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Wed Apr 13, 2022, 09:42 PM

This irks the hell out of me.

Will people please quit calling fascists anarchists?

Anarchists are against being ruled by an authoritarian authority.

It comes from anti archon,tyrant ruler. Anti tyrant.
Antifa are anti fascist., Anarchist.


Fascists are authoritarians NOT Anarchists.

Anarchism is a political philosophy and movement that is sceptical of authority and rejects all involuntary, coercive forms of hierarchy. Anarchism calls for the abolition of the (authoritarian) state, which it holds to be unnecessary, undesirable, and harmful.

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Reply This irks the hell out of me. (Original post)
I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2022 OP
ymetca Apr 2022 #1
Nictuku Apr 2022 #2
brooklynite Apr 2022 #3
SharonClark Apr 2022 #4
relayerbob Apr 2022 #5
abqtommy Apr 2022 #6
Hoyt Apr 2022 #7
I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2022 #8
Hoyt Apr 2022 #9
I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2022 #10
Hoyt Apr 2022 #11
Wounded Bear Apr 2022 #12

Response to I_UndergroundPanther (Original post)

Wed Apr 13, 2022, 09:50 PM

1. I forgot who

but I remember this quote once to the effect that most Americans are either closet anarchists or overt fascists, but not a lot in-between!

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Response to I_UndergroundPanther (Original post)

Wed Apr 13, 2022, 09:52 PM

2. and it would work....

Anarchism could actually work, IF (and here is the problem that infects ALL forms of Government/lack of government)

... It would work IF we didn't have Greed. Greed fucks every thing up. Those few bad apples fuck up the whole of society (eventually).

I wish I could surgically remove Greed from Human Kind.

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Response to I_UndergroundPanther (Original post)

Wed Apr 13, 2022, 09:58 PM

3. Who is doing this?

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Response to I_UndergroundPanther (Original post)

Wed Apr 13, 2022, 09:59 PM

4. Who is doing that?

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Response to I_UndergroundPanther (Original post)

Wed Apr 13, 2022, 10:07 PM

5. However, they share common tactics in trying to get their way

As has been said before ... move far enough away from the middle and the left and right merge.

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Response to relayerbob (Reply #5)

Wed Apr 13, 2022, 10:11 PM

6. I agree with you, but during WW2 the Anti-Fa Allies matched The Nazis tactic for tactic

(except for the extermination camps) and came out on top. Those were the days!

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Response to I_UndergroundPanther (Original post)

Wed Apr 13, 2022, 10:59 PM

7. Make it simple, which defines Bundy Ranchers, Klan, trump militias, etc.?

 

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 14, 2022, 12:09 AM

8. Fascists

They seek control to be the authority over a domain that is not thiers and to only have thier kind permitted there.racism.

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Response to I_UndergroundPanther (Reply #8)

Thu Apr 14, 2022, 12:19 AM

9. Think many want no federal government control, just their control. Hence Anarchist.

 

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #9)

Thu Apr 14, 2022, 12:33 AM

10. Anarchists do not want to control others

And they are anti authoritarian. Anti controlling authoritarian or fascist.

There is a big difference
Between anarchists and the anti fed types that want to escape state authority so they can become another authoritarian.

Anarchists are against domination by a fascist and do not want to be fascist themselves.

Anarchism is a socio-political theory which opposes all systems of domination and oppression such as racism, ableism, sexism, anti-LGBTTQIA, ageism, sizeism, government, competition, capitalism, colonialism, imperialism and punitive justice, and promotes direct democracy, collaboration, interdependence, mutual aid, diversity, peace, transformative justice and equity. (Nocella et al. 2015: 7)

A thorough-going anarchism would thus offer a critique of anything and everything that smacks of hierarchy, domination, centralization, and unjustified authority.

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/anarchism/#ApplAnar

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Response to I_UndergroundPanther (Reply #10)

Thu Apr 14, 2022, 11:20 AM

11. Heck, why are we even trying to put a name on these deplorable MFers?

 

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Response to I_UndergroundPanther (Original post)

Thu Apr 14, 2022, 11:28 AM

12. Anarchy (the practice, not the ideology) is the tool that authoritarians use to seize power...

The farther a nation sinks into anarchy, the more attractive a "strong leader" looks to the average citizen, who just wants the violence to stop.

This is a proven historical fact. The American Revolution and its after math were an anomoly, not the norm. Most revolutions result in some kind of authoritarian government. Russia, Iraq, Iran, the proliferation of fascism and its correllaries in the 30's. Typically, the 'common person' of any region will value order over chaos, and where do you find more order than in an authoritarian state?

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