Millions in Southwest bracing for 'dangerous and deadly heatwave'

[marmar]

While temperature records this spring have already fallen across much of the country, a potentially deadly heat wave will take aim at the southwestern U.S. over the coming days, the National Weather Service is warning.

The latest heat wave will affect California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico and Colorado over the next 24 hours before pushing east into Texas and states in the Central Plains.

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Triple-digit temperatures are forecast across several states. Las Vegas is expected to hit 111 degrees F on Friday and Saturday. Highs in Phoenix will be even hotter, hitting 113 on Saturday and Sunday, and 114 on Monday. Austin, Texas, could reach 107 over the weekend and Dallas could hit 105 on Sunday.

In all, an estimated 22 million people are expected to be affected by the high temperatures over the next few days. On its website, the National Weather Service is advising residents of Phoenix to “avoid strenuous activity” and to “postpone/cancel outdoor activities” over the coming days. ..............(more)

https://news.yahoo.com/millions-in-southwest-bracing-for-dangerous-and-deadly-heatwave-204130944.html

[dalton99a]

1. And it's not even summer

[Jerry2144]

3. it isn't

But the heat normally starts around Memorial day. I am up in the heights 100 feet higher than the strip and Reid airport. It's only supposed to hit 103 here today and 106 tomorrow. Dew point is only 33 degrees. So as long as people stay out of the direct sun and drink tons of water, it can be survived.

[Johnny2X2X]

2. Saw 116 on one forecast for Phoenix

Extreme weather events are more and more frequent.

Global climate change is unpredictable, it will change things in ways we can't anticipate. These temps are insane, could the entire Southwest be turning into Death Valley?

Phoenix has hit 122 before. But 112+ for several days is just brutal. This type of heat makes living normally difficult. It melts parts on cars, it damages housing, it taxes A/C units which must keep working to sustain life.

[roamer65]

14. Short answer.

Yes.

Just wait until it starts reaching 130 deg F in about 10 or so years.

[anarch]

24. a great opportunity for the enterprising capitalist to sell some "Outside Suits"

just think of it: everyone will need a fucking space-suit just to go walk around in their tiny scorched dirt-patch; someone should be able to make a fortune off of it.

[electric_blue68]

46. A/C'd Outside suits, of course.

[wackadoo wabbit]

43. We'll be lucky if we get 10 years before then /nt

[roamer65]

48. Trying to be an optimist.

[asiliveandbreathe]

4. At 710 AM .already 87 degrees NE Mesa AZ..Alert,,

EXCESSIVE HEAT WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 8 PM MST SUNDAY
What
Dangerously hot conditions. Afternoon temperatures 109 to 115.
Where
Portions of south central Arizona.
When
Until 8 PM MST Sunday.
Impacts

Very High Heat Risk. Increase in heat related illnesses, including heat cramps, heat exhaustion, and heat stroke. Heat stroke can lead to death.

Tips - stay hydrated folks..never go out without your water..always carry cooler in car for long drives..

[Liberal In Texas]

5. 103 Here tomorow.

And Abbott hasn't done diddly to fix the grid.
This could be interesting. And maybe miserable.

[doc03]

6. There is a concern I have about electric vehicles. If the power grid can't handle

the load today what happens when we all have electric vehicles?

[oioioi]

8. Simple... we'll just go to Mars

according to the great genius

[dalton99a]

9. NEXT: Tesla to announce 'revolutionary' generator for emergency use during power outage

Prices start at $14,990

[Johnny2X2X]

15. EVs charge off peak hours mostly

People charge their EVs overnight in their garages. The taxing of the grid by EVs is not significant yet, and it doesn't ever have to be if we do it right.

[doc03]

17. Sorry I don't buy that, they can be charged off peak

but I still don't think we have the capacity at this time. It's obvious we don't during peak hours already.

[Johnny2X2X]

18. Why do people think EVs pull a ton of amps?

This is 30 amps we’re taking about on a house that’s already pulling 100-400 amps depending. EVs aren’t going to be a big stress on the infrastructure we already have in place. And they’re being charged at home at night the vast majority of the time, during non peak hours when electricity is cheaper. And with the capacity batteries have now many owners won’t even charge it but every several days.

[doc03]

19. My house is wired for 200 amps, at this time I am

using maybe 5 amps at most. Charging an electric vehicle would be like everyone running an electric clothes dryer. I worked at a electric arc steel furnace, many times during hot or cold daytime temperatures we were forced to shut down because the grid couldn't handle the load.

[Johnny2X2X]

21. Average house uses 900 KWh a month.

Average EV probably needs 250-300 KWhs a month. So we’re talking about a 30% increase for a tiny fraction of households in America. And almost all of that increase will be at night.

As we own more EVs the grid will need to be improved, but it’s going to be gradual over time.

[doc03]

22. I can agree with today but as you say the grid

will have to be improved if everyone gets an EV.

[Johnny2X2X]

23. But that's years and year away

And even if we went to 80% EVs in one year, charging at night would still help the grid tremendously. You can program your cars to only charge off peak hours to save money already.

I get it, it’s a new technology, but EVs are some crazy energy hogs. They’re pretty efficient and it’s not like your doubling your electric bill to drive them.

[OilemFirchen]

38. "Average" house where?

Southern states use, on average, about 40% more electricity than the Midwest - the next highest consumer. And it's worse for single-family homes, where the average for Southern states is about 50% higher than the Midwest.

According to the EIA:

In 2020, the average annual electricity consumption for a U.S. residential utility customer was 10,715 kilowatthours (kWh), an average of about 893 kWh per month. Louisiana had the highest annual electricity consumption at 14,407 kWh per residential customer, and Hawaii had the lowest at 6,446 kWh per residential customer.

[Kaleva]

34. A/C may be a bigger problem

The greater the temp differential (the difference between outside and inside temperatures), the greater the heat transfer rate and thus the need for greater capacity to overcome the increase in the heat transfer rate.

That is what may overwhelm the power grid

[LeftInTX]

54. Gas pumps require the grid also!

[CrackityJones75]

7. Why people live there I have no idea.

It is bullshit that large numbers of people live there. It is a fucking desert! But sure lets pump water to there because it makes a whole fuck ton of sense.

[doc03]

10. They say it's a dry heat. I experienced it once when I was in Phoenix at 106

degrees, it was f---g hot like putting your head in an oven.

[former9thward]

25. People live here because they don't want to lives their lives in the miserable weather of the NE.

And most of the Midwest. Why people think people just stand outside in the heat during the middle of the day I will never know. They live in air conditioned homes, travel in a/c cars, work and shop in a/c workplaces and stores, and enjoy themselves in a/c bars and restaurants. During the warm months it is very nice outside in the morning and after the sun sets.

[ReluctanceTango]

35. Miserable to who?

Because I’ve lived North and South and I’ll take cold anytime over hot. Cold, you can bundle up. You can have heat even without electricity if you have a wood stove—and you can even cook on it, if need be. You don’t have to worry about what happens to most of your perishable food, either. Most if it will be fine by either putting it in an unheated room, or even outside to stay cold.

When it’s 100+ for months, you can take off only so many clothes, and you need electricity for AC. Fans? Please. Those do nothing but blow the hot around. Either way, if you lose power, you are screwed. Your food goes bad fast without electricity in 105 degrees. You cannot get cool here without electricity. And if you want to talk miserable, then imagine 105 without AC, for however long your power goes out. It’s hell on Earth.

Give me a Northern blizzard, anytime.

[former9thward]

36. Yes, you need electricity for A/C.

Guess what? We have a/c in AZ. That invention has been around for years. I have never had any electric blackout of more than a few minutes and those are rare. That is a nice thing when you get your electric from nuclear. Most of your post sounds like people are living outside braving the elements. Maybe you do. I don't.

[ripcord]

42. Kind of funny people in the NE getting on their high horse

Considering the amount of heating oil and natural gas they use during the winter.

[doc03]

37. What is the difference we don't just stand outside in the miserable weather.

We live in heated homes, cars, work and shop in heated workplaces and stores and enjoy ourselves in
heated bars and restaurants. I love the weather in Florida in the winter but there is no way I could live there
in summer with the humidity.

[former9thward]

57. I have lived in Chicago.

But the difference is that it is a headache getting around in the snow and blizzards. And just being outside in below zero windchill. But to each their own.

[electric_blue68]

47. We've have over 100F (usually not over ?103but it has gone higher) here in NYC at times.. NOT fun!

Sometimes with more humidity (uggggh), sometimes drier for our area.
30%-35% Humidity in the Summer in NYC area IS dry!

However 30% in the high desert of AZ is humid-ish, or humid.
I know- I was visiting when a local commented on the 30% humidity at the store we stopped in
.
Me and my NYC'r friend who'd stopped in for water, fresh peaches, other stuff felt wonderful!

[in2herbs]

12. We live here because a lot of people don't want to live here! I don't have grass, pasture or a

drip system. In fact, I just redid my property, ripped out all the vegetation and put down rocks. In the event of another fire the rocks will have to burn before the house.

The desert doesn't mean "no water." There are natural waterfalls, lakes, ponds, etc., which has sustained animals and vegetation since forever.

Get rid of golf courses, grass and the wasteful automatically serving of water in restaurants which most people don't drink.

[CrackityJones75]

13. I am sorry but that just isn't true on the macro level.

Too many people live there. It isn’t sustainable to have large cities there. A few people living there sure. But we are pumping water there. That is about as stupid as CAFO operations for food. Its essentially the same thing.

[former9thward]

26. It is sustainable to have large cities here.

We are here and nothing is disappearing. But happy you think the way you do because that means you will not move here and add to our "unsustainable burden".

[CrackityJones75]

39. You are getting water from other areas.

It is NOT sustainable. It is absolutely ridiculous to drain water from other areas of the country and truck or pipe it down there. That is madness.

[former9thward]

58. Not true.

No one is "draining water" from "other places" or trucking it to supply cities. Simply not true. These "unsustainable" predictions never come true. And of course they are always "10 years from now". They have been made for decades now.

[NickB79]

61. No one is trucking in water to cities?

Whoopsie!

https://www.12news.com/article/news/local/water-wars/rio-verde-foothills-water-rural-arizona-law-valley/75-6ae2ef4d-7cd1-4a93-babb-9eea7a0634a6

Hundreds of homes in Rio Verde Foothills are about to lose water; they won't be the last
Rio Verde Foothills residents are learning water isn't a guarantee in the desert, and realtors, developers, county officials are pointing fingers at each other.

[former9thward]

62. The "Rio Verde Foothills" is not a city.

Don't move the goalposts. What is described in the article is a small rural community with as described in the article "administrative issues".

[CrackityJones75]

63. Right!

They have been trying to do this for decades. Because… Wait for it…. They need the water there to support the growing populations.

[ripcord]

40. It is time to scrap Los Angeles

They honestly believe the rest of the state should give up their water so they will have enough. After raping the Owen's valley and causing a huge man made ecological disaster who know how far they will go for more water.

[ReluctanceTango]

33. Used to, it was cheap in AZ

Plus, some old people can’t stand the cold after a while. Hot to us is nice to them, especially that dry heat on arthritic bones.

I’m in the camp that I don’t care about dry vs humid, 106 is too dang hot. But that’s me. Ever since I lived in the Dakotas and had hyperthyroid, I can’t stand anything over 90.

Why I’m looking at moving to the North when my mom dies. I can’t take these 5 months of Texas summers anymore.

[TxGuitar]

11. We are well into summer in Houston

It is going to be a long, hot summer.

[Sympthsical]

16. Going to be 103 here today

North Bay Area. And if it says 103, that means it'll be closer to 106 or so. Just walked home from the gym, and it was already getting uncomfortable at 8AM.

However, new solar panels mean Operation Igloo shall commence shortly. If all goes according to plan, I will be working in a dark room wearing a sweater.

Just summer things.

[panader0]

20. 104 here now at 1:17 pm at 4650 feet elevation. (SE Az)

We've had more 100 plus days so far this year than we usually have all year, and, as a poster said
above, it's not even summer yet.

[DFW]

29. 104 F is exactly 40 C

In Madrid this afternoon, it was 37°

I'm now in Barcelona, which is tempered by the Mediterranean, but even here at 6 PM it was close to 90° F

Tomorrow evening, I have to fly back to Germany, though my usually 7:45 PM direct flight to Düsseldorf doesn't run on the weekends, so I have to fly to %%$(%&$ Frankfurt, and get a train from there back to Düsseldorf, so I don't get home until about 10 PM.

It should have cooled down a little by then. I'll probably be too much of a wreck to notice, though. I am DEFINITELY taking Sunday off! Enough is enough.

[ReluctanceTango]

27. Bracing for?

Here in Texas, we’ve already been over 100 for the past week, save for yesterday when it was a “cool” 99. We’re not expecting a break for a while. Sure, the future forecasts show some 90s heading our way, but those will probably change. When the weather gets on a 100+ kick here, it doesn’t cool off much if at all until September or October. Once the ground gets overheated, it stays overheated.

This is nothing. 1999-2000 and 2009-2010 were just as bad, and 2009 might have been worse. I distinctly remember going to work at 6:30p.m. and it was 95 degrees.

In April.

And it only got hotter from there.

There’s a reason we have a saying here that Texas has three seasons: Hot; Damn, it’s hot; and hotter’n hell. Because it’s true.

I hate it that I have to wait for family to die before I can afford to leave this dump for a civilized state.

[Skittles]

32. yup

all those California folk moving here may find out what's wrong when there's rolling blackouts during triple-degree heat

[electric_blue68]

49. Got a long time friend in the Dallas area so I hear from them

[Catherine Vincent]

28. And I just had a new a/c installed just in time.

Whew!

[DFW]

31. We don't even have AC in our house

We keep thinking about it, and then never get around to it.

[Skittles]

30. very worried about the grid

I could handle sub-zero temperatures for any amount of time but no AC in triple digit heat? I would be suffering immediately.

[LeftInTX]

55. I know!

[ripcord]

41. We are out at an amateur rocket launch this week on a dry lake in the Mojave Desert

It is 106 today, stay in the shade as much as possible and drink plenty of fluids and it isn't that bad.

[wackadoo wabbit]

44. At 117 degrees, the asphalt in parking lots begins to melt

When it reached that temperature in Phoenix about a dozen years ago, my shoes were sticking to the asphalt as I tried to walk across the parking lot.

We're in trouble, and it's too late to do anything at this point. Enjoy the weather now, because it's only going to get worse.

[roamer65]

50. It will be interesting to see what melts at 130-135 deg F.

Tires, plastics would be next I suspect.

[JanMichael]

60. Glasses and contacts?

[electric_blue68]

53. In NYC back in late ?'60 or ?'70s one of our ?95F - ?100F humid days...

The long yellow line on black asphalt on the street on one side of the traffic crossing paths skewed, wrapped ? about 2 ft - 3ft outside it's "boundary".

[dalton99a]

59. Pavement burn is a real concern in summer

Las Vegas University Medical Center acute burn admissions, 2014-2019

[ChazII]

45. It already hit 114 degrees in the valley.

I have put several water bottles in the freezer just in case we lose power. I put them next to the gallon of milk and carton of orange juice.

[electric_blue68]

51. Stay safe everyone! Water is your internal A/C. And get A/C as you can!

[SoonerPride]

52. This is the new normal

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Too hot for humans in June
Deadly in July and august in much of the country

And all over the globe.

This is our reality.

And will only get worse.

[Calculating]

64. Sounds like people need to move North

Or get used to ac being necessary for survival.

[SoonerPride]

66. Canada doesn't want us

And I don’t blame them.

[IcyPeas]

56. charge up all your batteries just in case you lose power

[NCLefty]

65. I'm on the Texas grid. They're calling for 105 tomorrow. Buckle up!