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Demovictory9

(32,448 posts)
Sat May 28, 2022, 05:42 PM May 2022

Housekeepers struggle as US hotels ditch daily room cleaning

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Housekeepers-struggle-as-US-hotels-ditch-daily-17199766.

HONOLULU (AP) — After guests checked out of a corner room at the Hilton Hawaiian Village resort on Waikiki beach, housekeeper Luz Espejo collected enough trash, some strewn under beds, to stuff seven large garbage bags

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Like many other hotels across the United States, the Hilton Hawaiian Village has done away with daily housekeeping service, making what was already one of the toughest jobs in the hospitality industry even more grueling.

Industry insiders say the move away from daily cleaning, which gained traction during the pandemic, is driven by customer preferences. But others say it has more to do with profit and has allowed hotels to cut the number of housekeepers at a time when many of the mostly immigrant women who take those jobs are still reeling from lost work during coronavirus shutdowns.

Many housekeepers still employed say their hours have been cut and they are being asked to do far more work in that time.

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Before the pandemic there were 670 housekeepers working at Espejo’s resort. More than two years later, 150 of them haven’t been hired back or are on-call status, spending each day from 5:30 a.m. to 10 a.m. waiting for a phone call saying there’s work for them. The number not hired back or on call stood at 300 just a few weeks ago.

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Ben McLeod, of Bend, Oregon, and his family didn’t request housekeeping during a four-night stay at the Westin Hapuna Beach Resort on Hawaii’s Big Island in March.

“My wife and I just have never really understood why there would be daily housekeeping ... when that’s not the case at home and it’s wasteful,” he said.

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Unionized hotel workers are trying get the message out that turning down daily room cleaning is hurting housekeepers and threatening jobs.


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dsc

(52,155 posts)
1. I never really thought of it that way.
Sat May 28, 2022, 05:44 PM
May 2022

I don't often stay in hotels and even less often do I do so for more than one night, but I will keep this in mind.

jimfields33

(15,769 posts)
5. I definitely don't request daily but do request daily towels.
Sat May 28, 2022, 06:04 PM
May 2022

I always thought it was a positive that I do this. Maybe not.

spooky3

(34,438 posts)
2. Good to know. I don't travel much right now. Could more of the housekeepers
Sat May 28, 2022, 05:49 PM
May 2022

Unionize? Can they work in private homes instead? Where I live there is huge demand for good home housekeepers because there are so many dual career/job couples.

sdfernando

(4,930 posts)
3. Please always tip the housekeeping staff
Sat May 28, 2022, 05:53 PM
May 2022

At least do it when you leave. Leave a note with some cash thanking them for their work.

Demovictory9

(32,448 posts)
6. i leave the tip under the soap dish or pillow because of prior experience
Sat May 28, 2022, 07:55 PM
May 2022

decades ago, the guys who cleared the room of extra fold out beds, would grab the tips. Don't know if it's still true or widespread


I leave the tip where only the person cleaning the room would find it ... folded under remote too. don't know if I'm too paranoid.


Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
9. What is the proper amount?
Sat May 28, 2022, 09:16 PM
May 2022

And would you adjust that upward if you hadn’t had daily cleaning?

I don’t usually get daily cleaning, but always tip with a note. I clean the room myself, so that housekeeping doesn’t think I’m a pig.

I was just wondering, because it seems like the room rates aren’t up all that much, should it be some kind of percentage? Before COVID, I would generally tip about $5 per night. Somehow, that doesn’t seem like enough anymore.

Appreciate your advice.

sdfernando

(4,930 posts)
10. Any amount is better than nothing.
Sat May 28, 2022, 09:21 PM
May 2022

I usually leave a 20…if my stay is longer than a few days I will increase it.

FakeNoose

(32,630 posts)
4. I'm not and never have been a hotel worker but ...
Sat May 28, 2022, 06:03 PM
May 2022

... I have stayed in hotels many times in my life. I kind of get how it works. Check out time is usually something like 11 a.m. and that's when the rooms are free to be cleaned and made ready for the next incoming guests.

So the employees have approximately 3 hours to get a large portion of the hotel ready. If the room isn't too bad, they just change the sheets, put in fresh towels, wipe down the toilet, tub and sink, run the vacuum, and the room is ready. But when the guest hasn't had anything cleaned in several days they and go out leaving the room trashed, those rooms cannot be ready in a short time. That's not the workers' fault, but they're being penalized for it.

Now there are hotel requirements for disinfecting rooms and bathrooms that they never had to do before Covid, in addition to the normal cleaning and straightening up. Hotels need to hire more employees, and cross-train them to do other jobs so they can keep busy for the full shift, after the rooms have been power-cleaned.

Demovictory9

(32,448 posts)
7. but many guests check out 5am, 6am, etc. I've seen the housekeeper eyeing my room as a I leave
Sat May 28, 2022, 08:00 PM
May 2022

at 9am. Most rooms are accessible before 11am.


I did the job the summer before college. I recall jumping on rooms as guests checked out well before 11am.

Still it's a hard job.

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
8. Back before I retired when I used to travel quite a bit for work
Sat May 28, 2022, 09:00 PM
May 2022

I remember when the transition started happening, which at the time was done by certain (often "boutique" ) hotels in order to "reduce the environmental impact" (i.e., reduce daily hot water use) by not having sheets cleaned daily when having a single occupant or occupants in a room during a stay. And that began to morph into adding the option to re-use towels, and then there was the shift to soap/shampoo "dispensers" vs individual cakes/bottles, etc. But the housekeeper still came to the room to make the bed, vacuum, empty the trash, replace any "used" towels, re-stock cups for the ice bucket if necessary, etc.

But I can see how they would do that sudden "cost-savings" thing with laying off/not hiring staff during/after the pandemic and it was the perfect time to give them an excuse. It had pretty much already started happening before this with the elimination of the "porter" / "bell hop", where you basically had to get your luggage up to your room yourself.

LisaM

(27,801 posts)
11. Housekeeping at hotels is one of my favorite amenities.
Sat May 28, 2022, 09:24 PM
May 2022

I don't mind if they change the sheets every day - and I don't junk hotel rooms or leave much trash - but I do like when they make the beds, leave clean glasses, put in fresh towels (I never use the quota), etc. And I always leave a tip.

But, just one more way to take the leisure out of travel. Sigh.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
12. Even before the pandemic I never requested daily housekeeping.
Sat May 28, 2022, 09:37 PM
May 2022

I keep my room clean, and it’s wasteful to change linens and towels daily. Despite that, I always leave a hefty tip even on a two night stay.

But yes, I think hotels have taken advantage of this. I travel frequently and have noticed how many amenities they don’t offer because of “Covid”.

It’s bullshit, and I’m sure the housekeepers are suffering because of it.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,429 posts)
13. I used to let them do the room daily
Sat May 28, 2022, 09:45 PM
May 2022

and I would always save the extra shampoo etc.

Since covid, I really don't want anyone in my room if I'm staying more than one night. I use the same towel at home more than once, I don't need a new one every day when I travel. I always leave the room clean and have any garbage put in one trash can. When I leave, if I see housekeeper in the hall I let them know that they can get in my room early

I tip well in restaurants, and have started at hotels. I might do as suggested above and put it under something only the housecleaner will find.

But I am reminded of this story from 2009
https://www.breakingtravelnews.com/focus/article/boston-up-in-arms-over-hyatt-housekeeping-firings/

Hyatt fired the entire housekeeping staff at a Boston location, including many with 20+ years tenure. They were paid $30k, and were replaced by new people paid half that. Room pricing hasn't gone down, and now travelers are expected to help pay their labor costs as well.

I hate corporations, along with their allies and paid shills.

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