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UPDATE>>> MUGSHOT https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/indiana-teacher-hit-student-arrested-231250430.htmlhttps://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/video-shows-indiana-teacher-slam-student-s-head-against-a-wall-before-he-collapses-to-the-ground/ar-AAUwGtS
The video begins with Hosinski following the student, who is barely as tall as the teachers chest. Hosinski breaks into a jog to catch up with the student and reaches him after rounding a corner.
Once Hosinski catches up to the student, he grabs the student by his backpack and roughly pushes him into the wall.
The next sequence of events comes fast, as Hosinski points his finger in the face of the student before quickly delivering an open-handed strike to the childs face, causing his head to rock back into the wall and knocking his hoodie down.
After hitting the student, Hosinskiy grabs him again and begins to walk him down the hallway, but something isnt right.
In the video, the student can be seen pressing his hand to his head and stumbling forward, after only a few steps, the child collapses out of Hosinskis grip and onto the ground.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/video-shows-indiana-teacher-slam-student-s-head-against-a-wall-before-he-collapses-to-the-ground/ar-AAUwGtS?ocid=msedgntp
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Hosinski told the class Hillary and Obama are criminals, President Donald Trump is great, and Democrats are liars. He told them abortion should be illegal, the statement complaint alleged. My student says he told the class Bill Clintons friend takes little girls to a sex island and anyone who finds out is killed. Korea has nukes, something about Muslims taking over, and something about gay people getting married.
https://www.southbendtribune.com/story/news/education/2019/09/17/complaints-prompt-removal-of-political-religious-materials-from-jimtown-high-school-classroom/117127876/
An Indiana 'Teacher of the Year' was caught on camera hitting a student. Now he's allowed to retire early.
ELKHART, Ind. An Indiana school board voted unanimously this week to grant an early retirement to Jimtown High School teacher Mike Hosinski, who was captured on video striking a student on the head during morning classes last week.
Hosinski will be allowed to retire, effective last Friday, and collect his pension. The decision was applauded by dozens of parents who defended the longtime social studies teacher during a school board meeting at Jimtown High in Elkhart.
Parents who spoke at the meeting said Hosinski's actions came as a shock but were indicative of a larger problem, pointing to what they claimed was a lack of support for teachers who face repeated disciplinary problems among students.
Before the meeting started, a man who identified himself as the student's father entered the room fuming and shouting expletives at administrators. He was eventually escorted from the room.
"A grown, 280-pound man smacked my son in the face!" the parent screamed after Baugo Superintendent Byron Sanders approached him.
The man later told a South Bend Tribune reporter that his attorney would have more to say about the incident.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/03/02/mike-hosinski-jimtown-high-school-teacher-elkhart-indiana-student-hit/9340123002/
Earlier that day, students staged a walkout at the school in support of the teacher many described as 'laid back.'
Not one parent publicly spoke out against Hosinski, WNDU reported.
'I still back Mike Hosinski,' a parent said hours after the video was released.
Hosinski had been a teacher for 40 years and named Teacher of the Year at Jimtown in 2020, according to WNDU.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10571705/amp/Shocking-moment-high-school-teacher-slaps-student-face.html
stumpysbear
(137 posts)Per a unanimous vote of the school board.
Demovictory9
(32,445 posts)radical noodle
(8,000 posts)which I doubt, the pensions are controlled by the teacher's union. There's an age requirement and a years-of-teaching requirement that determines when the pension begins payout, and since this guy has taught for 40 years, he's probably already qualified. Also, being fired would not have kept him from getting the pension, so that's just thrown into the story by someone who either doesn't understand the system or wants to sow outrage.
thesquanderer
(11,982 posts)...as you said, there are contracts. Retiring after x years (even if earlier than planned), or even getting fired, or even slapping a kid, or even being civilly sued after hitting a kid, or even being criminally prosecuted for hitting a kid, or even being criminally convicted for hitting a kid... Unless it's in the contract, none of that is grounds for withholding pension.
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)The way to "take his pension" is to sue him and win and take it in that roundabout way.
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,915 posts)The reality is that they let him officially retire early instead of meeting the deadlines. All that means is that he can draw his pension now and not wait until the next period that he can go in.
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)he's almost certainly met the deadlines to receive his pension in Indiana. He should fall into the qualification of age 55 with 30 years of service. If he hasn't met the deadlines nothing the school says about the retirement will give him his pension any sooner.
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,915 posts)but we have had teachers that had to retire and they were allowed to take their pension even though they missed the deadline for application on an emergency basis.
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)but it's a moot point with this guy. The school board calling it "early retirement" was misleading, and I wonder if they did it purposely or due to ignorance.
IngridsLittleAngel
(1,962 posts)Assault and battery on a minor, at the bare minimum. NO to being allowed to retire. NO to his fucking pension.
How in the hell is this thug even allowed to "teach" such shit in class in the first place? Then to think he's allowed to chase down a student, grab them, shove them into the wall and hit them in the head with enough force that it smacks into a wall?!
Had the student's father whooped this "teacher's" ass? I'd be one of the first to applaud him. He wasn't the one who should've been escorted from the room. Herr Hosinski should've been... in handcuffs.
LOCK. HIS. ASS. UP!
Demovictory9
(32,445 posts)It probably ranges from battery which is in consented touching. Depending from there, how extensive the conduct was, how aggressive it was, could be viewed as some other attempt to inflict bodily injury, Agostino says.
IngridsLittleAngel
(1,962 posts)Because I don't know the law in a far-too-red state like Indiana, but, I know here in California, assault and battery on a minor is a felony, not a misdemeanor. What I saw in the video you posted sure looked like assault and battery to me.
He needs to go to the iron bar hotel, like the rest of the Proud Boys and Oaf Keepers he clearly loves.
Auggie
(31,156 posts)Trueblue Texan
(2,424 posts)...lots of states, including Texas are peachy keen, AOK with battering kids at school. Disgusting.
dixiechiken1
(2,113 posts)For the teacher AND the school. Early retirement and pension, my ass.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)edbermac
(15,937 posts)JHB
(37,158 posts)findeerror
(16 posts)They knew he was acting inappropriately before he even came near the kid - this is wildly inappropriate for a school. He should have been disciplined the minute he put up a sticker. He should not be allowed to collect a pension and should be prosecuted for child abuse.
Teacher of the Year in Indiana. If that doesnt just say it all
niyad
(113,228 posts)the year" at that school at some point.
PA Democrat
(13,225 posts)the support he is getting from other students and parents in the community. This guy has a history of using his classroom to push bigoted and hateful views and even went so far as to display posters and stickers in his classroom espousing his views.
He made hateful statements about poor people and in this town that makes him
Teacher of the Year" material.
The mother said the comments made her child uncomfortable, and he confronted the teacher after Hosinski allegedly said poor people dont have jobs but spend money on alcohol and drugs.
My student, feeling the need to defend our family, said Im poor. My dad has a job and my parents dont spend money on alcohol or drugs, the parent reported in the complaint.
https://www.southbendtribune.com/story/news/education/2019/09/17/complaints-prompt-removal-of-political-religious-materials-from-jimtown-high-school-classroom/117127876/
teach1st
(5,934 posts)Is indoctrination.
stopdiggin
(11,292 posts)be getting almost unanimous support from the community (including students?). At least that's the way the OP reads. I don't know what that indicates - other than the fact that it's very disturbing.
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)Sorry, I used the word.
PatSeg
(47,368 posts)And he was named "Teacher of the Year"?
haele
(12,646 posts)According to one of the articles, a parent described him as a "good, Christian man"who was "dedicated to teaching the children about the real world and how to deal with opposing views."
Sounds like a town Faux news drones and Q-berts with not much hope or interest in of a life outside their bubble.
I feel sorry for the kids.
Haele
Aristus
(66,310 posts)It's just Mississippi without the Spanish moss...
childfreebychoice
(476 posts)to be teacher of the year, in ind...still has backing of parents. Smh.
Ilsa
(61,692 posts)Hosinski can be a greeter at WalMart, if they take permit felons to work in the front.
infullview
(978 posts)radical noodle
(8,000 posts)It's controlled by the union. Nor can a school "give" him his pension or early retirement to allow the collection of the pension. Besides, he's taught 40 years, so is most likely eligible for his pension already and this is not "early" retirement.
infullview
(978 posts)So you're all for the people who came out to support this a-hole? I can't believe that the union doesn't have a morals clause and a way to eject this shithead without compensation.
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)I didn't say it was right or wrong, I'm just saying what is true. And yes, even if the teacher is dismissed with cause. That pension is union controlled and "morals" are so relative that a union would be crazy to include that in requirements. Someone would no doubt say a pro-choice teacher had a "morality" problem.
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,915 posts)That's a good thing. It's his money he invested.
He's an asshole and shouldn't have been teaching for a while, obviously, but the pension is not something that should be on the table.
ProfessorGAC
(64,988 posts)Teachers pay into that pension fund. It's a collective fund, but that money is HIS!
The district, government, or the union have no right to that money.
That's why a lawsuit is the viable option.
It's the same most situations I would think.
Take me as an example. I had a 401-A & a 401-K. My stock bonuses & profit sharing went into the first, my deductions from into the latter.
If a couple years before retirement, I came in drunk and poured hot coffee on the CEO, I'd be fired before the coffee cooled. (Hypothetically)
But, those savings were mine. Despite my idiotic act, the company would have no claim on my retirement money.
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)Can you lose a PSERS pension?
The law mandates that all service and benefits payable to a PSERS member be forfeited if the member is found guilty of, or enters a plea of guilty or nolo contendere to, any crime identified in the Forfeiture Act, when the crime is committed through the member's position as a public employee or official or when the ...
This is Pa law. Public employees pension is controlled by the state in Pa. The fund has been horribly mismanaged by the republicans in the state legislature. It is 60 billion in debt. What is interesting is that the pensions for trade unions in Pa are run by the union and they are all solvent.
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)My husband was an ISTA member for decades.
Joinfortmill
(14,409 posts)Don't move to Indiana.
Scrivener7
(50,935 posts)crap go on any more.
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)Let that sink in!
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)and get by with it.
https://www.nasro.org/news/2021/06/24/news-releases/qualified-immunity-in-public-education/
In Meyers v. Cincinnati Bd. of Education, the United States Court of Appeals ruled that reckless conduct by an elementary school principal and assistant principal eliminated governmental immunity from claims by parents of a third-grade student who committed suicide after several violent incidents at school. 13 The court ruled that immunity under state law was not avail- able for schools that fail to report child abuse, fail to inform parents about prior threats, fail to discipline the student assailants, and fail to call 911 after a serious assault.
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)TeamProg
(6,101 posts)Emile
(22,639 posts)The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)He is a fascist scum.
Caliman73
(11,728 posts)We need to be less glib about the fact that a not insignificant portion of our population is turning more and more toward extreme right wing ideology. Fascism benefits from denial and attempts to cast is out of consciousness.
XacerbatedDem
(511 posts)Lonestarblue
(9,963 posts)The religious right has caused so much damage in this country and continues to do so. No teacher should ever be able to hit a student like that and walk away with no consequences. Imagine the harm this teacher has done over his forty years by teaching propaganda and right-wing religion instead of whatever subject he was supposed to teach. We need politics like this out of schools.
Delphinus
(11,830 posts)this man should be in jail!
oasis
(49,370 posts)Chainfire
(17,526 posts)We had teachers like that in the 60s, but it was ok to abuse kids back then...
OldBaldy1701E
(5,112 posts)skydive forever
(443 posts)I have mixed feelings about this one. Yeah, the teacher is wrong, but I got a lot worse than that and I survived. And guess what? I didn't turn out to be a little a**hole. Again, mixed feelings.
Demovictory9
(32,445 posts)Carlitos Brigante
(26,500 posts)The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)Is he an Ahole or is he a child screaming for some mental health help.
What I read in the comments on You Tube, from his classmates, the child has a long history. This was not a one off. Is the school helping him or are they ignoring him and passing him through the system. It is cheaper to ignore him.
Bettie
(16,085 posts)isn't going to help him.
However, I doubt Indiana has any help available for him and his family. Heck, most states don't have any help for anyone anymore.
niyad
(113,228 posts)makes it okay? Are you f'n kidding me?? Child abuse is child abuse, no matter HOW a person turns out. Child abuse teaches children that it is okay for bigger people, people ith power, to beat up on and abuse smaller, less powerful people. And you have "mixed feelings about this". REALLLLLY? Wow. . just. . wow.
I went to catholic schools as well, and if one of the teachers had ever laid a hand on me, that person would have been dealing with my father, who had nothing but contempt and loathing for people who abused children or women.
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)Farmer-Rick
(10,151 posts)By teachers, parents and bullies and I turned out OK.
I grew up in the 70s and beatings and violence was just how you treated people weaker, smaller and smarter then you. Bruises, bloody ears, broken teeth, bloody lips, black eyes, broken bones and welts we're just a side affect of all that oh so wholesome corporal punishment. Yeah, so what if you only remember a childhood of pain....you turned out OK.
Don't you think you turned out OK despite the beatings not because of them?
Didn't it hurt when they beat you? Didn't it also hurt your ego, your sense of selfworth and bodily autonomy? Did it really make you behave better? Did it make you feel like you were important and worthwhile when they hurt you?
Since it obviously did hurt you, why would you want to inflict that hurt on others? Yeah, you survived the pain and suffering but what about the kid you are about to hurt? Are they going to have the same strength to keep it together as adults hurt them?
It was wrong that you were hurt as a child. They were wrong for hurting you. You turned out OK because you overcame the pain and suffering not because of it. Why put that pain and suffering on others now?
NYC Liberal
(20,135 posts)Celerity
(43,267 posts)kcr
(15,315 posts)is not exactly the opposite of a**hole.
obamanut2012
(26,064 posts)Because you were assaulted even worse than this kid and you are fine. Except you grew into an adult thinking it was okay for adults in positions of power to assault minors.
What other crimes against minors are okay? If your father raped you, is it okay to have another child's father rape them because, well, YOU TURNED OUT OKAY and survived.
It's okay to make minors work in dangerous conditions....
Your "logic" is literally this. Educate yourself.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,401 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)My own parents would have absolutely turned this into a proverbial "federal case", had he done this to me as a student.
Farmer-Rick
(10,151 posts)"In 1977, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in its Ingraham v. Wright decision that school corporal punishment is constitutional, leaving states to decide whether to allow it.
Nineteen U.S. states currently allow public school personnel to use corporal punishment to discipline children from the time they start preschool until they graduate 12th grade;
these states are: Alabama, Arkansas, Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Missouri, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, and Wyoming (Center for Effective Discipline, 2015). A total of 163,3331 children were subject to corporal punishment in these states public schools during the 20112012 school year."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5766273/#:~:text=Nineteen%20U.S.%20states%20currently%20allow,%2C%20Louisiana%2C%20Missouri%2C%20Mississippi%2C
Aviation Pro
(12,142 posts)I'm a powerlifter and pretty good at it. It's funny that I never seem to be around when one of these psychopathic infants gets all 'chesty'. Maybe the key is that even though I'm pretty mild-mannered in most situations, I still have an intimidation factor around me. The sad fact of the matter is that these fucking assholes only go after the weak and defenseless.
Oh, if that was one of my children, there wouldn't be a hole deep enough for this motherfucker.
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)This is not a one off. So it is fair to say the child has issues. How about this school provide some help BEFORE it gets to this point. I am not making any excuses for the right wing nut. He is flat out wrong and should be arrested. He wants to end abortion and beat children. Remember he knew he was on camera.
Why won't this country accept the need to support mental health. There are sick people and we need to help them. That school is probably just passing that kid along to get him out of school. But at least the kid will be in the thoughts and prayers of the right wing nuts.
PaulRevere08
(449 posts)They have been brainwashed by their preachers, by their teachers, and now by RW propaganda outlets. They have been so indoctrinated that can't function outside their bubble.
Traildogbob
(8,709 posts)In Texas or Florida. Its against the law to make a child feel uncomfortable. I am raging sick of this shit. Fuck that ass hole and his supporters. Where the fuck is Covid? You have one job, take away these assholes. I have no idea why the father has not already ended his retirement, for good.
rainin
(3,010 posts)twodogsbarking
(9,725 posts)Cuthbert Allgood
(4,915 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Cuthbert Allgood
(4,915 posts)If it didn't, I don't know why some states would have modified their corporal punishment laws to include parental permission first.
obamanut2012
(26,064 posts)UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)Demovictory9
(32,445 posts)A gazillion of them will contact him.upon aeeing.video
Baitball Blogger
(46,698 posts)Cuthbert Allgood
(4,915 posts)There was no camera needed for administration to see the sticks he had up in classroom and to address that.
bluestarone
(16,900 posts)I'm sure he owns lots of things that ARE TOUCHABLE!! If it were my child i'd be going after EVERYTHING i could get.
Happy Hoosier
(7,277 posts)And it's not like Indiana teacher pensions are great. This is a red state. My wife has that pension plan and when she retires, it will not provide a livable income.
Initech
(100,059 posts)Demovictory9
(32,445 posts)South Bend Tribune
Thu, March 3, 2022, 4:35 PM·2 min read
ELKHART The Jimtown High School teacher who was caught on video hitting a student has been arrested, and authorities are recommending a felony charge of battery.
Mike Hosinski, 61, was taken into custody late Thursday afternoon, the Elkhart County Sheriff's Office said in a release.
The release said a recommendation for a felony charge of battery has been sent to the county prosecutor's office.
Bettie
(16,085 posts)this is Indiana, so by the end of the week, they'll probably be throwing a parade in his honor.
I'm betting the kid's family is already getting death threats.
I miss when I believed that most people are actually decent.
Delphinus
(11,830 posts)Strip him of his pension and throw the book at him. How many others did he harm? Looking at the pictures yesterday, I would guess he brainwashed most anyone who was ever in his class.
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,915 posts)Why is that so hard to realize?
Delphinus
(11,830 posts)I didn't read all the way through. Just saw the update. My bad.
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)Apparently this kid is a pain in the ass starts shit on the school bus, etc. But then the video came out and the rest of the kids turned quick.
This guy strikes me as a dark parody of Mr. Hand in Fast Times At Ridgemont High and Richard Vernon in The Breakfast Club.