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Feds protected russia and defied (Original Post) I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2022 OP
The funds are frozen... Demsrule86 Mar 2022 #1
Either way they are undermining the sanctions I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2022 #2
They saved who ever is getting the payments ass. Phoenix61 Mar 2022 #10
There is a 30 day grace period which is how it works...so delete this OP as it is misleading and it Demsrule86 Mar 2022 #12
No, no....isn't the idea of sanctions to cause discomfort? This is weasley. Karadeniz Mar 2022 #3
Please see my reply in a thread about this yesterday: highplainsdem Mar 2022 #4
I clicked your link and got lots of ads I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2022 #7
The tweet I linked to, like the second paragraph of the article, highplainsdem Mar 2022 #14
This again? revmclaren Mar 2022 #5
Do you imagine that a decision this significant was made without Yellin's approval? brooklynite Mar 2022 #6
I dont know I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2022 #8
There's a 30 day grace period then the default occurs. mobeau69 Mar 2022 #9
Ok. I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2022 #11
It's just the way it is. They're still fucked. mobeau69 Mar 2022 #13
Good I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2022 #16
That doesn't make sense. Demsrule86 Mar 2022 #15
They had some dollars, at least 117 million, they sent to the bank. mobeau69 Mar 2022 #20
How do you account for one line in the article? Igel Mar 2022 #18
The payment will bounce. Demsrule86 Mar 2022 #19
A Default Could lead to a world wide monetary collapse. Jacson6 Mar 2022 #17
The Magnitzky Act (oligarch sanctions) passed in 2012 under Obama FakeNoose Mar 2022 #21
Thanks I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2022 #22

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,463 posts)
2. Either way they are undermining the sanctions
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 07:56 PM
Mar 2022

They should have been allowed to default. That is one result sanctions have and they saved russias ass.

Phoenix61

(17,002 posts)
10. They saved who ever is getting the payments ass.
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 08:08 PM
Mar 2022

I have no problem with some foreign debts getting paid. Heck, pay them in full and empty the account. The only pain Russia would feel from defaulting is the loss of future investments which won’t happen with the sanctions in places. When/if they are lifted I’m not sure who would want to invest in Russia with Putin in charge. Their economy is toast for decades.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
12. There is a 30 day grace period which is how it works...so delete this OP as it is misleading and it
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 08:12 PM
Mar 2022

was paid with frozen assets thus the clock is ticking...

highplainsdem

(48,968 posts)
14. The tweet I linked to, like the second paragraph of the article,
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 08:13 PM
Mar 2022

explains that this drains more of Russia's scarce foreign exchange reserves.

mobeau69

(11,141 posts)
9. There's a 30 day grace period then the default occurs.
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 08:08 PM
Mar 2022

Nothing to get freaked out about. Default is just a matter of time. April 15th I believe.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,463 posts)
11. Ok.
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 08:09 PM
Mar 2022

But if that money is unfrozen at any time during this war.. still frozen can be worked around,hello..china?

Either way this bothers me.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,463 posts)
16. Good
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 08:14 PM
Mar 2022

If the brutal war against Ukraine is still going on by april 15th..

Dont let them pay thier debts period.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
18. How do you account for one line in the article?
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 08:29 PM
Mar 2022

"A spokesman for the Treasury said the United States would allow the payments to go through."

If the account's frozen, then the payment very much would *not* to through.

Who makes sure the account's frozen?

The Treasury.

No default is my guess.

Jacson6

(350 posts)
17. A Default Could lead to a world wide monetary collapse.
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 08:22 PM
Mar 2022

All of the nations of the world are tied together by bonds and international banking.

FakeNoose

(32,633 posts)
21. The Magnitzky Act (oligarch sanctions) passed in 2012 under Obama
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 08:52 PM
Mar 2022

As soon as Chump came into office, he removed those sanctions or at least some of them. Am I right? If the Magnitzky sanctions had stayed in effect all this time, I don't think the Federal Reserve would have been involved.

It was Chump coming in and removing the sanctions that set this in motion. I'm not an expert and I could be wrong. If I am, somebody please let me know and I'll delete this.

I learned about the US involvement with the Magnitzky Act from Bill Browder's book "Red Menace." Highly recommended if you want to learn how Russia turned to the dark side in the early/mid-90's.







I_UndergroundPanther

(12,463 posts)
22. Thanks
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 08:57 PM
Mar 2022

Figures this bullshit has trumps greasy kfc encrusted with hamberder juice drpping off them slimy diaper scented fingerprints on this.

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