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TeamProg

(6,117 posts)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 01:15 PM Apr 2022

MTG hearing clearly shows that the obvious reason that MTG couldn't

simply and honestly say "No" to most of the questions is because she would be lying.

Who would have thought?

I personally do not think that the plaintiff's lawyer did a very good job. He could have pressed every "I don't recall
with a "So then, you are NOT denying that you were there or said that, correct?".

He only did that a handful of times.

That she was considered a hostile witness by the judge probably holds more weight than anything the plaintiff's lawyer got her to say during the hearing.

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MTG hearing clearly shows that the obvious reason that MTG couldn't (Original Post) TeamProg Apr 2022 OP
She very clearly ran from her record. onecaliberal Apr 2022 #1
She stammered over whether she believes in QAnon or not Walleye Apr 2022 #2
"Q is a patriot. We know that for sure" niyad Apr 2022 #6
She didn't want to be caught telling the truth randr Apr 2022 #3
Sadly, you are right. They are all on the side of falshoods now. erronis Apr 2022 #5
the ruling she was hostile is meaningless Hamlette Apr 2022 #4
Precisely PJMcK Apr 2022 #7
Thanks, hoped someone would clarify this: 'legal speak' elleng Apr 2022 #9
Did the gazpacho police VGNonly Apr 2022 #8
Couldn't the plaintiff's attorney produce wnylib Apr 2022 #10
One would think! n/t TeamProg Apr 2022 #11
She never hems and haws at a Rally does she? Captain Zero Apr 2022 #12
+1 !!! TeamProg Apr 2022 #13
He did, when he had them. brooklynite Apr 2022 #19
It looked to me like Bopp and emptyG were well prepared Leith Apr 2022 #14
So it obvious this weak spined woman kacekwl Apr 2022 #15
Excellent points there, Jimmy! n/t TeamProg Apr 2022 #17
I heard him ask her that a few times (if she was not denying...). chowder66 Apr 2022 #16
" you are NOT denying that you were there" brooklynite Apr 2022 #18

erronis

(15,241 posts)
5. Sadly, you are right. They are all on the side of falshoods now.
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 02:42 PM
Apr 2022

Not going to be easy having a discussion or especially any reconciliation with these brainwashed specimens.

Hamlette

(15,411 posts)
4. the ruling she was hostile is meaningless
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 02:36 PM
Apr 2022

half of all witnesses are considered adverse or hostile. All it means is that MTG was acting as an adversary and the attorney can ask leading questions. It's legal speak and happens in most if not all trials.

Captain Zero

(6,802 posts)
12. She never hems and haws at a Rally does she?
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 04:01 PM
Apr 2022

Never stands in front of Magats and says
Ah, uhm. Uh. I don't recall.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
14. It looked to me like Bopp and emptyG were well prepared
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 04:06 PM
Apr 2022

She knew when to say "yes," when to say "no," and mostly when to say "I don't recall." Since she asked for questions to be rephrased so often tells me that she was shopping for certain phrases that she had been coached on.

As for the other side, again my opinion - it looked like they were not prepared. The lawyer for the plaintiff shuffled through papers too much, was unclear on what video clips were what, and they had not arranged for simple laptop to screen visuals that anyone who cracked open a PowerPoint for Dummies book could have done smoothly.

Added to that, knowing that rethugs dismiss any news outlet outside of Fox News, OAN, and NewsMax as "fake news," they should have used clips of her speaking the words she claimed were taken out of context without letting it slip that the source was Mother Jones. Would anyone here accept a video sourced from a reichwing source as a serious piece of evidence in a court proceeding? Of course not.

I have run meetings in corporate settings and taught language classes in my professional careers. The key to a successful presentation comes down to preparation preparation preparation. Notice that I did not say experience, massive brain power, or the oratorical skill of Alan Shore.* You just need the ability to stand in front of the audience, have all your ducks in an organized row, and methodically show the evidence without having to take a recess to find it.

* I've been binge watching Boston Legal. While I would never want to be a friend or colleague of James Spader's character, he sure is fun to watch.

kacekwl

(7,016 posts)
15. So it obvious this weak spined woman
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 05:33 PM
Apr 2022

doesn't really believe what she says to her dipshit followers. If she was proud of her stance she wouldn't be afraid to answer. I wonder if her flock will see she's not as committed to the fraud as they thought. Wake up dummies you're being used.

chowder66

(9,067 posts)
16. I heard him ask her that a few times (if she was not denying...).
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 06:18 PM
Apr 2022

Also, a couple of lawyers on twitter Terry Kanefield is one I think was saying that he was getting her on record, not trying gotcha questions. The fact that she didn't say NO was getting her on record of not denying anything. It's difficult to prove anything but an judge should be able to see that she was lying....something to that effect.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
18. " you are NOT denying that you were there"
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 08:17 PM
Apr 2022

If he had said that, MTG’s attorney would have objected, and would have been sustained. An Attorney cannot speculate about motives or facts not in evidence.

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