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Smackdown2019

(1,184 posts)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 11:16 AM Apr 2022

January 6 insurgents ALL should lose their right to vote!

I just watched a 28 minute video this morning of the January 6 insurgents on the Capitol and the democratic party SHOULD REPLAY those videos on TV for the next three months. EVERY PERSON that turned towards the the Capitol and/or joined the crowd of insurgents should lose their right the vote. They KNEW it was not going to be a peaceful protest when MOST of those in the crowds were in protection gear and flags where displayed. Chants of PUSHING through the Capitol police were loudly made, where anyone that was present WOULD KNOW that THEIR intentions were to stop a legal congressional proceeding of certifications of a US Election.

Every cellphone, picture, bus trip for the Trump event and every post made by those individuals at the January 6 should lose their right to vote!

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January 6 insurgents ALL should lose their right to vote! (Original Post) Smackdown2019 Apr 2022 OP
They don't really believe in voting. They take power through mob violence Walleye Apr 2022 #1
An excellent idea Bayard Apr 2022 #2
My opinion SCantiGOP Apr 2022 #3
Totally agree. Unfortunately, we live in era when storming the Capitol is not the only way groups Hoyt Apr 2022 #4
Sorry, BUT Smackdown2019 Apr 2022 #5
Unfortunately the DU authoritarians are ready to shred the Constitution AZSkiffyGeek Apr 2022 #6
Upon conviction of a felony in this country you DO lose the right to vote pecosbob Apr 2022 #22
That varies from state to state SCantiGOP Apr 2022 #31
Most of those people probably don't vote anyway. leftyladyfrommo Apr 2022 #7
If the are convicted of a felony. Igirl Apr 2022 #8
So much for the constitution iemanja Apr 2022 #9
What they did IS considered a felony! Smackdown2019 Apr 2022 #10
then the ones who have been convicted iemanja Apr 2022 #13
Most arrested have not been charged with felonies. former9thward Apr 2022 #32
Most arrested have not been charged with felonies. former9thward Apr 2022 #33
True Smackdown2019 Apr 2022 #34
You should watch the 28 minutes video by LA Times! Smackdown2019 Apr 2022 #11
Which will suddenly make me an authoritarian? iemanja Apr 2022 #12
This country has seen the ugly side of hate and corruption. Smackdown2019 Apr 2022 #14
where in that does it say iemanja Apr 2022 #17
Here Smackdown2019 Apr 2022 #18
CONVICTED iemanja Apr 2022 #19
Due process, YES Smackdown2019 Apr 2022 #23
Only if a court determines it merits conviction iemanja Apr 2022 #25
Here is the link oh the LA Times. Smackdown2019 Apr 2022 #16
Tangent: WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2022 #21
here iemanja Apr 2022 #24
Looks like it's only after they've completed their sentences, not when they're incarcerated. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2022 #26
There's a bill introduced in the House iemanja Apr 2022 #28
It is a position that certainly would be difficult to run on. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2022 #29
14th amendment, second section. Smackdown2019 Apr 2022 #15
Agreed, if anyone should lose their right to vote it should be people who try to overthrow elections sciencescience Apr 2022 #20
Disagree. I can't think of any good reason for disenfranchisement. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2022 #27
Do you have ForgedCrank Apr 2022 #30

SCantiGOP

(13,865 posts)
3. My opinion
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 12:01 PM
Apr 2022

No one who is a citizen should lose their right to vote.
I believe in democracy without reservation.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. Totally agree. Unfortunately, we live in era when storming the Capitol is not the only way groups
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 12:07 PM
Apr 2022

try to manipulate an elections.

Smackdown2019

(1,184 posts)
5. Sorry, BUT
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 12:30 PM
Apr 2022

When they tried to violently overthrow a voting process...., sorry, they declared themselves an enemy of the state and NOT a US Citizen then. That is what the Confederate loyalists did and there was a VAST amount of Confederate flags and Trump flags at the US Capitol January 6.

AZSkiffyGeek

(10,971 posts)
6. Unfortunately the DU authoritarians are ready to shred the Constitution
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 12:33 PM
Apr 2022

If it gets them some vengeance against TFG and his supporters.

SCantiGOP

(13,865 posts)
31. That varies from state to state
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 10:13 PM
Apr 2022

Not trying to argue, just giving my opinion that it is a dangerous idea to deprive anyone of their right to vote or hold office as long as they meet the age and residency requirements.
I would agree that anyone who is convicted of treason or participating in an insurrection should be banned, but that is already required by the Constitution.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,864 posts)
7. Most of those people probably don't vote anyway.
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 01:08 PM
Apr 2022

I read something a couple of days ago that said a lot of those people had ties to rightwing groups. I am guessing anti govt. Groups.

 

Igirl

(80 posts)
8. If the are convicted of a felony.
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 01:08 PM
Apr 2022

We shouldn’t compromise our system with arbitrary ways of losing our rights.

iemanja

(53,012 posts)
9. So much for the constitution
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 01:32 PM
Apr 2022

Make sure you throw it out when you don't agree with people. 1)No one loses their right to vote if they haven't committed a felony. Just because you suspect someone of wrongdoing doesn't mean their constitutional rights deserve to be stripped. There is something called due process. 2) Say they are convicted of a felony, which in most states means their voting rights are stripped. Is it your position that all felons be deprived of the right to vote, or only the ones you don't like? Do you oppose the Democratic position that all Americans, including those in prison, should have the right to vote? If so, why are you a Democrat?

iemanja

(53,012 posts)
13. then the ones who have been convicted
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 01:50 PM
Apr 2022

and will be convicted of felonies will lose their voting rights. You don't need to make special laws proclaiming something that already occurs.

Smackdown2019

(1,184 posts)
34. True
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 10:45 AM
Apr 2022

Their sentences were lenient, according to the 14th though, they can still lose their right to voting. No matter if it was a felony or not.

iemanja

(53,012 posts)
12. Which will suddenly make me an authoritarian?
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 01:49 PM
Apr 2022

I seriously doubt it. I can find their behavior repugnant and still maintain principles.

Smackdown2019

(1,184 posts)
14. This country has seen the ugly side of hate and corruption.
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 04:00 PM
Apr 2022

The fourteenth amendment!

"Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State."


iemanja

(53,012 posts)
17. where in that does it say
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 05:03 PM
Apr 2022

People should be stripped of the right to vote because you suspect them of a crime?

Smackdown2019

(1,184 posts)
18. Here
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 05:09 PM
Apr 2022

Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State

iemanja

(53,012 posts)
19. CONVICTED
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 05:17 PM
Apr 2022

Not suspected. And those convicted of committing felonies will already lose their rights to vote. How many times do I have to tell you this very basic point?

Smackdown2019

(1,184 posts)
23. Due process, YES
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 05:33 PM
Apr 2022

That is why I mentioned any pictures, text messages and videos of such as EVIDENCE of the crime of insurgent rebellion.

iemanja

(53,012 posts)
25. Only if a court determines it merits conviction
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 05:34 PM
Apr 2022

Not because you saw someone, whose name you don't even know, on the interwebz.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,307 posts)
21. Tangent:
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 05:18 PM
Apr 2022
Do you oppose the Democratic position that all Americans, including those in prison, should have the right to vote?
Cite on the "Democratic position"?

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,307 posts)
26. Looks like it's only after they've completed their sentences, not when they're incarcerated.
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 05:40 PM
Apr 2022

(I've been drinking, so it's entirely possible I missed the part where support for still-incarcerated people voting was mentioned -- and I want to be clear, this was not a gotcha; I hadn't heard about any change in the position so I jumped on your comment.)

Smackdown2019

(1,184 posts)
15. 14th amendment, second section.
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 04:02 PM
Apr 2022

The fourteenth amendment!

"Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State."

ForgedCrank

(1,764 posts)
30. Do you have
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 09:44 PM
Apr 2022

other reasons that you would want to list that should disqualify Americans from voting?
Personally, I find the concept revolting.

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