Sat Apr 23, 2022, 10:16 AM
Smackdown2019 (984 posts)
January 6 insurgents ALL should lose their right to vote!
I just watched a 28 minute video this morning of the January 6 insurgents on the Capitol and the democratic party SHOULD REPLAY those videos on TV for the next three months. EVERY PERSON that turned towards the the Capitol and/or joined the crowd of insurgents should lose their right the vote. They KNEW it was not going to be a peaceful protest when MOST of those in the crowds were in protection gear and flags where displayed. Chants of PUSHING through the Capitol police were loudly made, where anyone that was present WOULD KNOW that THEIR intentions were to stop a legal congressional proceeding of certifications of a US Election.
Every cellphone, picture, bus trip for the Trump event and every post made by those individuals at the January 6 should lose their right to vote!
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Smackdown2019 | Apr 2022 | OP |
Walleye | Apr 2022 | #1 | |
Bayard | Apr 2022 | #2 | |
SCantiGOP | Apr 2022 | #3 | |
Hoyt | Apr 2022 | #4 | |
Smackdown2019 | Apr 2022 | #5 | |
AZSkiffyGeek | Apr 2022 | #6 | |
pecosbob | Apr 2022 | #22 | |
SCantiGOP | Apr 2022 | #31 | |
leftyladyfrommo | Apr 2022 | #7 | |
Igirl | Apr 2022 | #8 | |
iemanja | Apr 2022 | #9 | |
Smackdown2019 | Apr 2022 | #10 | |
iemanja | Apr 2022 | #13 | |
former9thward | Apr 2022 | #32 | |
former9thward | Apr 2022 | #33 | |
Smackdown2019 | Apr 2022 | #34 | |
Smackdown2019 | Apr 2022 | #11 | |
iemanja | Apr 2022 | #12 | |
Smackdown2019 | Apr 2022 | #14 | |
iemanja | Apr 2022 | #17 | |
Smackdown2019 | Apr 2022 | #18 | |
iemanja | Apr 2022 | #19 | |
Smackdown2019 | Apr 2022 | #23 | |
iemanja | Apr 2022 | #25 | |
Smackdown2019 | Apr 2022 | #16 | |
WhiskeyGrinder | Apr 2022 | #21 | |
iemanja | Apr 2022 | #24 | |
WhiskeyGrinder | Apr 2022 | #26 | |
iemanja | Apr 2022 | #28 | |
WhiskeyGrinder | Apr 2022 | #29 | |
Smackdown2019 | Apr 2022 | #15 | |
sciencescience | Apr 2022 | #20 | |
WhiskeyGrinder | Apr 2022 | #27 | |
ForgedCrank | Apr 2022 | #30 |
Response to Smackdown2019 (Original post)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 10:23 AM
Walleye (21,782 posts)
1. They don't really believe in voting. They take power through mob violence
Response to Smackdown2019 (Original post)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 10:42 AM
Bayard (17,740 posts)
2. An excellent idea
Certainly everyone who's been convicted.
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Response to Smackdown2019 (Original post)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 11:01 AM
SCantiGOP (13,063 posts)
3. My opinion
No one who is a citizen should lose their right to vote.
I believe in democracy without reservation. |
Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #3)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 11:07 AM
Hoyt (54,770 posts)
4. Totally agree. Unfortunately, we live in era when storming the Capitol is not the only way groups
try to manipulate an elections.
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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #3)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 11:30 AM
Smackdown2019 (984 posts)
5. Sorry, BUT
When they tried to violently overthrow a voting process...., sorry, they declared themselves an enemy of the state and NOT a US Citizen then. That is what the Confederate loyalists did and there was a VAST amount of Confederate flags and Trump flags at the US Capitol January 6.
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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #3)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 11:33 AM
AZSkiffyGeek (8,511 posts)
6. Unfortunately the DU authoritarians are ready to shred the Constitution
If it gets them some vengeance against TFG and his supporters.
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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #3)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 04:31 PM
pecosbob (6,901 posts)
22. Upon conviction of a felony in this country you DO lose the right to vote
Response to pecosbob (Reply #22)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 09:13 PM
SCantiGOP (13,063 posts)
31. That varies from state to state
Not trying to argue, just giving my opinion that it is a dangerous idea to deprive anyone of their right to vote or hold office as long as they meet the age and residency requirements.
I would agree that anyone who is convicted of treason or participating in an insurrection should be banned, but that is already required by the Constitution. |
Response to Smackdown2019 (Original post)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 12:08 PM
leftyladyfrommo (17,340 posts)
7. Most of those people probably don't vote anyway.
I read something a couple of days ago that said a lot of those people had ties to rightwing groups. I am guessing anti govt. Groups.
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Response to Smackdown2019 (Original post)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 12:08 PM
Igirl (80 posts)
8. If the are convicted of a felony.
We shouldn’t compromise our system with arbitrary ways of losing our rights.
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Response to Smackdown2019 (Original post)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 12:32 PM
iemanja (52,406 posts)
9. So much for the constitution
Make sure you throw it out when you don't agree with people. 1)No one loses their right to vote if they haven't committed a felony. Just because you suspect someone of wrongdoing doesn't mean their constitutional rights deserve to be stripped. There is something called due process. 2) Say they are convicted of a felony, which in most states means their voting rights are stripped. Is it your position that all felons be deprived of the right to vote, or only the ones you don't like? Do you oppose the Democratic position that all Americans, including those in prison, should have the right to vote? If so, why are you a Democrat?
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Response to iemanja (Reply #9)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 12:43 PM
Smackdown2019 (984 posts)
10. What they did IS considered a felony!
They joined the TRUMP ARMY that KILLED people!
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Response to Smackdown2019 (Reply #10)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 12:50 PM
iemanja (52,406 posts)
13. then the ones who have been convicted
and will be convicted of felonies will lose their voting rights. You don't need to make special laws proclaiming something that already occurs.
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Response to Smackdown2019 (Reply #10)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 11:45 PM
former9thward (28,200 posts)
32. Most arrested have not been charged with felonies.
They have been charged with misdemeanors.
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Response to Smackdown2019 (Reply #10)
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 12:04 AM
former9thward (28,200 posts)
33. Most arrested have not been charged with felonies.
They have been charged with misdemeanors.
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Response to former9thward (Reply #33)
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 09:45 AM
Smackdown2019 (984 posts)
34. True
Their sentences were lenient, according to the 14th though, they can still lose their right to voting. No matter if it was a felony or not.
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Response to iemanja (Reply #9)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 12:44 PM
Smackdown2019 (984 posts)
11. You should watch the 28 minutes video by LA Times!
Response to Smackdown2019 (Reply #11)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 12:49 PM
iemanja (52,406 posts)
12. Which will suddenly make me an authoritarian?
I seriously doubt it. I can find their behavior repugnant and still maintain principles.
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Response to iemanja (Reply #12)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 03:00 PM
Smackdown2019 (984 posts)
14. This country has seen the ugly side of hate and corruption.
The fourteenth amendment!
"Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State." |
Response to Smackdown2019 (Reply #14)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 04:03 PM
iemanja (52,406 posts)
17. where in that does it say
People should be stripped of the right to vote because you suspect them of a crime?
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Response to iemanja (Reply #17)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 04:09 PM
Smackdown2019 (984 posts)
18. Here
Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State
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Response to Smackdown2019 (Reply #18)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 04:17 PM
iemanja (52,406 posts)
19. CONVICTED
Not suspected. And those convicted of committing felonies will already lose their rights to vote. How many times do I have to tell you this very basic point?
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Response to iemanja (Reply #19)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 04:33 PM
Smackdown2019 (984 posts)
23. Due process, YES
That is why I mentioned any pictures, text messages and videos of such as EVIDENCE of the crime of insurgent rebellion.
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Response to Smackdown2019 (Reply #23)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 04:34 PM
iemanja (52,406 posts)
25. Only if a court determines it merits conviction
Not because you saw someone, whose name you don't even know, on the interwebz.
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Response to Smackdown2019 (Reply #11)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 03:05 PM
Smackdown2019 (984 posts)
16. Here is the link oh the LA Times.
Response to iemanja (Reply #9)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 04:18 PM
WhiskeyGrinder (19,198 posts)
21. Tangent:
Do you oppose the Democratic position that all Americans, including those in prison, should have the right to vote? Cite on the "Democratic position"? |
Response to iemanja (Reply #24)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 04:40 PM
WhiskeyGrinder (19,198 posts)
26. Looks like it's only after they've completed their sentences, not when they're incarcerated.
(I've been drinking, so it's entirely possible I missed the part where support for still-incarcerated people voting was mentioned -- and I want to be clear, this was not a gotcha; I hadn't heard about any change in the position so I jumped on your comment.)
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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #26)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 04:49 PM
iemanja (52,406 posts)
28. There's a bill introduced in the House
by the progressive caucus. https://www.publishedreporter.com/2021/03/03/legislation-to-give-prison-inmates-right-to-vote-fails-miserably-as-119-democrats-join-republicans-to-reject/
So not a uniform Democratic position. |
Response to iemanja (Reply #28)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 04:56 PM
WhiskeyGrinder (19,198 posts)
29. It is a position that certainly would be difficult to run on.
Response to Smackdown2019 (Original post)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 03:02 PM
Smackdown2019 (984 posts)
15. 14th amendment, second section.
The fourteenth amendment!
"Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State." |
Response to Smackdown2019 (Original post)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 04:17 PM
sciencescience (106 posts)
20. Agreed, if anyone should lose their right to vote it should be people who try to overthrow elections
Response to Smackdown2019 (Original post)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 04:41 PM
WhiskeyGrinder (19,198 posts)
27. Disagree. I can't think of any good reason for disenfranchisement.
Response to Smackdown2019 (Original post)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 08:44 PM
ForgedCrank (1,111 posts)
30. Do you have
other reasons that you would want to list that should disqualify Americans from voting?
Personally, I find the concept revolting. |