It is ironic the outrage being expressed about the behavior of the soldiers pissing on the

[still_one]

corpse, but very few seem to be outraged by the act of war itself, or the million killed in Iraq and Afghanistan

We should not have even gone into Iraq, which had NOTHING to do with 9/11, and as far as Afghanistan is concerned, it was NOT the bombing that country that led to the end of bin laden

Hypocrisy is a strange animal, and having rules on the best way to kill another fellow human engaged in warfare is the biggest hypocrisy of all

[phantom power]

1. For those who labor under the assumption that this war was justified, or honorable...

Then to see this kind of dishonorable behavior is disturbing. It subverts our notions of American Exceptionalism, although they badly need subverting these days.

[EFerrari]

2. No, it's the same posters that also object to the war, to rendition and to torture,

to drones and to American JSOC death squads.

Maybe you need to spend some time in the DU archives.

[Zalatix]

20. Indeed, count me as one of those.

[JCMach1]

3. Exactly, the Fauxrage is galling...

War IS nasty and disgusting full-stop. It's just that this time someone brought along a phonecam... The MSM is shocked! Shocked!

[EFerrari]

6. I haven't watched Faux since they went after Clinton and Monica.

And, btw, the best way to stop this shit is for people to see how nasty and disgusting it is,something the corporate media tries to avoid at all times and why John Pilger is all but officially censored in this country.

[JCMach1]

17. +1

[liberalmuse]

4. I've been a member of DU for 10 years, and...

I've seen TONS of outrage from this war here on DU, since the very beginning. Images are powerful, and I think it's safe to say that perhaps this just confirms to many here how senseless the Bush wars have been and brings up the anger all over again.

[roguevalley]

5. agreed, liberalmuse. This is especially bad since it

shamed the dead and their culture is shame based in their offense. I could not accept anyone back in my house who could think this was a good idea. Isn't dead enough?

[redqueen]

7. Hypocrisy?

War is socially acceptable. Whatever people here think about how unnecessary it is or how primitive or how motivated by profits, it is a socially acceptable concept.

Urinating on dead bodies is not so acceptable, but such forms of violent revenge and humiliation/disrespect are not so abhorrent in the minds of many people as you might like to think. Many people on this very site mention the horrible things they'd do to various people who do horrible things. That doesn't mean I think they'd actually do it, but the concept is there, and it does not seem to sicken them that they think these things.

[still_one]

12. It seems to defy logic. War is an obscenity. /nt

[Uncle Joe]

8. These type of acts add fuel to the war, I don't believe people outraged by the former

approve of the latter.

Thanks for the thread, still_one.

[still_one]

13. Agreed, it is all the same category of inhuman behavior, or worse, maybe it is a natural trait of

The human condition

[sabrina 1]

9. I think anyone who opposed all these wars from the beginning

are not hypocrites for using every horrific image they can to force those who are either oblivious, supportive, or silent about the horrors we have inflicted on so many millions of people. The reason this is getting attention is because we do not see the images of war, our media is censored, always painting the most horrific, violent, criminal enterprises as 'noble'. Remember Cindy Sheehan's question to Bush 'what was the noble cause my son died for'?

This image got out beyond the censorship and for a lot of people it IS genuinely shocking if they have not been paying attention, or live in some fantasy Fox world where killing people is some noble mission. Hopefully it causes a few of them to begin the thinking processes.

What happened to the anti-War movement anyhow?

[still_one]

14. Good observation. You are right, we are isolated from these wars. When Mai lai occurred, there

Was a large minority in this country we defended calley(sic), and his slaughter of civilians including babies. In fact those who finally stopped that slaughter were actually threatened

Human behavior can be quite disturbing

[get the red out]

10. You nailed the media with that

War itself is the greatest possible wrong. All the bad things that go along with war are side items to the main course.

[undeterred]

11. Being a woman, I can't really imagine expressing my outrage by pissing on something.

What am I missing? Does it feel really good to pee on stuff?


Edit: I expressed my outrage over the war by protesting in Madison and going to Washington to protest, beginning in 2003. Voted for Obama over Clinton because I thought he was more likely to end the occupation sooner. Not true.

[still_one]

15. The truth is most likely Clinton would have followed a similar course as Obama, so it probably would

Not have mattered. However, it must be recognized that essentially the troops are out of Iraq, which I doubt would have happened if the republicans had won. Especially, looking at this wonderful selection of republicans, their whole platform is war

At least there is a chance with the Democrats

[undeterred]

16. Yeah, we were still placing our hopes in that old speech of his.

If she were president and he were her SOS it would have been exactly the same.

[still_one]

19. I do think she would have fought harder for the social issues than Obama did in his first 3 years

[Quantess]

18. Which is worse, being insulted or getting killed?

There seems to be some debate.