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Simon Cundeys family have been tailor-making mens suits for seven generations, taking 37 measurements from every customer through the Great Depression and two world wars. The tailors arsenal of chalk, scissors and thread were put to work every weekday since the company was founded in 1806, until March 2020 when the government ordered almost everyone to work from home.
If theres one thing you cant do at home, its measure people for suits, says Cundey, who has worked for his family firm, Henry Poole & Co, tailors on Savile Row in London since his early 20s. The pandemic is, by far, the worst crisis the business has ever faced. It is far worse than the Great Depression or the wars ever were.
In wartime, the allied forces were here so we made uniforms for Americans and Canadians, and we could still see customers face-to-face, he says, as we chat on leather sofas in front of a roaring log fire in the shop, surrounded by 48 framed warrants from the royal family and other world leaders.
Post lockdown, Cundey and his team of cutters, undercutters, trouser-, jacket- and waistcoat-makers are back at work at 15 Savile Row the street known the world over as the home of the finest bespoke menswear and customers are coming back through the doors. But there are not as many as before the pandemic, and fewer than before the 2008 financial crisis. Its a story repeated up and down the row, and at other tailors across the country, as well as high street retailers from Marks & Spencer to Reiss, and online companies from Mr Porter to Asos.
https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2022/apr/18/the-end-of-the-suit-has-covid-finished-off-the-menswear-staple
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This old lady thinks suits are dumb. But you know what's even dumber? TIES!
Aristus
(66,316 posts)I love dressing up. I have a number of hand-finished suits, and about a hundred ties.
Let the tee-shirt-and-dirty-sweats guys wear whatever they want. When all this is over, and I can hit the town again, I'm going to look like a million bucks, tax-free, not like a buck-fifty and a can of Bud Lite.
Volaris
(10,270 posts)(The other job is scrubs).
A tailored suit, tho, is very very much on the Bucket List, for those occasions where one is called for.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)sop
(10,155 posts)jmowreader
(50,553 posts)When I first planned to go to Hawaii one of my goals was to buy some real Hawaiian shirts - not the ones in the ABC Stores, but the kind actual Hawaiians wear. And then I found out those traitors wear them as their uniform. Nope, nope, nope. No aloha shirts for me.
Jerry2144
(2,099 posts)We called ties, foreskin restraining device since the people who wore them visiting the ship needed them to keep the foreskin from creeping up and covering their eyes and mouths/noses. They were all dickheads set to make our lives harder
northoftheborder
(7,572 posts)Untukit does Not substitute well..
3catwoman3
(23,971 posts)IIRC, he calls this shirt design his "life's mission." How incredibly shallow.
DavidDvorkin
(19,473 posts)But it's too much to hope for.
dutch777
(3,010 posts)...have definitely decided to dress down much more. Not to say they are shabby, but casual pants and just shirts seem as dressy as it gets in most public situations I have been in lately. A few months ago, my wife and I went to a very upscale restaurant on a Saturday night and she always dresses sharp and I wanted to compliment that with a nice shirt, tie and blazer with dress slacks and shoes. I definitely stood out in comparison to the other male diners. I think all evening only one older gentleman had a tie on and most didn't even have jackets. An evening at the ballet of all things was similar not long ago. I don't care that much for me, and if it makes my wife happy it's worth it, but must be tough to be in the suit and tie sales business for sure.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)All I need is a navy blazer or two.
HeartachesNhangovers
(814 posts)My wife and I are going to her niece's wedding in a few weeks and my wife is still looking for a dress to wear. The purchase of the dress may require new shoes, if none of her existing ones match. I, on the other hand, knew exactly what I was going to wear the day we received the invitation. I'm not going to spend any money and I'm going to look well put-together.
I wore suits to work regularly for 26 years until I retired, and I never had to think much about what I was going to wear and always looked professional. Suits are for people with more important things to think about than fashion.
barbaraann
(9,151 posts)He rocks those olive drab t-shirts!
SamKnause
(13,091 posts)They look uncomfortable and very restraining.
They are drab and colorless.
I don't find them attractive on men.
The men's tie should go down in history as the dumbest article of clothing ever invented.
For going out to dinner, or on a date I like blazers with a nice shirt underneath, no tie.
I find construction workers to be the sexiest men on earth.
A man that works with his hands does it for me every time.
When you can see a man's muscles as he is working on or lifting something, that is sexy to me.
I don't like the look of weight lifters.
They gross me out.
Just my opinions.
Jilly_in_VA
(9,965 posts)They were meant to disguise where the collar attached to the shirt (collars were made separately back then). Now they're just ornamental. Most younger men don't even know how to tie one.
I'm with you on, not so much weight lifters, but body builders. My daughter and I call them "bumpy people".
My husband owns one suit, the one he bought just before we got married. Otherwise he has some casual jackets (what used to be called "sport coats" to wear on customer calls. He looks just fine in those.
SamKnause
(13,091 posts)I am always eager to learn new things.
Sport coats reminds me of a song my mother and father use to listen to: A White Sport Coat and a Pink Carnation
by Marty Robbins.
I just call them blazers.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)That's what I used them for, anyway.
Ohio Joe
(21,751 posts)I was a newb programmer and we had to wear a suit every day. Every Friday was known as 'Ugly Tie Friday' and everyone would wear the ugliest tie they could find. It would upset management but we would laugh and laugh... Heh, so many ugly ties
Ms. Toad
(34,060 posts)Since I do custom sewing, that frees me to be a little sad at its potential passing.
The last time I checked (admittedly years ago), alterations were free for men in high end stores - but not for women. That appears to have changed.
Jilly_in_VA
(9,965 posts)This short person applauds this news!
Iggo
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