claims by parents of a third-grade student who committed suicide after several violent incidents at school. 13 The court ruled that immunity under state law was not avail- able for schools that fail to report child abuse, fail to inform parents about prior threats, fail to discipline the student assailants, and fail to call 911 after a serious assault.

Caliman73

(11,728 posts)
67. Oh they live here too!
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 02:44 PM
Mar 2022

We need to be less glib about the fact that a not insignificant portion of our population is turning more and more toward extreme right wing ideology. Fascism benefits from denial and attempts to cast is out of consciousness.

Lonestarblue

(9,963 posts)
20. I know it's not allowed, but we need a screening of all teachers for religious extremism.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 08:56 AM
Mar 2022

The religious right has caused so much damage in this country and continues to do so. No teacher should ever be able to hit a student like that and walk away with no consequences. Imagine the harm this teacher has done over his forty years by teaching propaganda and right-wing religion instead of whatever subject he was supposed to teach. We need politics like this out of schools.

Chainfire

(17,526 posts)
25. If I were the kid's father, he would be more worried about me than charges.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:25 AM
Mar 2022

We had teachers like that in the 60s, but it was ok to abuse kids back then...

skydive forever

(443 posts)
26. As a child with 9 years of Catholic school in the 70's
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:30 AM
Mar 2022

I have mixed feelings about this one. Yeah, the teacher is wrong, but I got a lot worse than that and I survived. And guess what? I didn't turn out to be a little a**hole. Again, mixed feelings.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
39. I remember every teacher who ever hit me!
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 10:03 AM
Mar 2022

Is he an Ahole or is he a child screaming for some mental health help.
What I read in the comments on You Tube, from his classmates, the child has a long history. This was not a one off. Is the school helping him or are they ignoring him and passing him through the system. It is cheaper to ignore him.

Bettie

(16,085 posts)
69. Smacking him in the head
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 03:09 PM
Mar 2022

isn't going to help him.

However, I doubt Indiana has any help available for him and his family. Heck, most states don't have any help for anyone anymore.

niyad

(113,228 posts)
40. BS! Yes, the teachers were often abusive, but you turned out okay anyway, so that
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 10:03 AM
Mar 2022

makes it okay? Are you f'n kidding me?? Child abuse is child abuse, no matter HOW a person turns out. Child abuse teaches children that it is okay for bigger people, people ith power, to beat up on and abuse smaller, less powerful people. And you have "mixed feelings about this". REALLLLLY? Wow. . just. . wow.

I went to catholic schools as well, and if one of the teachers had ever laid a hand on me, that person would have been dealing with my father, who had nothing but contempt and loathing for people who abused children or women.

Farmer-Rick

(10,151 posts)
51. Yeah, I had the sh*t beat out of me regularly
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 10:38 AM
Mar 2022

By teachers, parents and bullies and I turned out OK.

I grew up in the 70s and beatings and violence was just how you treated people weaker, smaller and smarter then you. Bruises, bloody ears, broken teeth, bloody lips, black eyes, broken bones and welts we're just a side affect of all that oh so wholesome corporal punishment. Yeah, so what if you only remember a childhood of pain....you turned out OK.

Don't you think you turned out OK despite the beatings not because of them?

Didn't it hurt when they beat you? Didn't it also hurt your ego, your sense of selfworth and bodily autonomy? Did it really make you behave better? Did it make you feel like you were important and worthwhile when they hurt you?

Since it obviously did hurt you, why would you want to inflict that hurt on others? Yeah, you survived the pain and suffering but what about the kid you are about to hurt? Are they going to have the same strength to keep it together as adults hurt them?

It was wrong that you were hurt as a child. They were wrong for hurting you. You turned out OK because you overcame the pain and suffering not because of it. Why put that pain and suffering on others now?

obamanut2012

(26,064 posts)
88. So, you are okay with assaulting minors
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 10:42 AM
Mar 2022

Because you were assaulted even worse than this kid and you are fine. Except you grew into an adult thinking it was okay for adults in positions of power to assault minors.

What other crimes against minors are okay? If your father raped you, is it okay to have another child's father rape them because, well, YOU TURNED OUT OKAY and survived.

It's okay to make minors work in dangerous conditions....

Your "logic" is literally this. Educate yourself.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
30. Why are no criminal charges being brought up against this asshole??
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:41 AM
Mar 2022


My own parents would have absolutely turned this into a proverbial "federal case", had he done this to me as a student.

Farmer-Rick

(10,151 posts)
55. Because in the 70s, the Supremes ruled that beating kids is A OK
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 10:48 AM
Mar 2022

"In 1977, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in its Ingraham v. Wright decision that school corporal punishment is constitutional, leaving states to decide whether to allow it.

Nineteen U.S. states currently allow public school personnel to use corporal punishment to discipline children from the time they start preschool until they graduate 12th grade;

these states are: Alabama, Arkansas, Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Missouri, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, and Wyoming (Center for Effective Discipline, 2015). A total of 163,3331 children were subject to corporal punishment in these states’ public schools during the 2011–2012 school year."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5766273/#:~:text=Nineteen%20U.S.%20states%20currently%20allow,%2C%20Louisiana%2C%20Missouri%2C%20Mississippi%2C

Aviation Pro

(12,142 posts)
31. Funny
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:41 AM
Mar 2022

I'm a powerlifter and pretty good at it. It's funny that I never seem to be around when one of these psychopathic infants gets all 'chesty'. Maybe the key is that even though I'm pretty mild-mannered in most situations, I still have an intimidation factor around me. The sad fact of the matter is that these fucking assholes only go after the weak and defenseless.

Oh, if that was one of my children, there wouldn't be a hole deep enough for this motherfucker.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
34. This child has a long history says youtube.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:56 AM
Mar 2022

This is not a one off. So it is fair to say the child has issues. How about this school provide some help BEFORE it gets to this point. I am not making any excuses for the right wing nut. He is flat out wrong and should be arrested. He wants to end abortion and beat children. Remember he knew he was on camera.
Why won't this country accept the need to support mental health. There are sick people and we need to help them. That school is probably just passing that kid along to get him out of school. But at least the kid will be in the thoughts and prayers of the right wing nuts.

PaulRevere08

(449 posts)
35. He's been teaching for 40 years so I assume he taught some/many of these parents
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:58 AM
Mar 2022

They have been brainwashed by their preachers, by their teachers, and now by RW propaganda outlets. They have been so indoctrinated that can't function outside their bubble.

Traildogbob

(8,709 posts)
37. That would never happen
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 10:00 AM
Mar 2022

In Texas or Florida. It’s against the law to make a child feel uncomfortable. I am raging sick of this shit. Fuck that ass hole and his supporters. Where the fuck is Covid? You have one job, take away these assholes. I have no idea why the father has not already ended his retirement, for good.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,915 posts)
73. I would assume so, but I do not know.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 04:18 PM
Mar 2022

If it didn't, I don't know why some states would have modified their corporal punishment laws to include parental permission first.

Demovictory9

(32,445 posts)
57. Father yelled that he has attorney at board meeting
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 02:17 PM
Mar 2022

A gazillion of them will contact him.upon aeeing.video

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,915 posts)
66. No. They are not.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 02:43 PM
Mar 2022

There was no camera needed for administration to see the sticks he had up in classroom and to address that.

bluestarone

(16,900 posts)
60. His pension may be untouchable BUT
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 02:29 PM
Mar 2022

I'm sure he owns lots of things that ARE TOUCHABLE!! If it were my child i'd be going after EVERYTHING i could get.

Happy Hoosier

(7,277 posts)
83. Exactly. Sue him into oblivion.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 10:23 AM
Mar 2022

And it's not like Indiana teacher pensions are great. This is a red state. My wife has that pension plan and when she retires, it will not provide a livable income.

Demovictory9

(32,445 posts)
80. Indiana teacher who hit student is arrested and could face battery charge - MUGSHOT AT LINK
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 05:13 AM
Mar 2022
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/indiana-teacher-hit-student-arrested-231250430.html

South Bend Tribune
Thu, March 3, 2022, 4:35 PM·2 min read
ELKHART — The Jimtown High School teacher who was caught on video hitting a student has been arrested, and authorities are recommending a felony charge of battery.

Mike Hosinski, 61, was taken into custody late Thursday afternoon, the Elkhart County Sheriff's Office said in a release.

The release said a recommendation for a felony charge of battery has been sent to the county prosecutor's office.

Bettie

(16,085 posts)
82. Good start, but remember
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 10:23 AM
Mar 2022

this is Indiana, so by the end of the week, they'll probably be throwing a parade in his honor.

I'm betting the kid's family is already getting death threats.

I miss when I believed that most people are actually decent.

Delphinus

(11,830 posts)
84. Yes!
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 10:25 AM
Mar 2022

Strip him of his pension and throw the book at him. How many others did he harm? Looking at the pictures yesterday, I would guess he brainwashed most anyone who was ever in his class.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
89. Good. I was hoping he'd face consequences.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 10:43 AM
Mar 2022

Apparently this kid is a pain in the ass — starts shit on the school bus, etc. But then the video came out and the rest of the kids turned quick.

This guy strikes me as a dark parody of Mr. Hand in “Fast Times At Ridgemont High” and Richard Vernon in “The Breakfast Club”.

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