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Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
Sat May 21, 2022, 07:54 PM May 2022

How far are with from taking the vote away from women by constitutional originalists.??

Our Democracy is on the line here folks.. Time for everyone to get out and vote in every single election that comes up.. Take to the ballot!!! lets unseat these lunatics

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How far are with from taking the vote away from women by constitutional originalists.?? (Original Post) Peacetrain May 2022 OP
Probably as far away as we are from a 2A repeal NotTodayPutin May 2022 #1
With the GOP, nothing is off the table. Nothing. Irish_Dem May 2022 #2
Amen to that!!! Peacetrain May 2022 #3
The Supreme Court cannot undo a constitutional amendment. Only a new constitutional amendment PortTack May 2022 #4
Some think that "originalist" means Igel May 2022 #5
Requires a bit of making shit up and cherry-picking when there isn't enough of a historical record In It to Win It May 2022 #10
So was the 15th amendment... First Speaker May 2022 #6
Can't happen, not without consequences, like a strike. nt Ilsa May 2022 #7
Which State Zeitghost May 2022 #8
Even Originalists have to recognize the 19th amendment exist In It to Win It May 2022 #9
 

NotTodayPutin

(86 posts)
1. Probably as far away as we are from a 2A repeal
Sat May 21, 2022, 08:08 PM
May 2022

Since it's a Constitutional Amendment.

But I see your point.

PortTack

(32,751 posts)
4. The Supreme Court cannot undo a constitutional amendment. Only a new constitutional amendment
Sat May 21, 2022, 09:20 PM
May 2022

Can do that

Igel

(35,296 posts)
5. Some think that "originalist" means
Sat May 21, 2022, 10:10 PM
May 2022

"the text when it was first printed."

It doesn't. For any "originalist" that I've seen draw breath or whose writings I've read.

"Originalist" refers to the text of the Constitution, the words with their range of meanings and usage current when the words were made part of the Constitution--not necessarily the original document that established the United States federal government. If the text dates to 1900, then it's what the text meant not in 1792 but when it was put to paper, 1900. < shakes head >

In It to Win It

(8,231 posts)
10. Requires a bit of making shit up and cherry-picking when there isn't enough of a historical record
Sun May 22, 2022, 08:27 AM
May 2022

Anyone can research writings at any given time period but no matter how much you find in historical records and documents, it’s still missing so much context.

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
6. So was the 15th amendment...
Sat May 21, 2022, 11:33 PM
May 2022

...the one that gave black males the vote. How did that work out? Thru the entire Jim Crow era, the 15th amendment was part of the Constitution. Racist Southern legislatures, corrupt Federal judges, and Northern indifference made it a dead letter. I think a similar thing happening with women voters is a very real possibility. At the very least, an increasingly-powerful wing of the GOP *wants* to do this...

Zeitghost

(3,856 posts)
8. Which State
Sat May 21, 2022, 11:52 PM
May 2022

Would pass the law to challenge it? The Supreme Court can't just rule on any law on the books, there has to be a case brought that challenges the standing law.

In It to Win It

(8,231 posts)
9. Even Originalists have to recognize the 19th amendment exist
Sun May 22, 2022, 12:00 AM
May 2022

For the court to actually do anything, someone has to have standing to bring a suit… which I would think that means someone would actively try to take away a woman’s ability to vote to give that woman standing in court.

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