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Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
Fri May 27, 2022, 02:56 PM May 2022

Help, I need info on who allowed assault weapons ban to expire?

My cousin who is trying to see both sides says both parties allowed that to happen, what are the facts?

I am researching but need help.

found this


https://www.npr.org/2019/08/13/750656174/the-u-s-once-had-a-ban-on-assault-weapons-why-did-it-expire


By the time those 10 years had passed, however, the political climate had changed.

Republicans by then had held the House throughout the period and the Senate for all but 18 months. The GOP had just increased its numbers in both chambers in the midterm elections of 2002, a political season dominated by anxiety after the terror attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

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Feinstein and others made numerous efforts to restore the ban that year and over the next several years. When Barack Obama was elected president in 2008 he made renewing the ban part of his agenda. Efforts were mounted again after the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in December 2012, but none bore fruit.

The attempt to reinstate the ban after Sandy Hook attracted 12 fewer votes in the Senate than Feinstein had mustered in an attempt to renew the ban in 2004.
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Help, I need info on who allowed assault weapons ban to expire? (Original Post) Eliot Rosewater May 2022 OP
George W. Bush wryter2000 May 2022 #1
And this shows how warped the average American's understanding of recent history is Eliot Rosewater May 2022 #4
That's what the msm tells them wryter2000 May 2022 #13
It was Shrub and his Repuke Congress. roamer65 May 2022 #9
GWB did not allow it to expire, MarineCombatEngineer May 2022 #15
It happened during W Bush's admin when repubs... brush May 2022 #2
In 2004, both houses were controlled by Republicans SYFROYH May 2022 #3
Probably, which is why I did not push back just now in the convo. Eliot Rosewater May 2022 #5
The sad truth is that enough Democrats Voltaire2 May 2022 #6
The paper Tiger underpants May 2022 #8
Within the same article: dhol82 May 2022 #7
"style himself as a hunter and gun owner"? He was hunting at 10yo blm May 2022 #12
I bet he became a pretty good shooter in Viet Nam. Patterson May 2022 #14
Thanks Eliot Rosewater May 2022 #16
There was wide recognition that the ban was not effective Abnredleg May 2022 #10
From Wiki: gldstwmn May 2022 #11
Where were we in 2010? Polybius May 2022 #17
60 filibuster-proof majority from September 24, 2009 to February 4, 2010. Four months, ten days. betsuni May 2022 #18

wryter2000

(46,036 posts)
1. George W. Bush
Fri May 27, 2022, 02:59 PM
May 2022

You probably know that, but I'll give you a kick. If Congress was in Republican hands then, they would have, too.

Doesn't mean you won't find 1 Dem who went along.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
4. And this shows how warped the average American's understanding of recent history is
Fri May 27, 2022, 03:02 PM
May 2022

He kept repeating it was both parties.

I now see it was not, it was Bush and they controlled everything. I sent him a link to the article.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,363 posts)
15. GWB did not allow it to expire,
Fri May 27, 2022, 04:58 PM
May 2022

he clearly stated that if the Senate sent him a bill extending the AWB, he would sign it into law,
however, there weren't enough votes in the Senate to re-up the bill, so the blame lies with the Senate, not GWB.

SYFROYH

(34,169 posts)
3. In 2004, both houses were controlled by Republicans
Fri May 27, 2022, 03:01 PM
May 2022

But I don't remember a very robust response from Democrats.

and of course Shrub was in the Whitehouse.

Voltaire2

(13,009 posts)
6. The sad truth is that enough Democrats
Fri May 27, 2022, 03:04 PM
May 2022

in the Senate joined the almost unanimous Republican opposition to kill the 2013 bill, and to defeat efforts to renew the 94 bill.

underpants

(182,769 posts)
8. The paper Tiger
Fri May 27, 2022, 03:08 PM
May 2022

They knew it would pass anyway and they were afraid of the NRA. It’s weak sauce but I’m sure that was the thinking.

dhol82

(9,352 posts)
7. Within the same article:
Fri May 27, 2022, 03:07 PM
May 2022
https://www.npr.org/2019/08/13/750656174/the-u-s-once-had-a-ban-on-assault-weapons-why-did-it-expire

In 2004, when the Republican Congress refused to renew the assault weapons ban, the Democrats' presidential nominee was Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, who sought to style himself as a hunter and gun owner but nonetheless supported the ban and its renewal.

blm

(113,043 posts)
12. "style himself as a hunter and gun owner"? He was hunting at 10yo
Fri May 27, 2022, 03:21 PM
May 2022

and was a lifelong hunter….and he was the best marksman in congress back then, even though this article has attempted to mock him as inauthentic. He ALWAYS supported gun control.

Abnredleg

(669 posts)
10. There was wide recognition that the ban was not effective
Fri May 27, 2022, 03:11 PM
May 2022

As it was written based on exterior characteristics such as pistol grips and bayonet lugs, the manufacturers were able to quickly design compliant weapons - the Bushmaster AR-15 used at Sandy Hook was AWB compliant.

New legislation is required but it needs to be carefully crafted.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
11. From Wiki:
Fri May 27, 2022, 03:14 PM
May 2022

The assault weapons ban expired on September 13, 2004. Legislation to renew or replace the ban was proposed numerous times unsuccessfully.

Between May 2003 and June 2008, U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein, D-CA, and Representatives Michael Castle, R-DE, Alcee Hastings, D-FL, and Mark Kirk, R-IL, introduced bills to reauthorize the ban.[52] At the same time, Senator Frank Lautenberg, D-NJ, and Representative Carolyn McCarthy, D-NY, introduced similar bills to create a new ban with a revised definition for assault weapons. None of the bills left committee.[53]

After the November 2008 election, the website of President-elect Barack Obama listed a detailed agenda for the forthcoming administration. The stated positions included "making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent."[54] Three months later, newly sworn-in Attorney General Eric Holder reiterated the Obama administration's desire to reinstate the ban.[55] The mention came in response to a question during a joint press conference with DEA Acting Administrator Michele Leonhart, discussing efforts to crack down on Mexican drug cartels. Attorney General Holder said that "there are just a few gun-related changes that we would like to make, and among them would be to reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons."[56]

Efforts to pass a new federal assault weapons ban were made in December 2012 after the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, in Newtown, Connecticut.[57][58][59] On January 24, 2013, Senator Feinstein introduced S. 150, the Assault Weapons Ban of 2013 (AWB 2013).[60] The bill was similar to the 1994 ban, but differed in that it would not expire after 10 years,[59] and it used a one-feature test for a firearm to qualify as an assault weapon rather than the two-feature test of the defunct ban.[61] The GOP Congressional delegation from Texas and the NRA condemned Feinstein's bill.[62] On March 14, 2013, the Senate Judiciary Committee approved a version of the bill along party lines.[63] On April 17, 2013, AWB 2013 failed on a Senate vote of 40 to 60.[64]

On March 23, 2021, President Joe Biden proposed a new ban on assault weapons after the 2021 Atlanta spa shootings and 2021 Boulder shooting both occurred in the previous week.[65]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban#:~:text=The%2010%2Dyear%20ban%20was,accordance%20with%20its%20sunset%20provision.

Polybius

(15,381 posts)
17. Where were we in 2010?
Fri May 27, 2022, 10:27 PM
May 2022

We had 60 Senate seats, and controlled the House and Presidency. I'm sorry, but we don't get a pass either.

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