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fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 11:18 AM Mar 2022

No one is above the law, unless it's too big, too scary, to prosecute.

That is what is happening in America today. Massive wide spread corruption that DA's are afraid to prosecute. I believe that's what happened in the New York criminal case. Nothing else makes sense.

A 3 year tax payer funded investigation that was ended by a DA who was on the job for 6 weeks. What are grand juries for again? Aren't they supposed to make some sort of decision? What a bunch of bullshit.

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No one is above the law, unless it's too big, too scary, to prosecute. (Original Post) fightforfreedom Mar 2022 OP
And capitalism is our system, unless the corporation is too big to fail Walleye Mar 2022 #1
+1 Bluethroughu Mar 2022 #3
Capitalism trumps the Constitution. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2022 #5
That's a good analysis. Thanks. LastDemocratInSC Mar 2022 #13
Seems to be about the size and shape of it. The Unmitigated Gall Mar 2022 #2
Corruption without consequences will be our fall, unless Bluethroughu Mar 2022 #4
A couple things... 2naSalit Mar 2022 #6
The prosecutor who resigned said Vance wanted to move forward. He did not end it. fightforfreedom Mar 2022 #9
That's what he claims Vance wanted... 2naSalit Mar 2022 #11
Too big to jail. jalan48 Mar 2022 #7
My sense is that the big time realtors cachukis Mar 2022 #8
+1 2naSalit Mar 2022 #12
The legal system in the USA is broken, top to PufPuf23 Mar 2022 #10
In the juducial system inthewind21 Mar 2022 #14

Eyeball_Kid

(7,429 posts)
5. Capitalism trumps the Constitution.
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 11:44 AM
Mar 2022

When the DOJ is (apparently) intimidated by the prospect of indicting purveyors of sedition who plotted to overthrow the government, we know that big business and the superwealthy own the government. The DOJ apparently only holds the motto "Equal Justice Under the Law" for the little people. The big owners ALWAYS GET A FREE PASS.

We are seeing, in real time, the conversion from a democratic republic to an oligarchy. Sure, Biden won the last election, but all around him, we are now seeing the tell-tale signs of emerging fascism, and it's unabated. The way to stop the spread is to have a very active DOJ because fascists are indifferent to laws. So they break them all the time. But we are witnessing an (apparently) intimidated DOJ that will give the most egregious of criminals a pass just so they can avoid the criticism from the GOP and the right wing.

Over and over, I thought that the judicious POV would be to be patient and wait for the DOJ to slowly deliberate and get everything right before assembling a grand jury and start with indictments of the entire Trump-led conspiracy to overthrow the government. But they're falling behind big time as more and more crimes are being uncovered, with no apparent DOJ response to the seditious conspiracy that is still active to this day.

So the obvious course of action is to step back and see what the DOJ is NOT doing within the wider context of the corruption of political, ethical, and legal leadership. What the DOJ is not doing is now eclipsing what they ARE doing. And what they are not doing reflects their diminishing role in the functioning of our democratic republic. And that means that corruption, power, and money run the show.

The Unmitigated Gall

(3,786 posts)
2. Seems to be about the size and shape of it.
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 11:24 AM
Mar 2022

When you bring in your shit-show, bring it in big. Shoot off your mouth, throw money around. Make it partisan.

They should catapult this waste of a legal pad into the East River.

2naSalit

(86,362 posts)
6. A couple things...
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 11:50 AM
Mar 2022

One. I suspect that the new DA was selected for a this purpose. Say what you will about Cy Vance but, he was the DA for how long and he never considered looking into tfg's empire before he actually did? What's wrong with that picture?

Vance needed an out because he has let tfg slide his entire career, both of their careers, and now he was cornered into prosecuting which might expose him in the end for looking the other way for so long. The new guy doesn't have that problem so get someone who can win the selection process (election?) and then shut that whole thing down before anyone else gets exposed. Like the Enquirer guy, just catch and kill prosecution that would have saved us all from the devastation -45 brought upon us. I think Vance and his successor are criminally involved here. I'm glad that the resignation letter of the prosecutor went public.

2naSalit

(86,362 posts)
11. That's what he claims Vance wanted...
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 12:13 PM
Mar 2022

Was that before he took office?

Something is really stinky, I can smell it all the way over here in Montana.

cachukis

(2,230 posts)
8. My sense is that the big time realtors
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 12:01 PM
Mar 2022

in Manhattan have been drenching their drawers over TFG's modus operandi being exposed. I suspect his game is commonly played out in other towers. It wouldn't surprise me that Bragg has been counseled by those plutocrats that his actions could upset a real estate market already in tumult.
These monied interests like the status quo and won't go lightly into the night.
Why else would Bragg choose his path? We all see the malfeasance. These guys have rationalized themselves to do no wrong.

PufPuf23

(8,756 posts)
10. The legal system in the USA is broken, top to
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 12:07 PM
Mar 2022

bottom.

There is no consistency and the system is overwhelmed.

Crime, operating in gray areas, cronyism, and delay delay delay work.

One cannot be in a position of legal authority without cynicism and a degree of corruption, often as simple as too big, too scary, and too big to prosecute.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
14. In the juducial system
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 12:27 PM
Mar 2022

He who has the most $$$$ wins. $500 or more an hour attorneys who can drag it out forever, the ability to file lawsuit after lawsuit no matter if it has merit or not. See DJT. Those with $$$$ can afford to play the game. If you get sued, you have to hire an attorney, file a response within a specified amount of time. If you do not, the filer wins a default judgement. If you do respond, have a trial and you prevail or the case gets dropped, AFTER you have spent thousands on legal fess, your recourse, hire an attorney, file a lawsuit and sue to get your money back. Lather rinse and repeat until you are too broke to do anything. Same thing in criminal. You need a LOT Of money to mount a criminal defense.

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