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TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 06:34 PM Jun 2022

So now the Supreme Assholes are attacking Miranda? Vega...

hasn't exactly wiped out Miranda, but it's a pretty big punch.

Miranda has been attacked over the years, but even the attackers understood the Constitional prohibition on self incrimination and that police departments were used to it and didn't really want to mess it up.

Until today.

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So now the Supreme Assholes are attacking Miranda? Vega... (Original Post) TreasonousBastard Jun 2022 OP
E V E R Y T H I N G is going...but hey, Hillary gave a speech once. Eliot Rosewater Jun 2022 #1
I remember that speech. But noooo... gldstwmn Jun 2022 #2
'doesn't provide a basis for criminal defendants to bring civil rights suits against police elleng Jun 2022 #3
Yep. While everybody is distracted by yet another trip to the gun control quagmire... malthaussen Jun 2022 #4

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
2. I remember that speech. But noooo...
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 06:37 PM
Jun 2022

Some people just couldn't bring themselves to vote for "that woman." Ridiculous.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
3. 'doesn't provide a basis for criminal defendants to bring civil rights suits against police
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 06:40 PM
Jun 2022

for not providing these warnings against self-incrimination.'

'Because claims under 42 U.S.C. §1983—the civil rights statute at issue in the case—can only be brought when there’s been a “deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured by the Constitution and laws,” merely preventative rules don’t count, Justice Samuel Alito wrote for the court.

malthaussen

(17,193 posts)
4. Yep. While everybody is distracted by yet another trip to the gun control quagmire...
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 06:54 PM
Jun 2022

... the USSC is chipping away at the other rights that are arguably more important.

This is not the first attack on Miranda, they ruled awhile back that Miranda must be explicitly evoked or a suspect is assumed to have waived his right to remain silent. Used to be the opposite: you had to explicitly waive the right, or were considered protected by it.

-- Mal

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