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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSeveral reports of downed Russian aircraft
including 2 SU34's, being reported in the last 24 hr's. 6 fighter/bombers and 3 helicopters by my count, some of which yet to be confirmed. Could be a good sign that that the weapons being supplied are getting where they need to be.
https://liveuamap.com/
Omnipresent
(5,706 posts)Quality control problems with their military equipment.
Every country has them to an extent, but Russia is notorious for gremlins in the machinery.
dchill
(38,471 posts)Jerry2144
(2,099 posts)But it doesn't matter. Each crashed Russian plane can't bomb.
Are they crashed or are those planes pining for the Fjords of Norway?
hatrack
(59,583 posts)denbot
(9,899 posts)So to save the masters embarrassment, they say those planes simply fell out of the sky.
OneBlueDotS-Carolina
(1,384 posts)The greatest war machine in the sky, mankind has ever created, bet they were downed by The Glorious Russian land forces, Hail to Putin!
The ruskies just brought the SU34's yesterday.
underpants
(182,763 posts)Stand up cockpit too.
Gore1FL
(21,127 posts)Cheezoholic
(2,016 posts)But Russia is definitely throwing a lot of their wartime land an air relics, including the least experienced young conscripts, out front in these offensives as fodder to soak and soften up Ukrainian defensive weapons and personnel. Hell, theyre dragging AN2's from the 40's out of mothballs to fly out of Belarus.
relayerbob
(6,544 posts)Good for special ops, and small resupply.
caraher
(6,278 posts)The Pentagon used to worry that North Korea could use them to sneak attack South Korea (apparently NK has a very large number of them):
The controllers at the base tower were accustomed to jets; they couldnt figure out what we were, Webster says. When they started tracking us, I got a call saying What are you? Are you a helicopter?
It will fly a lot slower than that, says John Webster. Along for a ride in Guatemala in 1997, when Kharitonov demonstrated the airplanes stall behavior for the pilots in the start-up air service, Webster was astonished when Kharitonov flew at such a slow speedaround 35 mphthat the airspeed indicator stopped working. He was demonstrating a landing in what Webster calls the parachute mode, which entails stalling the aircraft down low and having it drop onto the field. You might bend the airplane, says Webster, but youd walk away. The Antonovs operators handbook doesnt bother to list a stall speed. Pilots could control it at such slow speeds that Soviet paratroopers would practice low-level jumps into snowdrifts without parachutes.
mitch96
(13,890 posts)for a fighter bomber. You can lay down in it and stand up in the back...Big boy...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-34
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NickB79
(19,233 posts)mitch96
(13,890 posts)relayerbob
(6,544 posts)su-34 Carries 18000 pounds of bombs, B-1 in excess of 80,000.
the galley and toilet is to give it extra range for maritime strikes.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,582 posts)The wine cellar is in the wings.
mitch96
(13,890 posts)There wont be any terrified cooks to bully around..
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Chainfire
(17,528 posts)It feels good to see Russian planes going down in a fireball, and it deserves a little cheering, but it is not significant in the grand scheme of things. It becomes important only when the ratio of missions to losses become untenable. I hope that the Ukrainians can get there.
OnDoutside
(19,953 posts)unattributed website showing Russian positions including artillery positions, troop build-up and fuel depots etc under the guise of public information but in fact would be in the field help for the UA and anyone else who wanted to have a go.
Gore1FL
(21,127 posts)OnDoutside
(19,953 posts)If their positions were being constantly published, so local militias had the coordinates of the nearest enemy.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Are making it to the front.
mitch96
(13,890 posts)OneBlueDotS-Carolina
(1,384 posts)screeched along on a low level strafing run, was taken out by a Molotov cocktail tossed into the jet inlet by a Ukrainian grandmother.
Cheezoholic
(2,016 posts)AntiFascist
(12,792 posts)WarGamer
(12,430 posts)The downed jet in the pic was an SU-25
Sogo
(4,986 posts)Thanks!
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,126 posts)OnlinePoker
(5,719 posts)The poster gives a good analysis of what shot it down.
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)Stingers are one of the reason russia left Afghanistain.
A single man on the ground can take out your jet. But you can't see him!