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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums'We told you so!' How the West didn't listen to the countries that know Russia best
VILNIUS For years, Western Europeans have been dismissive of politicians from Poland and the Baltic countries whenever they sounded the alarm over the expansionist threat posed by Russian President Vladimir Putin.
They now realize they should have listened to countries with a far deeper knowledge of the Kremlin and a bitter historical memory of the violence that Moscow is willing to unleash to pursue its goals.
Instead, the Westerners followed a path of commercial and political appeasement of Putin, led by former German Chancellor Angela Merkel, which has now spectacularly backfired with the invasion of Ukraine, the bombardment of its cities and mass emigration. "The Western Europeans pooh-poohed and patronized us for these last 30 years, said Radosław Sikorski, a former Polish foreign minister. For years [they] were patronizing us about our attitude: Oh, you know, you over-nervous, over-sensitive Central Europeans are prejudiced against Russia.'
The Easterners say they ran into a brick wall when they made pleas for increased NATO deployments, drew attention to cyberattacks and called on Berlin not to let the EU be held hostage by giant pipelines pumping gas straight into Germany. The outspoken, pugnacious Sikorski, then defense minister, triggered outrage in thin-skinned diplomatic circles in 2006 when he dared compare the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream gas pipeline project, which bypassed Poland, to the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact of 1939 that divided Poland between the Nazis and Soviets.
https://www.politico.eu/article/western-europe-listen-to-the-baltic-countries-that-know-russia-best-ukraine-poland/
Chainfire
(17,471 posts)The same goes for nations. When a conflict between defense and money arise in a country controlled by big money, the money will always win out. Corporations have no morals and they don't give a rat's ass where their money comes from.
http://www.aalep.eu/american-companies-operating-russia
uponit7771
(90,302 posts)moondust
(19,959 posts)I've heard one theory that Merkel, etc., figured Russia would behave itself if their new economy was tied to selling products (oil) to western Europe. They wouldn't want to lose a big customer, right? Europe would have some leverage.
One could argue that 30 years ago western Europe felt it needed to help "normalize" Russia by aiding in its transition from a state-owned economy to a market economy. Who knows, they might even become allies and qualify for EU membership someday.
One might fear that letting the nuclear-armed Russia go it alone after the collapse of the USSR could lead to broad instability that could prove to be even riskier than creating some mutually beneficial ties to its neighbors.
Realpolitik.
JoanofArgh
(14,971 posts)But , now, I believe authoritarian tyrants can't ever be normalized. They're sociopaths. Putin's not really interested in doing what's best for his people.
Not to forget, though, that Putin wasn't always Russia's "tyrant." Dmitry Medvedev was President of Russia from 2008 to 2012 and has held other top posts before and since then. I don't recall him being considered tyrannical and his presence in office gave at least the appearance of a somewhat functioning democracy even though he was likely just another Putin puppet.
It seems Putin lost any remaining inhibitions in 2020 when--after his tyrannical moves in Georgia and Crimea--the Russian Constitution was amended to allow both him and Medvedev to serve two more full terms regardless of how long they had previously served.
ffr
(22,665 posts)We read about treaties of non-aggression, but the plan to divide up eastern Europe wasn't part of the discussion.
Wow. Thanks JoanofArgh and DU for the history lesson.