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H2O Man

(73,534 posts)
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 04:10 PM Jun 2022

A Former Fox

“The rebellion on the populist right against the results of the 2020 election was partly a cynical, knowing effort by political operators and their hype men in the media to steal an election or at least get rich trying,” he wrote in a Los Angeles Times op-ed. “But it was also the tragic consequence of the informational malnourishment so badly afflicting the nation.”
-- Chris Stirewalt

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/10/fired-fox-news-editor-chris-stirewalt-to-testify-at-jan-6-riot-committee-hearing.html


As you may remember -- though it seems so long ago -- Stirewalt was the first to call Arizona for Joe Biden. Thus, he was attacked by Trump and the cult, and eventually fired in January by Fox News. Curious timing, eh?

Stirewalt will reportedly be testifying during tomorrow's January 6 Committee hearing. Safe to say that Fox won't be carrying it live. But it should be an outstanding Committee presentation tomorrow morning, focusing on Trump & Co.'s planning to steal the election, and how this led directly to the insurrection on January 6.

I'm looking forward to the hearing, and the discussions here.

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A Former Fox (Original Post) H2O Man Jun 2022 OP
Kick! Hekate Jun 2022 #1
Thanks! H2O Man Jun 2022 #2
I sincerely hope so. I am unlikely to be up in time to hear it live at 7:00 a.m., but my husband has Hekate Jun 2022 #3
I'm confident it will be! H2O Man Jun 2022 #17
I was just wondering if 10am meant Tree Lady Jun 2022 #41
Sadly so. I'm in California, & cable tv programs that run in real time use the East Coast time zone Hekate Jun 2022 #43
Thanks I googled and set alarm Tree Lady Jun 2022 #44
It will put lard -ass 6 ft under ! know's jail is coming & can't handle it! towerbum Jun 2022 #21
I suspect that H2O Man Jun 2022 #23
Yep. Trump himself basically disappeared for about a week underpants Jun 2022 #4
As repulsive as he is, H2O Man Jun 2022 #10
As My Brother Would Say Me. Jun 2022 #5
It should be H2O Man Jun 2022 #11
Indeed Me. Jun 2022 #20
Thanks! I didn't know the back story on Stirewalt. Nittersing Jun 2022 #6
Thank you! H2O Man Jun 2022 #12
"informational malnourishment" Martin Eden Jun 2022 #7
Informed consent PJMcK Jun 2022 #8
You nailed it! H2O Man Jun 2022 #14
Republicans are the real groomers Martin Eden Jun 2022 #26
Right. H2O Man Jun 2022 #13
Fox News Channel Shows: Marcuse Jun 2022 #36
Nice! H2O Man Jun 2022 #45
I will be there for the entire hearing malaise Jun 2022 #9
Thanks! H2O Man Jun 2022 #15
Whom, may I ask, made that affliction worse intentionally? czarjak Jun 2022 #16
I think that H2O Man Jun 2022 #18
From a 'certain' hearing a 'few' years ago....... MyOwnPeace Jun 2022 #19
Right. H2O Man Jun 2022 #24
Watergate llmart Jun 2022 #38
YES, indeed they do!!!!! MyOwnPeace Jun 2022 #42
While we won't see it live here DFW Jun 2022 #22
Definitely. H2O Man Jun 2022 #25
Gordon Gekko ymetca Jun 2022 #27
Right. H2O Man Jun 2022 #28
Sounds like a good book to read cilla4progress Jun 2022 #29
It is a great book. H2O Man Jun 2022 #30
'informational malnourishment ' elleng Jun 2022 #31
It is both horrifying H2O Man Jun 2022 #32
Yes it is, both. elleng Jun 2022 #34
Great quote! H2O Man Jun 2022 #37
Yes, great, sad and true. elleng Jun 2022 #40
One of the great quotes of all time n/t malaise Jun 2022 #52
I don't know why it was hard to accept for people that Biden won Arizona AZProgressive Jun 2022 #33
Thank you elleng Jun 2022 #35
I remember long ago, H2O Man Jun 2022 #39
Did I just hear that he won't be there malaise Jun 2022 #46
Not long now! H2O Man Jun 2022 #47
Hearing will start 30 minutes late malaise Jun 2022 #48
I'm watching the WP live feed ...... H2O Man Jun 2022 #49
K&R ck4829 Jun 2022 #50
Thanks! H2O Man Jun 2022 #51
Here we go n/t malaise Jun 2022 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Jun 2022 #54
An apparently inebriated Rudy Giuliani malaise Jun 2022 #55
Hilarious! H2O Man Jun 2022 #58
Perfect malaise Jun 2022 #60
I love that Rep Zoe Lofgren is calling him malaise Jun 2022 #56
She is great! H2O Man Jun 2022 #59
Huge dumps malaise Jun 2022 #61
This is intense! H2O Man Jun 2022 #62
They're tearing him a new one on CNN malaise Jun 2022 #63
My cousin said that H2O Man Jun 2022 #64
Don't have Fox by choice malaise Jun 2022 #65
I think it should H2O Man Jun 2022 #66
LOL malaise Jun 2022 #67
Here comes a Former Fox malaise Jun 2022 #57

Hekate

(90,642 posts)
3. I sincerely hope so. I am unlikely to be up in time to hear it live at 7:00 a.m., but my husband has
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 04:19 PM
Jun 2022

… already set the DVR for both the hearing and for Rachel’s show at 6:00 p.m. We’re expecting an overnight guest, and that will skew the schedule a bit.

I hope the aftermath of tomorrow’s hearing will be popcorn-worthy.

H2O Man

(73,534 posts)
17. I'm confident it will be!
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 05:32 PM
Jun 2022

I'm enjoying the media reports on what the Committee is reporting, too.

Hekate

(90,642 posts)
43. Sadly so. I'm in California, & cable tv programs that run in real time use the East Coast time zone
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 10:02 PM
Jun 2022

Of course there are some advantages to this — I will never be tempted to watch Morning Joe and Mika Mouse because when they are on I am fast asleep. When I want to watch Rachel Maddow, she comes on at a convenient 6:00 pm in my time zone.

Tree Lady

(11,448 posts)
44. Thanks I googled and set alarm
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 10:19 PM
Jun 2022

I want to see it live. Reminds me of my dad and watching watergate as a teenager with him. We were close and would talk politics together. He died in 2000.

underpants

(182,763 posts)
4. Yep. Trump himself basically disappeared for about a week
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 04:38 PM
Jun 2022

I’ve read that he was screaming at everyone. Couldn’t be HIS fault.

They all knew he’d lost. He saw people cashing in on it and was like HELL NO nobody makes money off my name with these rubes without ME getting a cut.

H2O Man

(73,534 posts)
10. As repulsive as he is,
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 05:24 PM
Jun 2022

he has got to be way, way worse during and after each hearing. Not that any decent person would opt to be around him to begin with.

H2O Man

(73,534 posts)
11. It should be
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 05:26 PM
Jun 2022

an outstanding hearing. I had high hopes for the Committee, and they have gone higher than I hoped for.

H2O Man

(73,534 posts)
12. Thank you!
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 05:27 PM
Jun 2022

There must be something in the Fox contracts that allows them to fire people who tell the truth.

Martin Eden

(12,863 posts)
7. "informational malnourishment"
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 05:06 PM
Jun 2022

They gorge themselves on the misinformation to which they have become addicted, growing fat on garbage while being starved of the nutrients necessary for a democracy which depends on the informed consent of the governed.

PJMcK

(22,031 posts)
8. Informed consent
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 05:12 PM
Jun 2022

This is why we have public education. If people are ignorant they cannot make informed judgments about the country and our politicians.

That’s one big reason Republicans want to damage our schools.

Martin Eden

(12,863 posts)
26. Republicans are the real groomers
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 06:28 PM
Jun 2022

They want to keep children ignorant because their grip on power depends on ignorance.

And bigotry.

And hatred.

H2O Man

(73,534 posts)
13. Right.
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 05:28 PM
Jun 2022

I've seen a couple attacks on the Committee, especially aimed at Cheney. True to form, they are all bullshit and lies.

H2O Man

(73,534 posts)
18. I think that
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 05:34 PM
Jun 2022

one of the most interesting things will be finding out what other republicans begged for pardons. I don't expect we will find out tomorrow -- likely a later hearing -- but that is such an important issue.

MyOwnPeace

(16,925 posts)
19. From a 'certain' hearing a 'few' years ago.......
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 05:42 PM
Jun 2022
"...let him twist slowly, slowly in the wind."

For you 'kids' out there (yeah, it was a long, long time ago - Watergate!):

"More chilling was Ehrlichman’s advice to Dean about L. Patrick Gray III, whose nomination as director of the FBI was stalled because members of the Senate Judiciary Committee weren’t getting satisfactory answers from him to their questions about Watergate. “Well, I think we ought to let him hang there,” Ehrlichman told Dean. “Let him twist slowly, twist slowly in the wind.” (Gray twisted for more than a month before his nomination was withdrawn.)"

https://dictionaryblog.cambridge.org/2013/01/28/words-of-watergate-part-2/

llmart

(15,536 posts)
38. Watergate
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 08:11 PM
Jun 2022

CBS did a piece on CBS Sunday Morning about Watergate. Interesting piece. I can't offhand remember the guy they interviewed but at the end the interviewer asked the guy what's different these days between the Jan. 6 insurrection and Watergate. He said "Fox News and today's Republicans put party over country."

MyOwnPeace

(16,925 posts)
42. YES, indeed they do!!!!!
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 09:49 PM
Jun 2022

It was a group of Republican Congressmen that went into Nixon's office and told him: "Either you resign or we're going to impeach."
Seriously, name ONE RepubliQan who would have the b*lls to do that to IQ45?

DFW

(54,341 posts)
22. While we won't see it live here
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 05:58 PM
Jun 2022

For a former Fox broadcaster to admit, in sworn testimony on live TV, that he and all Fox broadcasters are given scripts off of which to report their fake news, it would be a beautiful thing for the USA to have permanently etched into its archives.

ymetca

(1,182 posts)
27. Gordon Gekko
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 06:30 PM
Jun 2022

and his Merry Band of Batman Villains, is pretty much how I saw it.

It was all just a shallow "show" for them, and damn the consequences.

A pretentious mockery of all we thought we stood for.

Grifters and miscreants crashing the D.C. "party" for four long years, culminating in the Animal House conclusion on January 6th.

It would be pathetic, were it not for the nightmares we now must endure, trying to forestall more unraveling.

H2O Man

(73,534 posts)
28. Right.
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 06:34 PM
Jun 2022

In his classic 1973 book, "The Anatomy of Human Destructiveness," Erich Fromm wrote about the type os scum that surround a sociopath who comes to political power. That book describes the Trump cult extremely well.

H2O Man

(73,534 posts)
30. It is a great book.
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 06:42 PM
Jun 2022

A few years back, I was talking with my brother about it and Trump. He bought it, and was very impressed. Since then, he has bought every Fromm book he can find.

elleng

(130,864 posts)
34. Yes it is, both.
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 06:59 PM
Jun 2022

You know, of course, about our 'congenital' dislike/horror of knowledge/understanding. . .

“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”

—Isaac Asimov

AZProgressive

(29,322 posts)
33. I don't know why it was hard to accept for people that Biden won Arizona
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 06:56 PM
Jun 2022

I saw it coming because I live in Maricopa County and know how much the state and especially the county has changed over the years.

Even when McCain won the state Obama was popular with a lot of working class folks in the county.

It was the one swing state I was confident in that Biden would win.

H2O Man

(73,534 posts)
39. I remember long ago,
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 08:12 PM
Jun 2022

talking to Rubin about how surprised I was at how stupid some people seemed. He said that those with limited exposure and experience often find very little to think about or compare, and even less to understand. I think that fits a sad amount of people.

malaise

(268,914 posts)
46. Did I just hear that he won't be there
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 09:43 AM
Jun 2022

in person because his wife is in labor? Apparently his statement will be read into the record.

Corrected - not him Bridgegate's Bill Stepien

Response to H2O Man (Reply #51)

malaise

(268,914 posts)
61. Huge dumps
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 11:44 AM
Jun 2022

Seriously the Slobfather is a pathetic lunatic - I know less petulant five year olds.

malaise

(268,914 posts)
63. They're tearing him a new one on CNN
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 12:09 PM
Jun 2022

Whatever else, Trump committed fraud.
They also said he is detached from reality as in insane.
Duh!

malaise

(268,914 posts)
65. Don't have Fox by choice
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 12:28 PM
Jun 2022

I detest Barr but he has destroyed the Slobfather here
This is really good because these are all ReTHUGs

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