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FM123

(10,053 posts)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 12:17 PM Mar 2022

Russian Troops Suffer 'Acute Radiation Sickness' After Digging Chernobyl Trenches

(Daily Beast) Several hundred Russian soldiers were forced to hastily withdraw from the Chernobyl nuclear power plant in Ukraine after suffering “acute radiation sickness” from contaminated soil, according to Ukrainian officials.

The troops, who dug trenches in a contaminated Red Forest near the site of the worst nuclear disaster in history, are now reportedly being treated in a special medical facility in Gomel, Belarus. The forest is so named because thousands of pine trees turned red during the 1986 nuclear disaster. The area is considered so highly toxic that not even highly specialized Chernobyl workers are allowed to enter the zone.

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“Not surprisingly, the occupiers received significant doses of radiation and panicked at the first sign of illness. And it showed up very quickly.”

Local reports suggest that seven buses with the zapped troops arrived in Gomel early Thursday. Journalists on the ground have also reported “ghost buses” of dead soldiers being transported from Belarus to Russia under the cover of dark.


(Read More) https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-troops-suffer-acute-radiation-sickness-after-digging-chernobyl-trenches

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Russian Troops Suffer 'Acute Radiation Sickness' After Digging Chernobyl Trenches (Original Post) FM123 Mar 2022 OP
More of pootie's military genius on display!! PortTack Mar 2022 #1
Genius underpants Mar 2022 #2
It's been almost 40 years Warpy Mar 2022 #37
Not great, not terrible. Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #3
I can't fathom how these soldiers did Quakerfriend Mar 2022 #4
No, most of them are too young and never heard of it SoonerPride Mar 2022 #7
How could they not know of it? OhZone Mar 2022 #10
Chernobyl is not taught in Russian schools because it was key factor in the fall of the USSR SoonerPride Mar 2022 #14
Oh? OhZone Mar 2022 #17
YEP !! Kinda like MAGA wants to white wash their treason here uponit7771 Mar 2022 #22
I can't imagine there weren't signs around it dsc Mar 2022 #31
Oh I'm sure there are plenty of warnings all over the exclusion zone. SoonerPride Mar 2022 #32
I hadn't thought of it that way. Quakerfriend Mar 2022 #11
gee , i wonder why? AllaN01Bear Mar 2022 #5
Trenches, does Russia think it's 1920? sarcasmo Mar 2022 #6
It's where they slept BeyondGeography Mar 2022 #15
Broke, joke, military. sarcasmo Mar 2022 #16
+1, I'm starting to think the world should take their nukes away before they blow themselves up! uponit7771 Mar 2022 #24
Old nukes like Kim Jong Un's missiles. sarcasmo Mar 2022 #39
For warmth obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #28
Oh, Pootie-Poot! OhZone Mar 2022 #8
Who could possibly have imagined that? Jim__ Mar 2022 #9
Off topic somewhat but, Quakerfriend Mar 2022 #12
Earth truly was an Eden before people fucked it up. nt SunSeeker Mar 2022 #18
For a short period of time. Kaleva Mar 2022 #35
Not good for humans, but good for the life forms that existed at the time. Crunchy Frog Mar 2022 #41
It was only good for a bit before conditions in Earth changed Kaleva Mar 2022 #43
Not all of them obviously, or we wouldn't be here. Crunchy Frog Mar 2022 #44
I love this. SoonerPride Mar 2022 #20
Insanity. Putin really just doesn't give a shit. nt SunSeeker Mar 2022 #13
Yeah let's dig up the site of a nuclear explosion! What could possibly go wrong? Initech Mar 2022 #19
Clearly, leadership of Russian ground troops is not good. MineralMan Mar 2022 #21
Any "leadership" who knew were afraid to speak up about it. hunter Mar 2022 #25
Its worse, RA is very low on the rung in Russian society were here in the US even the private is ... uponit7771 Mar 2022 #26
If you've seen Episode 4 of the Chernobyl miniseries... Tommy Carcetti Mar 2022 #23
Unfortunately, most of these soldiers' families will never know what happened. halfulglas Mar 2022 #27
This war was abysmally planned by Putin's people. But I am also shocked that anyone here ... Hekate Mar 2022 #29
What was Trump said at Arlington Cemetery? That our war dead were suckers? Losers? Hekate Mar 2022 #30
You sure can't accuse Putin of not being innovative DFW Mar 2022 #33
Maybe he wanted to run experiments on them. I wouldn't put it past him. Crunchy Frog Mar 2022 #42
Experts doubt this is accurate muriel_volestrangler Mar 2022 #34
Thank you. mahina Mar 2022 #36
People believe what they want to believe. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2022 #38
As far as this ex-medic is concerned they are human beings FIRST and enemies later. Following orders usaf-vet Mar 2022 #40

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
37. It's been almost 40 years
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:37 PM
Mar 2022

and anyone who knows what is buried where is long since dead, not that anyone ever admitted what they died of.

That's the problem with authoritarian, totalitarian leadership. It doesn't like unpleasant truth.

OhZone

(3,212 posts)
10. How could they not know of it?
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 12:34 PM
Mar 2022

Like have the Russian troops never heard of the Titanic either??

I guess the west's fear mongering media stories that harp and milk fear and tragedy repeatedly year after year are actually helpful in being aware of risks like these.


Oh well.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
14. Chernobyl is not taught in Russian schools because it was key factor in the fall of the USSR
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 12:39 PM
Mar 2022

So it is simply not taught.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
32. Oh I'm sure there are plenty of warnings all over the exclusion zone.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 02:37 PM
Mar 2022

But they may think like much of what they see in Russia, that it was just empty threats.

"Don't come in here: nuclear poisoning threat."

"Yeah, sure. pffft."

Quakerfriend

(5,450 posts)
11. I hadn't thought of it that way.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 12:34 PM
Mar 2022

However, there are signs everywhere warning of the danger re: radiation within the zone.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
24. +1, I'm starting to think the world should take their nukes away before they blow themselves up!
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 01:36 PM
Mar 2022

I recently read an article about how low on the rung Russian Army is in society.

They are NOT revered like troops are here in the US, they are bullied by Putrids mafia to so he can stay in power.

Quakerfriend

(5,450 posts)
12. Off topic somewhat but,
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 12:38 PM
Mar 2022

if you haven’t yet seen this, it’s a wonderful documentary about the return of wildlife to the exclusion zone:

https://m.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
35. For a short period of time.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:04 PM
Mar 2022

For much of Earth's history, the planet would have been a very tough place for humans and many other species to survive.

Like when the moon was much closer to the Earth and tides were hundreds of feet high and would race across continents.

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
41. Not good for humans, but good for the life forms that existed at the time.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:50 PM
Mar 2022

Some of them were the ancestors of humans and other modern species, so we likely wouldn't be here without the Earth having existed in that state.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
21. Clearly, leadership of Russian ground troops is not good.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 01:28 PM
Mar 2022

Not educated. Not smart. Not able to lead their troops safely in any way. If this is typical, the Russian military is hopelessly inept.

hunter

(38,310 posts)
25. Any "leadership" who knew were afraid to speak up about it.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 01:40 PM
Mar 2022

That happens to some extent in the U.S.A. military but the only risk is that you are forced to become a civilian, which all things considered, may be a better life.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
26. Its worse, RA is very low on the rung in Russian society were here in the US even the private is ...
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 01:41 PM
Mar 2022

... revered and supported.

Putrids mafias who collude with the the generals and colonels steal from the military ALL THE TIME.

I'm thinking this country SHOULD NOT have nukes and most likely they don't even work.

They're going to blow themselves up

Tommy Carcetti

(43,173 posts)
23. If you've seen Episode 4 of the Chernobyl miniseries...
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 01:33 PM
Mar 2022

...you'll know how grim a condition Acute Radiation Sickness is.

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
27. Unfortunately, most of these soldiers' families will never know what happened.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 01:41 PM
Mar 2022

Most of them will be MIA and the families will blame Ukraine for this, not the recklessness of their commanders forcing the soldiers to enter that contaminated area. So many of the Ukrainians warned something like this could happen when they freaked out at the Russians taking that area and the callous way they treated the Chernobyl workers at the remainder of the power plant, keeping them from having shift changes as usual. So many of them didn't know the danger. The whole area is still contaminated.

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
29. This war was abysmally planned by Putin's people. But I am also shocked that anyone here ...
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 02:12 PM
Mar 2022

… does not know how public education works in an authoritarian regime AKA a dictatorship. Of course these young soldiers never heard about the Chernobyl disaster — it happened on the USSR’s watch and it makes Russia look bad. Public information of any sort is tightly controlled — there is absolutely no “need to know” as far as the overlords are concerned.

The humanitarian disaster created by Putin the Poisoner just gets worse and worse.



Hekate

(90,645 posts)
30. What was Trump said at Arlington Cemetery? That our war dead were suckers? Losers?
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 02:29 PM
Mar 2022

Putin the Poisoner goes the distance.



DFW

(54,345 posts)
33. You sure can't accuse Putin of not being innovative
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 02:49 PM
Mar 2022

Before this, he was just using his recruits as cannon fodder.

Now he has created the use of conscripts as Chernobyl fodder. How's that for a "glowing" recommendation?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,306 posts)
34. Experts doubt this is accurate
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:01 PM
Mar 2022

because you don't develop sudden radiation sickness from this kind of soil contamination - it increases your chances of cancer, instead:
















As recommended by Cheryl Rofer, retired nuclear scientist involved in disarmament, and blogger at Balloon Juice and Lawyers, Guns and Money - both reliable liberal blogs.


usaf-vet

(6,181 posts)
40. As far as this ex-medic is concerned they are human beings FIRST and enemies later. Following orders
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:41 PM
Mar 2022

They will likely suffer from this exposure for the remainder of their lives.

Think Agent Orange for Vietnam vets.

And now depleted uranium for those that served in Iraq and Afghanistan.

In all these cases, it is not just the combatants but also the civilian population.

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