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Thu Jun 30, 2022, 10:33 AM

SCOTUS just quietly slashed your Sixth Amendment rights

(TheHill) The Supreme Courtís recent assault on our rights has gone far beyond Roe and Dobbs. The Supreme Court quietly issued a 6-3 ruling recently on Shinn v. Martinez Ramirez, siding against two Arizonans on death row who sought to challenge their convictions in federal court after receiving shoddy legal support. The majorityís rationale, which was based on a 1996 federal law, was that state sovereignty and legal expediency must be protected at all costs.

Unfortunately, those costs are clear. The Courtís ruling slashed Americansí constitutional right to effective counsel by eviscerating the life-saving accountability mechanism that allows people to appeal unjust rulings. The six conservative justices have plainly prioritized the legal systemís power to convict and kill over our human right to live.

What is less clear is why, in a nation where folks will literally risk childrenís lives to maintain their Second Amendment rights, Americans seem perfectly happy to hand over their Sixth Amendment rights with hardly a thought. The silence on social media and in our public discourse about this ruling is alarming ó we should be very scared and very, very angry.

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We live in a world where innocent people are prosecuted every day. This ruling erodes protections for any American who might ó at any time ó be perceived guilty of any sort of wrongdoing. Whether it be the person in the midst of a miscarriage who is accused of committing an abortion in a red state, or the person who rented a car to visit family and was accused of stealing it despite a complete lack of evidence. It truly could be any of us at any time. All it takes is running into the wrong cop or prosecutor at the wrong time. And after Dobbs, it might take as little as a bad pregnancy outcome, whatever the cause.

Read More: https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/3541102-scotus-just-quietly-slashed-your-sixth-amendment-rights/

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Reply SCOTUS just quietly slashed your Sixth Amendment rights (Original post)
FM123 Jun 2022 OP
In It to Win It Jun 2022 #1
katmondoo Jun 2022 #2
Thomas Hurt Jun 2022 #3
sarcasmo Jun 2022 #6
AllaN01Bear Jun 2022 #12
calimary Jun 2022 #15
SergeStorms Jun 2022 #26
canuckledragger Jun 2022 #4
ancianita Jun 2022 #7
Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2022 #30
Traildogbob Jun 2022 #5
Farmer-Rick Jun 2022 #8
LoisB Jun 2022 #9
gab13by13 Jun 2022 #10
jaxexpat Jun 2022 #11
TeamProg Jun 2022 #13
Auggie Jun 2022 #14
Caliman73 Jun 2022 #16
at140 Jun 2022 #29
nowforever Jun 2022 #17
ultralite001 Jun 2022 #18
3825-87867 Jun 2022 #19
ShazamIam Jun 2022 #20
dlk Jun 2022 #21
Hortensis Jun 2022 #22
dlk Jun 2022 #25
Hortensis Jul 2022 #33
dlk Jul 2022 #34
In It to Win It Jun 2022 #23
Post removed Jun 2022 #24
Pepsidog Jun 2022 #27
NullTuples Jun 2022 #28
Alice Kramden Jul 2022 #31
llashram Jul 2022 #32

Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2022, 10:39 AM

1. I remember reading this case and this Court is just... -sigh-

disappointing. If there was any case that depletes all the confident you have in courts, it's this one.

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2022, 10:42 AM

2. The Supreme Court is killing us slowly. No need to commit suicide, the court is helping you

with their rulings.

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2022, 10:51 AM

3. These a holes won't be content until we are at parity with the Articles of Confederation.

States rights will be making a comeback, individual liberties pared down so the red states can become proper christofascist theocracies.

I was calling this move the Christian Republic of the US. I think we are going to The Christian Confederate States of America now.

We won't have states secede, the extremists on the SC are going to weaken the federal gov't so that won't be necessary.

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Response to Thomas Hurt (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 30, 2022, 11:04 AM

6. Christian Fascism has arrived.

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Response to Thomas Hurt (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 30, 2022, 12:18 PM

12. ive been saying that for a long time

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Response to Thomas Hurt (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 30, 2022, 12:39 PM

15. That's a GREAT way to describe it, Thomas Hurt!

Excellent summary! WELL-worth remembering.

ďThese a holes won't be content until we are at parity with the Articles of Confederation.
States rights will be making a comeback, individual liberties pared down so the red states can become proper christofascist theocracies.

I was calling this move the Christian Republic of the US. I think we are going to The Christian Confederate States of America now.

We won't have states secede, the extremists on the SC are going to weaken the federal gov't so that won't be necessary.ď

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Response to Thomas Hurt (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 30, 2022, 05:42 PM

26. But those red states will still demand...

a disproportionate amount of the blue states' tax dollars. Socialism is still acceptable when it benefits them.

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2022, 10:52 AM

4. It eliminates a legal out for those that will accused of the SC's newly invented crimes.

They want to make sure there is NO escape, legal or otherwise for those they plan on demonizing and turning into criminals under the new christofacist regime.

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Response to canuckledragger (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 30, 2022, 11:05 AM

7. So this will take away legal recourse to those criminalized at state levels for allegedly breaking

state abortion laws? And they'll sustain their ruling through this clause of the 13th Amendment?

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #7)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 04:55 AM

30. But this ruling perversely lowers the bar

for "duly convicted."

I've been saying for years that Rs are evil, and I've been told to settle down. That it's not that terrible.

The M$M has been helping spread the lie that both parties are the same, or even that Dems are worse.} So, Rs now have massive power & are now doing just what they've always wanted to do. And we are all are royally screwed.





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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2022, 11:00 AM

5. Maranda Rights

Now this. The brown shirts are coming for you. After they take full control, be damn sure they will come to get your precious guns when you realize youíve lost all rights and your votes are as useful as Russian or North Korea votes. You will not be allowed to take away their power with those finally WOKE The FUCK UP militias.

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2022, 11:12 AM

8. The Supremely Religious Court just shoving their religion down our throats

They worship money more than a magical sky daddy. Money was always their favorite god.

So, if you ain't got enough of that magical money that Jesus so loves , you get NO justice. Maybe they'll streamline it and just allow the filthy rich to pay a judge directly for a favorable ruling. Why even bother with a court or jurry?

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2022, 11:52 AM

9. What was that noise wingers were always making about "activist judges"?

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2022, 12:00 PM

10. They are good at projection.

The Pro Life court my ass.

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2022, 12:01 PM

11. I'm anticipating a day when an appellate court's ruling, after review by the USSC, will........

eliminate appellate courts.

The irony is how these people aren't smart enough to appreciate the use of caution about what they wish for.

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2022, 12:22 PM

13. "When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross" n/t

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2022, 12:35 PM

14. Private prisons must be happy

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2022, 12:52 PM

16. I would wager heavily, that MOST Americans do not even know what the 6th is...

The media focuses on the 1st, the 2nd, and at times the 4th and 5th. I would wager that even those Amendments are not that familiar to the average American, let alone the 6th Amendment.

This is a problem of our education system and the focus on celebrity, sports, and sensationalism rather than on the laws, customs and traditions that affect our everyday lives.

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Response to Caliman73 (Reply #16)

Thu Jun 30, 2022, 10:21 PM

29. Great post! nt

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:02 PM

17. What happened to balance of power

It seems the judicial branch is now calling all the shots. When the final arbiter of everything resides with 6 justices who are strict right wingers how can there be any balance. Every decision is based on there own personal views of what they feel is right and moral. I feel like we are hostages to their very conservative moralistic opinions and desires...this is not justice.

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:14 PM

18. Can we just impeach the entire SCOTUS...

and start over???

That is all...

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:16 PM

19. The Perfect Storm for the Federalists

A Congress that can't really act on anything let alone repeal anything the Six Horses Asses do means the Federalists can pretty much make the Supine Court their bitch, not that this court for the most part minds being one. A president who has turncoats in the Democratic Senate and some in the House.

This is almost too good to be true for Republicans or rather 21st Century Stalinists. I'd almost believe it's been scripted.

Could anyone have written this?

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:16 PM

20. Add this one to the Miranda rights attack, sure looks like it is being made easier to lock people up

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:28 PM

21. Our system of "checks and balances" doesn't check the Supreme Court

There is no code of ethics and, essentially, no accountability. We are watching the conservative justices arbitrarily rescinding Constitutional rights and freedoms, not based on the Constitution or precedent, but on personal religious and political whims. This is not how a democracy thrives or even survives.

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Response to dlk (Reply #21)

Thu Jun 30, 2022, 04:31 PM

22. Off top of my head, SCOTUS has no enforcement authority, dependent on

federal, state, local and military governments to enforce.

Congress legislates and can pass new laws or parts of laws to replace or mitigate damage from what SCOTUS rules against. This is a big main one, with this court's power over the electorate highly dependent on Repubs being able to block Democrats' ability to pass these laws.

Congress can make various changes to the court, including impeaching justices for cause. And probably at least 4 have given cause. Also, congress can change the high court's jurisdiction in some ways I've never understood but could probably be targeted to help foil an insidious plot or two.

Congress already created a bunch of courts inferior to SCOTUS, but no doubt could add more.

Congress can investigate SCOTUS.

Congress holds the purse for SCOTUS, as well as the rest of the government. Although the constitution prevents expressing disapproval of their behavior by cutting their compensation, we could refuse to pay for water and power or personnel to clean the bathrooms.

Must be more. Really, the other branches have tools. The big problem is the subversives who discourage people from voting in the Democratic majorities needed to wield them.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #22)

Thu Jun 30, 2022, 05:19 PM

25. It's a tricky situation

And with Republican opposition, it will be very difficult to counter SCOTUS legislating from the bench.

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Response to dlk (Reply #25)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 10:29 AM

33. Absolutely. Meanwhile, the elections right now and into November

will decide the balance of power in congress and the state governments for the next two years. The more power the Democratic Party has, the less the Republicans have.

What the various governmental and private organizations can do to counter and mitigate damage from this SCOTUS is undoubtedly far more than amateurs can guess at, however. All one has to do is click on a newspaper or activist site to read about what some are doing about something.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #33)

Sat Jul 2, 2022, 11:36 AM

34. I hope this is a wake-up call for those who think it can't happen here

Itís happening but together we can turn back this storm slashing burning anything that promotes a more fair and just country.

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Response to dlk (Reply #21)

Thu Jun 30, 2022, 05:12 PM

23. The branch of government that is supposed to check the Supreme Court

went to the store for cigarettes and never came back.

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2022, 07:12 PM

27. So many unqualified lawyers who aren't equipped to handle death penalty cases

due to limited knowledge and/or resources to put up an effective defense. However, if your rich then you can buy all the Justice you can. Terrible blow to our system that prides itself on the idea that better 10 people go free than 1 person be wrongly convicted. This is a plain and simple attack on the poor and vulnerable. Shame on SCOTUS.

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:40 PM

28. They're dismantling any Constitutional Amendment they don't like

Meaning, anything except guns and god. Because you know, textualism.

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 06:53 AM

31. From the article:

"Itís a gruesome conclusion from a court that seems bent on increasing the suffering of the American people."
Too true.

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 10:10 AM

32. what can be done?

Lifetime appointment, no accountability, led by a nazi along with 5 more nazi fascists. What can be done? Outside of expanding the Supreme Court. Legislatively, no remedy except ...what?

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