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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJanuary 6 insurgents ALL should lose their right to vote!
I just watched a 28 minute video this morning of the January 6 insurgents on the Capitol and the democratic party SHOULD REPLAY those videos on TV for the next three months. EVERY PERSON that turned towards the the Capitol and/or joined the crowd of insurgents should lose their right the vote. They KNEW it was not going to be a peaceful protest when MOST of those in the crowds were in protection gear and flags where displayed. Chants of PUSHING through the Capitol police were loudly made, where anyone that was present WOULD KNOW that THEIR intentions were to stop a legal congressional proceeding of certifications of a US Election.
Every cellphone, picture, bus trip for the Trump event and every post made by those individuals at the January 6 should lose their right to vote!
Walleye
(30,977 posts)Bayard
(22,005 posts)Certainly everyone who's been convicted.
SCantiGOP
(13,865 posts)No one who is a citizen should lose their right to vote.
I believe in democracy without reservation.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)try to manipulate an elections.
Smackdown2019
(1,184 posts)When they tried to violently overthrow a voting process...., sorry, they declared themselves an enemy of the state and NOT a US Citizen then. That is what the Confederate loyalists did and there was a VAST amount of Confederate flags and Trump flags at the US Capitol January 6.
AZSkiffyGeek
(10,971 posts)If it gets them some vengeance against TFG and his supporters.
pecosbob
(7,533 posts)SCantiGOP
(13,865 posts)Not trying to argue, just giving my opinion that it is a dangerous idea to deprive anyone of their right to vote or hold office as long as they meet the age and residency requirements.
I would agree that anyone who is convicted of treason or participating in an insurrection should be banned, but that is already required by the Constitution.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,864 posts)I read something a couple of days ago that said a lot of those people had ties to rightwing groups. I am guessing anti govt. Groups.
Igirl
(80 posts)We shouldnt compromise our system with arbitrary ways of losing our rights.
iemanja
(53,012 posts)Make sure you throw it out when you don't agree with people. 1)No one loses their right to vote if they haven't committed a felony. Just because you suspect someone of wrongdoing doesn't mean their constitutional rights deserve to be stripped. There is something called due process. 2) Say they are convicted of a felony, which in most states means their voting rights are stripped. Is it your position that all felons be deprived of the right to vote, or only the ones you don't like? Do you oppose the Democratic position that all Americans, including those in prison, should have the right to vote? If so, why are you a Democrat?
Smackdown2019
(1,184 posts)They joined the TRUMP ARMY that KILLED people!
iemanja
(53,012 posts)and will be convicted of felonies will lose their voting rights. You don't need to make special laws proclaiming something that already occurs.
former9thward
(31,936 posts)They have been charged with misdemeanors.
former9thward
(31,936 posts)They have been charged with misdemeanors.
Smackdown2019
(1,184 posts)Their sentences were lenient, according to the 14th though, they can still lose their right to voting. No matter if it was a felony or not.
Smackdown2019
(1,184 posts)iemanja
(53,012 posts)I seriously doubt it. I can find their behavior repugnant and still maintain principles.
Smackdown2019
(1,184 posts)The fourteenth amendment!
"Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State."
iemanja
(53,012 posts)People should be stripped of the right to vote because you suspect them of a crime?
Smackdown2019
(1,184 posts)Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State
iemanja
(53,012 posts)Not suspected. And those convicted of committing felonies will already lose their rights to vote. How many times do I have to tell you this very basic point?
Smackdown2019
(1,184 posts)That is why I mentioned any pictures, text messages and videos of such as EVIDENCE of the crime of insurgent rebellion.
iemanja
(53,012 posts)Not because you saw someone, whose name you don't even know, on the interwebz.
Smackdown2019
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|WhiskeyGrinder
(22,307 posts)iemanja
(53,012 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,307 posts)(I've been drinking, so it's entirely possible I missed the part where support for still-incarcerated people voting was mentioned -- and I want to be clear, this was not a gotcha; I hadn't heard about any change in the position so I jumped on your comment.)
iemanja
(53,012 posts)by the progressive caucus. https://www.publishedreporter.com/2021/03/03/legislation-to-give-prison-inmates-right-to-vote-fails-miserably-as-119-democrats-join-republicans-to-reject/
So not a uniform Democratic position.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,307 posts)Smackdown2019
(1,184 posts)The fourteenth amendment!
"Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State."
sciencescience
(109 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,307 posts)ForgedCrank
(1,764 posts)other reasons that you would want to list that should disqualify Americans from voting?
Personally, I find the concept revolting.