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calguy

(5,290 posts)
Tue May 3, 2022, 02:26 PM May 2022

The SCOTUS decision to overturn Roe v Wade can be easily remedied

All it takes is enough people who are disgusted with the republican agenda to show up to the polls in November in such overwhelming numbers none of the GOP efforts to suppress the vote can overcome.

If the Dems have strong majorities in both branches of Congress, they can steam roll new legislation into law.

Will this happen? I doubt it. Until enough people get off their asses, we can expect more of the sane.

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The SCOTUS decision to overturn Roe v Wade can be easily remedied (Original Post) calguy May 2022 OP
We couldn't even get enough Democrats to show up to elect a woman president. LongtimeAZDem May 2022 #1
She did win. By 3 million votes. FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #2
Well said! hamsterjill May 2022 #3
The Electoral College, 16% of the population controlling a majority of votes in the Senate... Spider Jerusalem May 2022 #7
Yes! 10 senators are sent by states whose combined population is less than that of Los Angeles. :-( TheRickles May 2022 #22
+100,000,000 SergeStorms May 2022 #23
Yeah, failing to show up IS the problem Chicago1980 May 2022 #9
"Democrats have to overachieve at the polls" FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #16
Just need a plurality. Not 70% Kaleva May 2022 #19
THIS. calimary May 2022 #24
Not where it mattered LongtimeAZDem May 2022 #30
And that's why the voting laws really mattered FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #32
Why we should just give up and not make the effort I suppose... Demsrule86 May 2022 #4
Well, have we done anything to remedy waiting hours to vote?? TheRealNorth May 2022 #5
No shit. Or the problem with unverifiable easily-hacked voting machines. FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #6
James Comey was responsible for that. StevieM May 2022 #15
If only it was so easy. barbtries May 2022 #8
It seems that my definition of easy is quite different from the OP's. 😐 TheBlackAdder May 2022 #31
Go early beat all the republican voters so they give up and go home. Bev54 May 2022 #10
This is not the time for "vote harder" leftstreet May 2022 #11
Actually, we can expect more of the... reACTIONary May 2022 #12
Spell check doesn't correct grammar, but I got the joke. XacerbatedDem May 2022 #21
Only if wryter2000 May 2022 #13
Even if we do get 60 FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #17
Ben Nelson was also with Lieberman wryter2000 May 2022 #29
SC has the power to overturn a federal law as they see fit AlexSFCA May 2022 #14
expand the suprime court. also enact court reforms . VOTE. AllaN01Bear May 2022 #18
"expand the supreme court"...YES, that should have already been done. Escurumbele May 2022 #26
I suspect the current court would overturn most attempts at codifying Roe eallen May 2022 #20
Your blog started very well, until the last negative line. Escurumbele May 2022 #25
We don't have an equivalent to faux TV and hate radio. NewHendoLib May 2022 #27
My last sentence wasn't meant to be negative calguy May 2022 #35
Of course SCOTUS can take any law Congress managed to pass and rule it Unconstitutional SoonerPride May 2022 #28
People do get off their asses. 2020 was a record year. "Vote harder" at this point has diminishing WhiskeyGrinder May 2022 #33
You assume we have a large numerical advantage to be used Amishman May 2022 #34

FoxNewsSucks

(10,415 posts)
2. She did win. By 3 million votes.
Tue May 3, 2022, 02:42 PM
May 2022

The Senate and House Democrats get millions more votes every cycle, yet republicons nearly always control things.

Failing to show up isn't the problem. Doing nothing about republicon cheating and stealing is.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
7. The Electoral College, 16% of the population controlling a majority of votes in the Senate...
Tue May 3, 2022, 03:04 PM
May 2022

and gerrymandering are the problem. American "democracy" is hopelessly broken and possibly not worth saving in its current form.

SergeStorms

(19,177 posts)
23. +100,000,000
Tue May 3, 2022, 05:06 PM
May 2022

That freaking Electoral College has to go, but nothing can be done when we have Democrats voting with republicans.

And a Constitutional Amendment? FUGETABOUDIT.

Chicago1980

(1,968 posts)
9. Yeah, failing to show up IS the problem
Tue May 3, 2022, 04:30 PM
May 2022

3,000,000 no in the states where it would make a difference.

Democrats have to overachieve at the polls to counter the bullshit obstacles republicans have put in place.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,415 posts)
16. "Democrats have to overachieve at the polls"
Tue May 3, 2022, 04:45 PM
May 2022

Why is that acceptable?

That's my point. Why is it considered normal that we have to "win" by 70% in order to pull off a squeaker?

3 million votes should have put Clinton in office, no matter where in the US those people live. Furthermore, Biden's 7+million vote win was almost overturned by a similar margin. About 100k votes the other way in certain states and we'd be in the second term of a bloated orange anus who lost even BIGGER the second time.

That is not acceptable, and Democrats should have made it a top priority. Since they didn't, they may never regain control next time they lose it.

Kaleva

(36,246 posts)
19. Just need a plurality. Not 70%
Tue May 3, 2022, 04:57 PM
May 2022

Hillary lost Michigan by about 10k votes. She lost Wisconsin by about 20k votes. She lost PA by a little over 45k votes.

Had 80k people who voted for Obama in those 3 states but didn't vote in 2016 actually showed up to vote for Hillary, history would have changed.

calimary

(81,098 posts)
24. THIS.
Tue May 3, 2022, 05:07 PM
May 2022

Few people on our side think strategically, at least from what I’ve observed. No longterm thinking and/or strategizing. They always appoint somebody to head the DNC to raise money.

But just raising money ISN’T enough! We’ve raised fucking fortunes, and WHAT have we gotten in return for that investment? Nothing but stalemates, and that’s on a good day.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,415 posts)
32. And that's why the voting laws really mattered
Sun May 8, 2022, 10:13 AM
May 2022

It was probably the single-most important thing to get passed. If we can't vote and take the offices we win, this country's democracy is over. Thanks to two "Democratic" Senators, we can do nothing about the system that republicons are exploiting to steal elections we win.

The majority of the public votes D, and wants liberal democratic policies. But if certain Democrats we elect work with the republicons to thwart us, we'll still end up with fascist rule.

TheRealNorth

(9,462 posts)
5. Well, have we done anything to remedy waiting hours to vote??
Tue May 3, 2022, 02:50 PM
May 2022

How many times do you expect the poor and POC to wait for hours and hours to vote? It's not like we were not aware of this issue after 2000.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,415 posts)
6. No shit. Or the problem with unverifiable easily-hacked voting machines.
Tue May 3, 2022, 03:02 PM
May 2022

They've been trying things out since the 90's. How much longer before our side does something about it besides scream "OH NO!! This is THE most important election yet!!! We must GOTV!!" Frankly, I'm surprised that still works at all.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
15. James Comey was responsible for that.
Tue May 3, 2022, 04:42 PM
May 2022

He totally destroyed her candidacy. Time and time again, throughout the election, he damaged her as badly as a candidate can be damaged.

leftstreet

(36,097 posts)
11. This is not the time for "vote harder"
Tue May 3, 2022, 04:34 PM
May 2022

People were disgusted enough with the republican agenda (Iraq War etc) to show up and kick GWB and the Republicans to the curb hard.

And here we are today with an even larger military budget

5 decades have seen Democrats with majorities at various times. Making Americans feel like today is all their fault is a losing strategy

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
13. Only if
Tue May 3, 2022, 04:39 PM
May 2022

We do away with the filibuster. We’re unlikely to get 60 Senate seats. Of course, if we have 52, we might be able to get rid of the filibuster. A solution, but not a simple one.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,415 posts)
17. Even if we do get 60
Tue May 3, 2022, 04:54 PM
May 2022

there will be a Manchin to fuck it up.

Obama had 60 for about two months after republicons finally seated Al Franken, before Ted Kennedy died. Joe Liebermann was the main Manchin then. Obamacare was damaged by him and others who always objected to something.

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
14. SC has the power to overturn a federal law as they see fit
Tue May 3, 2022, 04:41 PM
May 2022

overturning Roe v Wade is not an ultimate goal, it’s a step towards declaring abortion itself as unconstitutional.

Escurumbele

(3,376 posts)
26. "expand the supreme court"...YES, that should have already been done.
Tue May 3, 2022, 05:19 PM
May 2022

Forget about "there is no precedence" do you really think that if republicans had to do it that lack of precedence would stop them?

JUST DO IT!

eallen

(2,953 posts)
20. I suspect the current court would overturn most attempts at codifying Roe
Tue May 3, 2022, 04:58 PM
May 2022

It's easy to assume that federal law could restore the status quo ante.

I'm skeptical that is the case.


Escurumbele

(3,376 posts)
25. Your blog started very well, until the last negative line.
Tue May 3, 2022, 05:18 PM
May 2022

Why be negative? Lets push people to vote instead...I mean, if your last line is true then why bother, I won't vote, we have lost already?

Sorry but, I really don't get the negativity, it is a defeatist attitude, it is sad that is so prevalent with Democrats, and don't tell me "well, republicans always get away with murder"...Yes they do, because they hear that negativity so they say "OK, Democrats expect us to do this and they also expect us to get away with it...good, lets do it!"

NewHendoLib

(60,006 posts)
27. We don't have an equivalent to faux TV and hate radio.
Tue May 3, 2022, 05:27 PM
May 2022

It is a very uphill battle for liberals/Democrats

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,307 posts)
33. People do get off their asses. 2020 was a record year. "Vote harder" at this point has diminishing
Sun May 8, 2022, 10:20 AM
May 2022

returns for the effort people put into it.

Amishman

(5,554 posts)
34. You assume we have a large numerical advantage to be used
Sun May 8, 2022, 10:58 AM
May 2022

I don't think that's the case.

A third of the country is politically disengaged and never votes.

Those who do vote are almost evenly split between us, indies, and Pubs. We might have a tiny numeric advantage over the Pubs, the impact of this is more than offset by our inherent geographic disadvantage of being heavily concentrated in city centers.

The way we win is by focusing on the top issues for the overall electorate. Polls show this is economic and labor issues, not abortion. Focus on the people's top priorities to get elected, and deliver on them to stay there. While we're at it, try to do what we can on issues like this, but it cannot be the focus if we want to stay in power.

One more Democratic party member turning out has half the impact of flipping one indie voter from Pub to us. Turning out our side matters, but grabbing swing voters does more. This is how we had record turnout in 2020, yet lost House seats. If it wasn't for a favorable map and the Pubs lunatic fringe costing them the GA runoffs, we'd have had problems with the Senate as well.

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