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Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
Sat May 28, 2022, 05:58 PM May 2022

New York State Attorney General case against Trump

New York State Attorney General case against trump about taxes etc. is a civil case only, he will not go to jail no matter what happens in that case is that correct?

The case that would’ve put him in jail is the one Manhattan Attorney General Bragg dropped or some people think he may have dropped is that correct?

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brooklynite

(94,373 posts)
1. Statement by Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg on Ongoing Investigation Concerning The Trump Organization
Sat May 28, 2022, 06:14 PM
May 2022
In recent weeks, the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office has been repeatedly asked whether our investigation concerning former President Donald J. Trump, the Trump Organization, and its leadership is continuing.

It is.

There have also been questions about the timing of the grand jury. As anyone who has worked on criminal cases in New York knows, New York County has grand juries sitting all the time.

There is no magic at all to any previously reported dates.

The team working on this investigation is comprised of dedicated, experienced career prosecutors. They are going through documents, interviewing witnesses, and exploring evidence not previously explored. In the long and proud tradition of white-collar prosecutions at the Manhattan D.A.’s Office, we are investigating thoroughly and following the facts without fear or favor.

The team is led by Susan Hoffinger, Chief of the Investigation Division. Susan has decades of experience as an Assistant District Attorney and a defense attorney, including New York State grand jury and trial experience, which are crucial for this investigation.

High-profile, complex investigations have been trademarks of my professional career.

As a state prosecutor and a federal prosecutor in the Southern District of New York, I successfully brought cases involving money laundering, witness tampering, mortgage fraud, official misconduct, and bribery. And, I went wherever the facts took me, prosecuting two mayors, a city council member, an FBI agent, a former Senate Majority Leader, a District Attorney, and business executives.

Indeed, litigation involving the former president himself is not foreign to me. As the Chief Deputy at the New York State Attorney General’s Office, I oversaw the successful litigation against the former president, his family, and the Trump Foundation.

These experiences shape my approach and the investigative steps that the team is hard at work on. Prosecutors fulfilling their duties cannot and do not bring only cases that are “slam dunks.” To the contrary, every case must be brought for the right reason – namely that justice demands it. That’s what I’ve done throughout my career, regardless of how easy or tough a case might be.

I understand the public desire to know more about our investigative steps. But, the law requires secrecy during an investigation. It is a felony in New York for a prosecutor to disclose grand jury matters. And for good reason.

Doing so can create problems for cases and investigations, the individuals involved, and the criminal justice system. It can affect witness testimony or even lead to witness tampering. Unauthorized public disclosures also potentially can affect a defendant’s right to a fair trial.

While the law constrains me from commenting further at this time, I pledge that the Office will publicly state the conclusion of our investigation – whether we conclude our work without bringing charges, or move forward with an indictment.

In the meantime, we will not be discussing our investigative steps. Nor will we be discussing grand jury matters.

In short, as we have previously said, the investigation continues.

https://www.manhattanda.org/statement-by-manhattan-district-attorney-alvin-bragg-on-ongoing-investigation-concerning-the-trump-organization/

Novara

(5,822 posts)
2. Right. It is a civil case but could lead to a criminal case
Sat May 28, 2022, 06:17 PM
May 2022

I don't trust Bragg's office at all. I'll believe he's pursuing criminal charges when I see an indictment. And I'm not holding my breath.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
4. I was confirming for a conversation with my friend who thinks the Letitia James case
Sat May 28, 2022, 08:27 PM
May 2022

could involve jail for traitor trump, but if it is a civil case it would not.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,554 posts)
5. You are correct, however...
Sat May 28, 2022, 09:20 PM
May 2022

Trump, Jr and Princess Complicity have all been ordered to testify in the civil case, and they are likely to take the fifth in order to avoid implicating themselves in criminal charges. The double bind is, taking the fifth in a civil trial can be used to determine guilt by the jury.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
6. I believe traitor trump will never go to jail, but I want to believe there is at least a
Sun May 29, 2022, 01:44 PM
May 2022

chance one of the criminal kids will or administration officials like Barr or GOP pol's who helped orchestrate the insurrection.

None of that will happen before November, however. November is everything, there is no democratic election in 2024 if what I fear happens does happen this November.

So we need to be talking about the obvious reality that red states are not going to certify some or all of the elections they lose. We at least need to prepare for that.

What we need during the hearings is someone bringing attention to them, someone (democratic politician) on MSM who does/says something so out of character that it is on every YouTube channel and tv channel.

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