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Kansas GOP House Speaker Prays That Obamas Children Be Fatherless And His Wife A Widow
By Marie Diamond on Jan 13, 2012 at 12:00 pm
ThinkProgress reported last week that Kansas House Speaker Mike ONeal (R) was forced to apologize to First Lady Michelle Obama after forwarding an email to fellow lawmakers that called her Mrs. YoMama and compared her to the Grinch.
Earlier that same week, the Lawrence Journal-World was sent another email that ONeal had forwarded to House Republicans that referred to President Obama and a Bible verse that says Let his days be few and calls for his children to be without a father and his wife to be widowed.
Nick Sementelli at Faith in Public Life notes that Psalm 109, which is a prayer for the death of a leader, became a popular conservative meme after Obamas election. The tongue-in-cheek prayer for the president was seen on bumper stickers. The relevant part of the psalm reads:
Let his days be few; and let another take his office
May his children be fatherless and his wife a widow.
May his children be wandering beggars; may they be driven from their ruined homes.
May a creditor seize all he has; may strangers plunder the fruits of his labor.
May no one extend kindness to him or take pity on his fatherless children.
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/01/13/403911/kansas-gop-house-speaker-prays-that-obamas-children-be-fatherless-and-his-wife-a-widow/
rfranklin
(13,200 posts)He should be visited by the Secret Service.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)might stop.
rfranklin
(13,200 posts)so if the shoe fits, wear it.
SaintPete
(533 posts)are among the least savage of all my acquaintances.
rfranklin
(13,200 posts)it was the other pagans, the blah people.
calimary
(81,198 posts)LtCannonFodder
(10 posts)All the GOP's are special , don't you know ?
They can say and do ANYTHING an get away with it ! Look at lower Manhatten , look at Dallas TX , gawd has come into their special 'do as I say' (not as I do) lifes !
now if I said that gawd should snuff all false accusers from the face of the earth , peoples would think I was crazy for wanting to purge our society these vulture economics bring 'gawd' into it !
Leave the Gawd stuff outa reality !
It's just your imagination running away wit you ...
( Now that you're behind closed doors , you can stuff that Gawd crap where the 'Son' don't shine ! )
Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)greiner3
(5,214 posts)Daaaamnnn. Even the witch in Sleeping Beauty was not this pissed off.
ut oh
(893 posts)prayer/threat, so of course it's OK...
now where's that sarcasm tag??
louis-t
(23,288 posts)Such good moral, Christians, they are.
villager
(26,001 posts)The sooner we treat it as such, as a society, the better.
RKP5637
(67,102 posts)much anymore that the republicans talk about than what I would consider to be a pathological state of mind.
louis-t
(23,288 posts)mwb970
(11,358 posts)When you hear the things republicans say and believe, how can you possibly avoid noticing that they're crazy as a box of Froot Loops and dead set against every single thing that makes America great?
Clearly, republicans hate America as it now exists, with our religious tolerance, regulation of predatory businesses, etc. If they hate it so much, why don't they just leave? Somalia has no government at all, that should be right-wing heaven!
When we were protesting the idiotic Vietnam war, we often heard "Love it or leave it!" from the bloodthirsty lunatics on the right. Shouldn't this apply to today's America-hating conservatives just as well?
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Good Christians always[i/] pray to Jeebus to smite their enemies.
Didn't you ever read The Sermon On The Mount? Jeebus says right there that He'll kill anyone that pisses Him off.
Or something like that.
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)Sadly, he is quoted as saying something just like that elsewhere:
"Bring my enemies before me and slay them." (Luke 19:27)
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Matthew 10:34
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Luke 12:51
Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Luke 22:36
He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
He could have just came out and said, "Bring me the heads of my enemies." and be done with it.
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)Where he actually said some good things.
(Assuming he said them)
(Assuming he existed at all)
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Hard to tell from pixels on a page.
I guess the point I was trying to make was that one could use almost any part of the Bible to justify just about anything.
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)And how!
tclambert
(11,085 posts)DLine
(397 posts)Or rather I don't think he was talking about himself
The Parable of Ten Minas...
11 While they were listening to this, he went on to tell them a parable, because he was near Jerusalem and the people thought that the kingdom of God was going to appear at once. 12 He said: A man of noble birth went to a distant country to have himself appointed king and then to return. 13 So he called ten of his servants and gave them ten minas.[a] Put this money to work, he said, until I come back.
14 But his subjects hated him and sent a delegation after him to say, We dont want this man to be our king.
15 He was made king, however, and returned home. Then he sent for the servants to whom he had given the money, in order to find out what they had gained with it.
16 The first one came and said, Sir, your mina has earned ten more.
17 Well done, my good servant! his master replied. Because you have been trustworthy in a very small matter, take charge of ten cities.
18 The second came and said, Sir, your mina has earned five more.
19 His master answered, You take charge of five cities.
20 Then another servant came and said, Sir, here is your mina; I have kept it laid away in a piece of cloth. 21 I was afraid of you, because you are a hard man. You take out what you did not put in and reap what you did not sow.
22 His master replied, I will judge you by your own words, you wicked servant! You knew, did you, that I am a hard man, taking out what I did not put in, and reaping what I did not sow? 23 Why then didnt you put my money on deposit, so that when I came back, I could have collected it with interest?
24 Then he said to those standing by, Take his mina away from him and give it to the one who has ten minas.
25 Sir, they said, he already has ten!
26 He replied, I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given, but as for the one who has nothing, even what they have will be taken away. 27 But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over thembring them here and kill them in front of me.
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)I'm pretty sure he also made hell a lot worse than it was previously conceived (if it was at all) with his "salted with fire" comment.
NashvilleLefty
(811 posts)What about the one who invested his mina but lost it because the market crashed?
tclambert
(11,085 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Take from the poor and give to the rich.
Republican. Always.
It is one of Jesus' parables.
The "Master" is supposed to represent God.
So God (who in Christian theology is also Jesus) is saying: 26 He replied, I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given, but as for the one who has nothing, even what they have will be taken away. 27 But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over thembring them here and kill them in front of me.
This is a direct incitement to kill those who do not accept God as their Master.
noel711
(2,185 posts)That's the final line of a parable about a wicked king,
NOT Jesus demand to his disciples.
If you're gonna quote the Bible,
do it a better way,
NOT the way the fundies do: totally out of context.
Otherwise we're no better than they are.
SaintPete
(533 posts)you're quoting Jesus telling a parable, and pretending it shows Jesus' bloodthirsty nature.
That's just as bad as Christians who hunt for the out of context quote that supports their prejudice.
Shame...
LtCannonFodder
(10 posts)A hussle !
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proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)LtCannonFodder
(10 posts)Stuck with a crazy speaker like that , wonder what his boyfriend thinks about that !!
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LtCannonFodder
(10 posts)& state .
The poor mindless soul hasn't a clue about the real world , wonder if he believes in Santa Cluss too ?!?
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Sadly, that crud attracts votes.
LtCannonFodder
(10 posts)people's that vote
Against their own interests again , and again , and again and still they can't see
The vulture econmics destroying their way
Of lives while tricksters like the 'speaker' laughs all the way to bank !
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)LtCannonFodder
(10 posts)A-hole ! We need our out going fixture to live , we don't need a fantical bible thumping misquoting hatefilled better then all of us that bend words to make their GoP losers feel good about the way
They are distroying Amerca an think gawd is on their side , BS !
Pity the poor billionaires !
leveymg
(36,418 posts)pschoeb
(1,066 posts)So the silly people who use it against Obama are actually asking god to punish them for judging Obama's soul.
intaglio
(8,170 posts)Here's my analysis of Psalm 109
1: a simple request for God to take vengeance.
2: Naming those who the prayer is aimed at "deceitful are opened against me: they have spoken against me with a lying tongue."
3 - 5: self justification.
6 - 19: saying how God should punish the accused.
20: identifying the targets of this curse as first, "Let this be the reward of mine adversaries from the LORD," and second those who, "speak evil against my soul."
21 - 26: excuses why the one praying cannot act.
27 - 29: more things that should happen to the accursed.
30: what God gets in return
31: A sample of the reward God gets.
You will find the whole thing, minus my analysis at Skeptics Annotated Bible
lunatica
(53,410 posts)She went into great detail about what I will experience in Hell. I'm sure she would never consider praying for me to NOT experience the most vile and evil punishment known in creation.
badgerpup
(4,837 posts)...so to speak.
That way they not only get to regard the Face of God, but they get to enjoy the wailing of the damned and watch the torturing of people they dislike/disapprove.
The One is just lacking that certain je ne sais quoi without the other, apparently.
I'll cop to enjoying a dram of schadenfreude now and then, but that's just...waaaaaay to vindictive for me.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)[font size="10"]IOKIYAR!![/font]
GOD I'm sick of this crap.
DeathToTheOil
(1,124 posts)Well, mick to mick, Mike, I hope you're half an hour in Hell before your twisted interpretation of Jesus has a chance to "save" you!
da_decider
(104 posts)What do you get when you combine hate, ignorance, racism and religious fanaticism? A teabagger.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)What kind of person would think , much less state something like this? A sick ignorant fool.
I despised the Bush Jr presidency ... I never would have a thought like this ... I wouldn't have minded seeing him in leg irons for his crimes against humanity ...
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)and for those that say "its just words"
Ask Dr. Tiller if they are just words...oh thats right, no one can because someone took actions on words
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)... just the fools (or the inherently evil) that vote for him.
Arkana
(24,347 posts)and cannot comment on any open investigations.
That should be the White House line.
tsuki
(11,994 posts)Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)FarLeftFist
(6,161 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)indivisibleman
(482 posts)The prayer quoted is the prayer prayed by King David's enemies against him. So to endorse this prayer is to put President Obama in the place of David and themselves in the place of the enemies of David.
G_j
(40,366 posts)a point no doubt lost on the haters.
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)...or maybe cut off a couple of hundred foreskins?
1 Samuel 18:
18:27 Wherefore David arose and went, he and his men, and slew of the Philistines two hundred men; and David brought their foreskins, and they gave them in full tale to the king, that he might be the king's son in law. And Saul gave him Michal his daughter to wife.
Keep this in mind for Valentine's Day. Nothing says "marry me" then 200 foreskins
indivisibleman
(482 posts)Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)Are some flowers, candy and a card. Where, I ask you, is the romance in that?
louslobbs
(3,232 posts)for President Obama. KHS Mike O'Neal (Republican of course) is an ugly, nasty, hateful and bigoted glop of oozing Santorum.
Lou
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,884 posts)Not
Ecumenist
(6,086 posts)That is horrible..
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)or should I say Babble?
Ugh....this is why I hate christofascism....and I don't have a lot of respect for the bible, either. Nice historical interest and literature, and it's great for sentimentality and ritual, but all in all, it's a book of hexes and fear, hierarchy, patriarchy and outdated tradition. FEH! [url=http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/skype-emoticons.html][img][/img][/url]
MACARD
(105 posts)over who gets first crack at killing the first black president. and once they are done you are still third in line.
seriously there are GOP who want him dead just for him being black and having a position that is not slave, and it gets under their skin that he holds a higher rank than they do.
While we called GWB Jr.a large number of names i don't recall ever wishing is early demize, it would serve him right, but still not to wish it.
rejoice fellow democrats for there is a special place in hell for Bigots such as him, and those who twist Gods word in this manner, and pretend to be fullfilling the will of god.
I leave god out of my politics, the Separation of Church and State is something that we need to reaffirm.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)I find that the hope that some person will be held accountable for their evilness after death allows these people to spread their vileness without proper retribution in this life. Indeed, religion is the opiate of the masses of the poor and depressed who are allowing themselves to be exploited while suffering in silence. They can only achieve justice when they rise up and overthrow their oppressors and not place their faith in some after life retribution. The oppressed only allow their evil tormentors the opportunity to laugh at their stupidity.
muntrv
(14,505 posts)What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)@SpeakerONeal
DinahMoeHum
(21,783 posts)n/t
a2liberal
(1,524 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)military funerals?
Has he been drinking fracked water?
You know, what goes around, comes around.
That's just dispicable.
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99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)This is too vile for words.
I feel like I need to take a shower now.
osteenq
(33 posts)Typical commentary from what's become the go-to party for sociopaths.
Botany
(70,484 posts)SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)I understand the right to free speech, but threatening someone's life? Wishing ill on others? Come on. The right is losing it big time. They can't deal with the current class clowns, and know they can't beat Obama in November. However, this is a new low for them. I think the Secret service should interrogate this idiot for a couple of weeks in detention. Maybe, maybe he'll think twice before opening his mouth and spewing such ignorance again. The far right are such idiots. They amaze me (in a bad way) every day!!!
baldguy
(36,649 posts)Matthew 5:44 - "But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you."
lunatica
(53,410 posts)These teabaggers are sick perversions of humanity.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)is the loss of his job.
EC
(12,287 posts)yeah, right...we get it. Ha, Ha very funny...
I hope they noticed that their prayers don't work...must be praying to a false god or aren't "godly" enough. Whatever, he's still alive and kicking their butts.
beac
(9,992 posts)radhika
(1,008 posts)Just creating a tax shelter for their divisive rants only encourages them. Not to mention giving them citizen-subsidized coffers from which to purchase politicians and skew public discourse.
spanone
(135,816 posts)2Design
(9,099 posts)Many followers of the group - when I challenged others on signging with the group they made it seem harmless and voicing their opinion
unfriended and was unfriended over this
This was spreading over four years ago or right after election
JohnWxy
(6,506 posts)Bill USA
(6,436 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)"May his children be fatherless and his wife a widow." That's just disgusting. I'm the farthest thing from being an Obama fan, but this so called prayer is beyond contempt. That a House Speaker should behave thus is repugnant. He should be asked to resign his post.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)I agree with Beacool 100%
I also think that sadly, very sadly, they would be doing this same (censored) to Hillary if she got in. That is not a slam on Hillary, au contraire, it means that she and Obama would both tick off the worst elements of this country, which is why they are both better than ANY GOP.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)As for Hillary, they already did it to her when she was first lady.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)You know that this fool has just ensured he gets votes and money for life. I have seem people already seel T-shirts and teddy bears with this psalm on it.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)Who buys this junk?
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)Sad to say, that will sell.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)Sites already seeling t shirts:
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2009/11/19/disgusting-pray-for-obama-t-shirt-psalm-1098-%E2%80%9Clet-his-days-be-few%E2%80%9D-an-anti-obama-bumper-sticker-slogan-this-absolutely-repugnant/
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2009/11/19/disgusting-pray-for-obama-t-shirt-psalm-1098-%E2%80%9Clet-his-days-be-few%E2%80%9D-an-anti-obama-bumper-sticker-slogan-this-absolutely-repugnant/
the Weird Liberal
(124 posts)another Republican shows how he REALLY feels about President Obama and his family.
Suresh
(2 posts)Death threats are illegal, even on the floor of Congress.
Rex
(65,616 posts)That is beyond disgusting, what an embaressment Mike is to the human race. He does us all an injustice by cryptically saying he wants his own leader to die.
Well you know what I got to say to that BULLSHIT!?!? Hey MIKE LOOK AT THIS;
See this guy...he got us out of Iraq, fuck you Mike.
La Lioness Priyanka
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young_at_heart
(3,767 posts)Can you imagine if something like this had been written during the last presidency what the reaction on Fox News and other outlets would be? It is simply unbelievable!!