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Jilly_in_VA

(9,941 posts)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 03:12 PM Mar 2022

'He's clearly angry': Experts who study Putin are alarmed by his emotional, ranting speech

Anyone looking for signs that embattled and isolated Russia might soften its position would not have found much hope in the increasingly belligerent words of President Vladimir Putin.

With his invasion of Ukraine floundering and his economy teetering, Putin doubled down Wednesday — turning his baleful glare on Russians who are against the invasion or who sympathize with the West.

"The Russian people will always be able to distinguish true patriots from scum and traitors, and will simply spit them out like an insect in their mouth onto the pavement," he said, shoulders hunched and staring down the barrel of the camera.

It was the latest speech that has surprised and alarmed many who study Putin. He has adopted what they say is an emotional, ranting tone since he invaded Ukraine three weeks ago, a departure from the calculating persona of this former KGB officer.

"He's clearly angry, emotional and feels the need to speak in this very aggressive tone," said John Lough, an associate fellow at London’s Chatham House think tank.

Lough thinks the speech was clearly aimed at Russia's elites, some of whom he believes are privately dismayed about the failure of the war and the economic backlash it has inflicted at home.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/scum-traitors-pressure-ukraine-putin-turns-ire-russians-rcna20410
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He sounds like someone else we know

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'He's clearly angry': Experts who study Putin are alarmed by his emotional, ranting speech (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Mar 2022 OP
Tfg's time twin. They'd make great cellmates. SheltieLover Mar 2022 #1
Yep, BFF!!! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2022 #3
It would be like the 50th circle of Hades for them both! SheltieLover Mar 2022 #7
Absolutely! RKP5637 Mar 2022 #22
He appears to me as being very depressed and doc03 Mar 2022 #2
So when does Steiner launch his counter attack? Ray Bruns Mar 2022 #4
Sociopaths of a feather... Thomas Hurt Mar 2022 #5
A little man puffing out his chest for a couple decades. His military shows how weak he is. LizBeth Mar 2022 #6
P&T are two of a kind. 2naSalit Mar 2022 #8
That Putin is the reason the world has met Phoenix61 Mar 2022 #20
Maybe this is the real Putin coming out. Not the fake cool persona. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #9
Yep! And scared. Scared of being found out. Phoenix61 Mar 2022 #17
Scared of being assassinated. n/t EndlessWire Mar 2022 #18
+1000 smirkymonkey Mar 2022 #30
If Russia Didn't Have Nukes... ProfessorGAC Mar 2022 #10
If they didn't have nukes he'd be toast. redwitch Mar 2022 #16
We updated our nuclear triggers EndlessWire Mar 2022 #19
A Fair Question, Indeed ProfessorGAC Mar 2022 #29
Putain Jilly_in_VA Mar 2022 #11
Putin has a desire sanatanadharma Mar 2022 #12
The Ukrainians have shown him what it truly means to be a Slav Donkees Mar 2022 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #14
"The Russian people will always be able to distinguish true patriots from scum and traitors" Emrys Mar 2022 #15
If true, then... AmBlue Mar 2022 #28
That's a mob boss speaking ffr Mar 2022 #21
I guess he feels like we're all ganging up on him. lindysalsagal Mar 2022 #23
Putin trippin ouija Mar 2022 #24
Is he scared? Could be. Certainly has reason. paleotn Mar 2022 #25
Suicide by NATO ouija Mar 2022 #26
The more Putin lashes out and blames people around him for his poor decision, the Lonestarblue Mar 2022 #27
FINALLY they use the word EMOTIONAL instead of AGGRESSIVE Skittles Mar 2022 #31
Yes! redwitch Mar 2022 #32
HYSTERICAL AND SHRILL Skittles Mar 2022 #33
'Roid rage Jilly_in_VA Mar 2022 #34

doc03

(35,296 posts)
2. He appears to me as being very depressed and
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 03:16 PM
Mar 2022

knows he is losing. He is desperate blames everyone but himself, so he is just lashing out at everyone. Very Trump like.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
6. A little man puffing out his chest for a couple decades. His military shows how weak he is.
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 03:25 PM
Mar 2022

All about macho and now clearly it was all hat.

2naSalit

(86,332 posts)
8. P&T are two of a kind.
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 03:28 PM
Mar 2022

I would speculate that not only is the war not going well for him and his ginormous ego, he was upstaged by Zelenskyy who got standing ovations from the governments of the world. And he out-machoed him in this fight, way too much for the supreme snowflake of snowflakes.

I am sure the reception Zelenskyy enjoys is a major weenie whack for him. He doesn't get so much feed back and drubbing, like our supreme fascist, he is like dry ice in a bucket of water level seething with anger and jealousy which makes him real dangerous.

If we're lucky, he's already sped things up to where he kills himself in a bunker.

Phoenix61

(16,993 posts)
20. That Putin is the reason the world has met
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 04:44 PM
Mar 2022

Zelensky is the real kicker. If he’d kept his ass out of Ukraine like he should have we’d have never known what a mess Russia’s military is or what a kickass people the Ukrainians are.

Irish_Dem

(46,529 posts)
9. Maybe this is the real Putin coming out. Not the fake cool persona.
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 03:28 PM
Mar 2022

I think he has always been this angry and full of hatred. He has wanted to destroy the West for a long time.

Phoenix61

(16,993 posts)
17. Yep! And scared. Scared of being found out.
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 04:39 PM
Mar 2022

That people will see him for what he is, a pathetic, little, POS excuse for a human being.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
30. +1000
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 07:11 PM
Mar 2022

Just like his good buddy TFG. They really are two of a kind. No wonder they got along so well.

ProfessorGAC

(64,857 posts)
10. If Russia Didn't Have Nukes...
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 03:28 PM
Mar 2022

...he'd be nothing on the world stage.
Just an autocrat running a country with a perpetually underperforming economy.

redwitch

(14,941 posts)
16. If they didn't have nukes he'd be toast.
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 04:39 PM
Mar 2022

I wonder if Russian nuke capability is in the same sorry state as the military? I hope we don’t get to find out the hard way.

ProfessorGAC

(64,857 posts)
29. A Fair Question, Indeed
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 07:06 PM
Mar 2022

Plutonium 238, the isotope easily able to go critical, has a half-life of 87 years.
Of course, Russian physicists know this so warheads 20 or more years old would reduce in concentration by at least 14%. That much loss would make the device incapable of detonation. No atomic detonation, no thermonuclear reaction.
But, they could replace and re-enrich every 10 years or so. Who knows?
If the weapons are U-235 based, they'd be good for a LONG time, since that half life is >700 million years. There would be more chemical entropy of the high explosive than decay of the isotope.
Finally, given the propaganda & obfuscation of the old USSR, we don't know the effectiveness rate of their nukes, even when new. Are they, like US weapons, 99.999% likely to function, or are they 50:50?
Again, who knows?

Jilly_in_VA

(9,941 posts)
11. Putain
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 03:30 PM
Mar 2022

is clearly losing it. Not only the war, but, it seems, his mind. He really sounds like the Slobfather. Steroid withdrawal, or steroid psychosis...I've seen both in my career. That's a possibility.

sanatanadharma

(3,689 posts)
12. Putin has a desire
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 03:43 PM
Mar 2022

Putin wants to be the one whom history records restored the Russian empire.
He wants this as perhaps his most important bucket list bullet-point.
If some are right, he is running out of time before kicking the bucket.

Desires impel actions and actions bring results, wanted and unwanted.
Desires also cloud clear consideration of cause and effect.
Desires thwarted birth anger and enough anger will turn into delusion.

Putin has a desire and chose to take action toward that end, but results are less than desired; and may end-up opposite.
Putin "chose poorly".
Putin will be repudiated.

Response to Jilly_in_VA (Original post)

Emrys

(7,222 posts)
15. "The Russian people will always be able to distinguish true patriots from scum and traitors"
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 04:25 PM
Mar 2022

says the asshole who's become a mafia multi-billionaire by letting his cabal of oligarchs cream off Russian national assets as long as they give him his cut.

AmBlue

(3,104 posts)
28. If true, then...
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 06:47 PM
Mar 2022

... the Russian people will recognize PUTIN for the scum he is and will push him out a window or Novichok his hateful little a$$. The world needs to be RID of him!!

ffr

(22,665 posts)
21. That's a mob boss speaking
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 04:48 PM
Mar 2022

Not the leader of a country.

Holy fucking shit. It's everything we thought it was, laid bare.

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
27. The more Putin lashes out and blames people around him for his poor decision, the
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 05:36 PM
Mar 2022

more resentment he creates among others who may decide that he’s crazy and needs to go. It might be a sniper, a waiter to poison him, or maybe even hauling him away to an unknown site. I’m sure the Russian military has its own black ops sites. And God only knows what kind of nasty stuff the FSB has.

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