what should happen to Robb Elementary?

[Demovictory9]

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2022/05/29/feds-considering-razing-rebuilding-robb-elementary-school-state-sen-roland-gutierrez-says/

First mass murder in my memory (1974 San Ysidro), the building was razed and a memorial built. It seems less likely that buildings are razed these days. As I recall, Virginia Tech (32 dead) opted to keep all their buildings.



It sits out front along San Ysidro Boulevard with 21 white marble hexagonal pillars measuring from 1 to 6 feet tall.

But almost 40 years later, most people ignore it as or are simply unaware of what it represents they walk past it.

“I never heard of it,” said Jose Fernandez when asked if he knew what the memorial was about.



https://wreg.com/news/21-dead-in-84-mcdonalds-massacre-a-distant-memory-for-border-community/

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	Raze it and build another in the same spot
	0 (0%)
	Raze it, build another in another location
	7 (44%)
	Raze it, put a memorial in that spot
	1 (6%)
	Reopen existing buildings in the fall, with memorial on campus
	4 (25%)
	Reopen existing buildings, no memorial on campus
	0 (0%)
	Other
	4 (25%)
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[Irish_Dem]

1. Turn it into a police training center.

Pictures of the slaughtered children in the halls and classrooms.

[KarenS]

2. I think it should be decided by the folks in Uvalde. n/t

[Talitha]

8. My thoughts, also.

[area51]

18. This. n/t

[bucolic_frolic]

3. How does a working class district pay for razing it?

They razed Newtown, but I don't know who paid for it. Can society afford to rebuild every mass murder scene? I say go with substantive renovations and build a memorial. You can't erase history by destroying physical things.

[Igel]

10. Uvalde County Unified School District is the controlling authority there.

It's also not an elementary school like those in most states I've lived in--including north of Houston. It's not *a* building but a series of perhaps 8 or 9 freestanding buildings connected by sidewalks, usually covered, plus an admin/cafeteria building. This is just from Google maps satellite view). I'm guessing 6 of them are by grade and there's also an athletics building and storage building.

I'm used to an elementary school being a single building with all the grades, cafeteria, admin, etc., under one roof. This is more like some schools I've seen in Arizona.

You could tear down any one building without affecting the others. The affected " target="_blank">building had 16 numbered rooms, plus restrooms. You could tear down one building, put up a building on a different bit of the property, extend the sidewalk, and leave the former site empty.

[Demovictory9]

4. examples of other mass shooting memorials

https://www.elpasotimes.com/story/news/2019/10/31/how-other-cities-mass-gun-shootings-have-honored-victims-memorials/4102528002/

Columbine Memorial
The Columbine Memorial was built as a place to honor the victims but also as a place for contemplation and healing. The interior of the memorial is an oval stone outer wall, known as the Wall of Healing which is softened by a grove of trees in the center and native plants around the edges.


Virginia Tech Memorial
The Virginia Tech Memorial consists of 32 limestone square stones, each engraved with a victim's name, arranged in a semi circle. The memorial was inspired by the actions of students hours after the shooting. They had assembled Hokie Stones, limestone native to the region, for each of the victims in the half circle.


Aurora Theater memorial
The Aurora Theater victims are remembered by a sculpture piece, Ascentiate, that features 83 large metal birds at the Aurora City garden in Colorado. The memorial pays tribute to 13 people who were killed and 70 who were injured in a mass shooting on July 20, 2012, at a midnight screening of "The Dark Knight Rises."



Marjory Stoneman Douglas High Memorial
An Asian-style wooden temple with a spire, called the Temple of Time, was built as a memorial for victims of a Florida high school mass shooting. Friends and loved ones left notes, photos and mementos inside the temple on an empty lot about 10 minutes from the school in Coral Springs, Florida.


Mandalay Bay village
MGM Resorts International announced in September that a community center and parking lot will be built on a five-acre plot where 58 people were killed on Oct. 1, 2017.

[rgbecker]

5. Continue to use it. Close rooms 111 and 112, leave those uncleaned.

Let the students look through the door windows to see the carnage and remember the poor kids and how they died.

Un-protected by their Republican government.

[mucifer]

7. I think that will be traumatic for those who

Survived. But I’m not an expert

[GoCubsGo]

6. Raze, rebuild paid for by the gun manufacturers and GOP.

They did this. Make them pay for it. They can also pay for any memorials that get built. They razed and rebuilt Sandy Hook Elementary, but they rebuilt on the same property, but not the same footprint. I suspect that will be repeated here.

I remember the San Ysidro massacre. I had totally forgotten about it until you brought it up.

[AndyS]

9. Renovate it into a convention center

complete with memorials and audio visual stories of the victims. Reserve it strictly for the annual NRA convention and any other gun group and gun shows.

[bottomofthehill]

11. How do you ask any child who was there last week to ever set foot inside

Ever again. Raze the building…..

I am a grown man who is not particularly emotional, went through a workplace attack no where near as traumatic as what the children went through and had a difficult time going back to work the next day. Many of my co workers have left for other employment opportunities. Again, these are grown men and women who left. Those children will never feel safe in that building again. To send them back to it is cruel and inhuman. Bring in the wrecking ball, run a bulldozer through it remove every piece and part of it.

[gopiscrap]

13. totally agree

[NutmegYankee]

12. I'm thankful Virginia Tech did not raze Norris Hall

It was part of a distinct architecture on the campus and was a key building for engineering. I had many classes as an engineering student in that building. I sat in those very desks and classrooms just a mere few years before the carnage. My Dynamics professor was one of the fallen, having sacrificed his life to give his students time to escape via the windows.

The University renovated it to house offices and lab space for research.

[Demovictory9]

14. Razing buildings is pricey

[IcyPeas]

15. I don't know.

I remember when the world trade centers came down.... a lot of tv shows (e.g., the Sopranos) edited the buildings out of the opening of the show, like they never existed. I thought they should've been left in and remembered. But I also understand why people didn't want to be reminded... so...

I have mixed feelings. I just don't know.

[BannonsLiver]

16. 100 percent a community decision, as it should be.

[pinkstarburst]

17. Who comes up with the money

and where do the students attend school for the 2 years it takes to build the new campus?

I don't think there is a good solution in this instance, by the way. Just pointing out that it isn't so simple as raze it to the ground and be done with it.

[Demovictory9]

19. Biden is offering the money to demolish and rebuild